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Oculus Spirit [75673]
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So, ole Mariano Rivera is the first player with 100%
Jan 23, 2019, 8:46 AM
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on their first HOF ballot. The question is, how many crotchety old writers finally died to make this happen.
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CU Medallion [54011]
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Probably after Ken Griffey Jr didn’t get in unanimously...
Jan 23, 2019, 9:10 AM
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Some heads rolled.
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Oculus Spirit [75673]
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So far as 100% goes, I think he hurt himself by hanging on
Jan 23, 2019, 9:16 AM
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too long. His time as a White Sox is what makes me not trust the front office very much.
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All-In [48799]
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Not a baseball fan...
Jan 23, 2019, 9:27 AM
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but this means that Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, etc., were not first ballot hall of famers, but a guy who pitches one inning per game he appears in and basically never has to bat was?
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All-In [48799]
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Sorry, not unanimous***
Jan 23, 2019, 9:27 AM
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Oculus Spirit [75673]
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Exactly, there have always been a few who refused to
Jan 23, 2019, 9:58 AM
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give the vote. I guess they figured it would not matter much. Now I figure they all died.
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CU Medallion [65977]
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Just goes to underscore how the old sportswriters
Jan 23, 2019, 9:42 AM
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were stupid and petty.
I wonder what TheProdigal thinks about it ?
Back when I cared about baseball, he and I had some back and forth on this.
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All-In [26968]
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It doesn't matter...
Jan 23, 2019, 10:08 AM
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Some people just don't care enough to put in a logical ballot. There are hundreds of voters, so you can imagine it's easy to get one knucklehead.
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Lot o points [155633]
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Ruth? Mantle?
Jan 23, 2019, 10:11 AM
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How about Jeff Freaking Blauser?
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Oculus Spirit [82999]
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Not as good as Raffie***
Jan 23, 2019, 11:57 AM
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All-In [26968]
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Blauser never made the ballot.
Jan 23, 2019, 12:25 PM
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Otis Nixon did, thought. Didn't get any votes.
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All-In [26968]
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The first vote, 1936, Babe Ruth was 2nd, to Ty Cobb.
Jan 23, 2019, 10:20 AM
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11 voters left Ruth off their ballot, 4 left off Cobb. The first classwas Cobb, Ruth, Wagner, Mathewson, Johnson. But of the 42 other players who got votes, 35 eventually got into the HOF.
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Did you know, that after that initial class...
Jan 23, 2019, 10:27 AM
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It took 26 years for another player to get inducted in his first year on the ballot? Bob Feller and Jackie Robinson were first-ballot HOFers in 1962, then Ted Williams in 1966, Stan Musial in 1969.
It wasn't until the 1980s that first-ballot HOFers became more common.
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All-In [48078]
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Re: Did you know, that after that initial class...
Jan 23, 2019, 10:32 AM
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Did not know that.
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All-In [48078]
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Re: So, ole Mariano Rivera is the first player with 100%
Jan 23, 2019, 10:03 AM
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Randy Johnson should have been unanimous.
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How many more old guys have to die before we can just
Jan 23, 2019, 10:35 AM
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be done with the MLB completely?
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All-In [48078]
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Re: How many more old guys have to die before we can just
Jan 23, 2019, 11:02 AM
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Do you hate golf as well?
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Rock Defender [53]
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Nope. Nothing more exciting than watching the final
Jan 23, 2019, 11:37 AM
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2-3 pairings on a Sunday.
Pro baseball sucks though.
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All-In [48078]
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Re: Nope. Nothing more exciting than watching the final
Jan 23, 2019, 11:51 AM
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NASCAR?
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Oculus Spirit [82999]
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I don’t think anything had to happen. He was that good.
Jan 23, 2019, 11:49 AM
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Top closer of all-time, so one of the top 15 or 20 players ever.
Still, weird that it was never done before.
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Oculus Spirit [75673]
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Nah, some crusty old guy stopped having a vote one way
Jan 23, 2019, 12:35 PM
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or another. That is not to say that he was not the best at what he did. I think most closers would take his worst 4 years as their best.
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