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i don't love that he made it about his race
Aug 18, 2016, 4:14 PM
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But he was mostly referring to himself. He points out Mariota and Tebow as getting the stereotype "Dual-Threat" term. He knows he's a TRUE dual threat, but he is worried that the term translates to "run-first" with NFL scouts
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Re: i don't love that he made it about his race
Aug 18, 2016, 4:46 PM
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Who made it about race? DW or the reporter? I certainly don't think DW was pushing that to be about race...he simply answered a reporter's leading question.
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they asked him about racial profiling too
Aug 18, 2016, 8:35 PM
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and he said he has never experienced it. He was given the opportunity to make a racial statement and he didn't, because he is a great kid and does the right things in life.
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OK - I read it
Aug 18, 2016, 4:36 PM
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and the entire interview does put it into better context. But, as others have said on other threads, I think he's a bit confused in his logic.
* If it's because someone is a black QB that he thinks people believe he would be a run-first QB (therefore dual threat), I can see that he would want to climb over the stereotype, which may exist in his head or maybe in reality - I'm not sure, but it doesn't in mine.
* If it's because someone is a black athlete who happens to play QB (almost the same as above if the passing skills aren't great), I can understand the use of "dual threat", but it's more likely to be true without great passing skills, but with good running skills. Whether black or white, any such QB (average in both skills) is unlikely to get very far.
* Calling a black QB "dual threat" because he's athletic enough to also run the ball well is not the same as assuming that a QB is black because he's referred to as "dual threat". Though nuanced, those are very different sets of circumstances.
Deshaun is the ultimate dual threat QB - like it or not - but he is not a run-first QB unless it's a called play. I think what he's saying is that some stereotype black athletes who happen to play QB as dual threat and he thinks he's better than that. If so, I agree with him.
Whatever - he's the best QB I've seen in my 72 years on Earth and while what he said could have been said slightly differently and while I wish it hadn't been said - I'm not going to think badly of him for it...... just hope he moves on from it.
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Re: OK - I read it
Aug 18, 2016, 4:43 PM
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You must be white. Smh.
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Re: OK - I read it
Aug 18, 2016, 4:49 PM
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he's not confused at all. typically, fairly or unfairly, that has been the first label that has come to mind. and to deny it is ridiculous. he has no reason to move away from anything. you can say manziel or tebow, but then name 25 black qb's with that label
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Re: OK - I read it
Aug 18, 2016, 5:03 PM
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Yes, there are more black QBs with the label, but I think it's because black QBs are often (more often?) better overall athletes than white QBs. It doesn't mean they are better QBs - and I think that may be at the heart of what Deshaun was saying - it just didn't come out that way. He wants to be known as a great QB (which he is) but if he's trying to change the label to influence his draft prospects - he doesn't need to do it. If he just keeps playing the way he has, he'll redefine the term "complete QB".
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more like athletic Black QB's are encouraged to run by coaches...
Aug 18, 2016, 5:53 PM
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while athletic white QB's aren't encouraged nearly as much by their coaches.
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Not if they have bricks for feet.......***
Aug 18, 2016, 5:56 PM
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I stated "athletic", so "bricks for feet" doesn't fit in that criteria***
Aug 18, 2016, 5:59 PM
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But you didn't attribute those qualities to the white QBs...***
Aug 18, 2016, 6:03 PM
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I also stated "athletic White QB's", learn how to read***
Aug 18, 2016, 7:52 PM
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Nice change - donorship give you that opportunity?***
Aug 18, 2016, 8:20 PM
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Why would anyone worry?***
Aug 18, 2016, 4:39 PM
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exactly!!!
Aug 18, 2016, 4:41 PM
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who cares????????
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Re: Why would anyone worry?***
Aug 18, 2016, 4:48 PM
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The giant herd of very old racially tone-deaf white guys who convene this site are all probably pretty confused about the article right about now.
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i don't think anyone is too worried
Aug 18, 2016, 5:06 PM
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I'm certainly not. But I saw a few comments that were like "oh I'm sure he's still the same guy!" As if to imply this interview even remotely seems arrogant ???
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Ironic: Tebow is only one that actually can't throw it.***
Aug 18, 2016, 4:50 PM
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The kid is wise beyond his years....period. I'm glad
Aug 18, 2016, 5:03 PM
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I will be able to say I saw him play at Clemson. We're witnessing greatest on and off the field.
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Whaddya mean, "you people"??
Aug 18, 2016, 5:46 PM
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kidding...
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Re: For all the people worried about DW4's comments
Aug 18, 2016, 5:55 PM
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All the people complaining the most are clearly just closet-racists making knee-jerk reactions to the headlines. 
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a lot posters on here will just read the headline and regurgitate...
Aug 18, 2016, 5:56 PM
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the vitriol they are indoctrinated with on talk radio
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While some will regurgitate every politically correct line,
Aug 18, 2016, 6:00 PM
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all the while believing that they are intellectually superior..... 
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Re: For all the people worried about DW4's comments
Aug 18, 2016, 8:11 PM
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Ok, so I will admit, when I hear the term Dual Threat, I generally think of a 60% ish passer with great wheels. Dosn't matter black or white. However the spread offense and the style of which the game is now played has allowed more and more DT guys to prosper. Chad Kelly, DT. Marcus Marriotta DT. CAm Newton DT. Mike Vick, DT(well, sorta could pass). Know who I think may have been the greateat Dual Threat QB ever? Steve Young. However, guys like Young and now Watson are really solid passers, with DW4 improving constantly, and would thrive in any offense. Wanna line up in pro set? No problem i believe. Wanna run option? Easy. DW4 is just a total threat.
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Watson is 100% on it. He said nothing wrong.
Aug 19, 2016, 1:57 AM
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Dude is a class act and also nailed it. People are too sensitive.
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