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All-TigerNet [11639]
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New Ford Bronco.....WANT
Jul 13, 2020, 9:04 PM
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2.3L Ecoboost (270 HP, 310 ft-lbs) w/ 7-speed manual is standard. Optional 2.7L Ecoboost (310 hp, 400 ft-lbs) w/ 10-speed auto optional.
4wd standard.
Depending on trim, up to 35” tires.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a33277335/2021-ford-bronco-specs-revealed/
Looks like Ford hit a homerun, and I expect them to a take bite out of the Jeep market.
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Can't wait to count the Karen's...
Jul 13, 2020, 9:13 PM
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and dooshes in one of those. They gonna have to trade in the Jeep.
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I thought those ####### drove Yukons
Jul 13, 2020, 9:51 PM
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The Karens that transport their one kid to and from soccer (where they're clearly the best player and #### carpooling) drive the Yukon XL's, right?
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They doing it in the fancy 4 door Jeeps now.***
Jul 13, 2020, 9:56 PM
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That's so 10 years ago.***
Jul 14, 2020, 10:46 AM
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CU Medallion [60043]
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Re: New Ford Bronco.....WANT
Jul 13, 2020, 9:14 PM
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Lutz. Sheeple
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Rock Defender [53]
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Can’t wait to hear all the turboqueefs in 10 years when
Jul 13, 2020, 9:20 PM
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they’re squatting all around the upstate.
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########### I missed the debut time.***
Jul 13, 2020, 9:20 PM
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CU Medallion [55768]
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Will it have that famous Ford reliability?***
Jul 13, 2020, 9:23 PM
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Lot o points [181005]
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My Ford has 253K miles on it.
Jul 13, 2020, 9:35 PM
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Yeah cmon!
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...but how much have you spent in repairs that fall outside
Jul 14, 2020, 8:49 AM
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typical maintenance?
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Lot o points [155923]
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You gotta be kidding. Was about to do the deposit
Jul 13, 2020, 9:42 PM
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Then saw 3500 lbs towing capacity. That’s freaking useless.
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lutz***
Jul 13, 2020, 9:43 PM
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Waited all this time and it’s a freaking toy
Jul 13, 2020, 9:44 PM
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Barbie dream machine.
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I’d take a gladiator over the wrangler all day.
Jul 13, 2020, 9:48 PM
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That’s what I’d be comparing the bronco to (as well as a defender). Primarily towing 6-7k pounds of boat.
Defender is 8k pounds and gladiator is 7k + (and they’re about to drop the 6.4 Hemi in it)
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All-TigerNet [11639]
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The V8 Jeep was likely an EJS concept they didn’t
Jul 13, 2020, 9:58 PM
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Get to use this year because the event was cancelled. They’ve shown V8s in concepts for years.
If they ever drop a Hemi in it for real, it will be a game changer.
Both Bronco motors offer more power than the Jeep V6.
New Defender looks good too, but #### it’s pricey. Plus Land Rover reliability. LOL.
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It will absolutely happen.***
Jul 13, 2020, 9:59 PM
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Is there another SUV with a 6+1 manual?
Jul 13, 2020, 9:54 PM
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I think the Bronco looks awesome. Way cooler than the Defender imo.
Apparently their system’s crapping the bed and nobody’s reservations are going through.
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My Land Rover has 4 on the floor
Jul 13, 2020, 9:56 PM
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And a fifth under the seat
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I never go crazy over New vehicle releases, and I was meh
Jul 13, 2020, 10:35 PM
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On this until I saw I can get it in a manual. I legit did a quick check on the accounts to see if I can swing the $35K. I have three in college lest you assume I'm a UDP.
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Re: New Ford Bronco.....WANT
Jul 13, 2020, 10:29 PM
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probably gonna have issues with that engine
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Re: New Ford Bronco.....WANT
Jul 13, 2020, 10:36 PM
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The 2.7L has less issues than the 5.0L and the 3.5L Ecoboost. Been around since MY2015 (going on 7 years). The smaller 2.3L is decent so far but hasn’t been around as long.
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Re: New Ford Bronco.....WANT
Jul 14, 2020, 12:47 AM
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Yeah, I think it’ll do fine. I thought there would be a 3.5eb option. Maybe later but I love mine in the F150. Fast and tows very well. My diesel buddies are amazed and what mine does when we’re all together pulling jeeps through the mountains. That motor would be a beast in the bronco.
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Just got rid of my 3.5. It was impressive but
Jul 14, 2020, 7:33 AM
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I felt zero drop off driving a friends 2.7. I swear they must underrate that engine.
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Re: Just got rid of my 3.5. It was impressive but
Jul 14, 2020, 7:38 AM
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I put this in another thread, but will drop here too. For several years AEV has been putting Hemi’s into Wranglers. Once they up for, which usually comes with 2.5” lift and 32” tires, you are looking about 75k. They also did this in the Brute but you are over 100k due to all the fab work.
It’s going to happen in the Rubicon and probably the Gladiator Rubicon. Then the Gladiator would be more like the actual Brute.
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No doubt.
Jul 14, 2020, 8:08 AM
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I like the AEV stuff too but have never thought it was worth what they charged. I’m not a Wrangler guy at all (bad past experiences) but a hemi in a Jeep with a manual would be unreal.
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All-TigerNet [11639]
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The 2.7L makes so much torque
Jul 14, 2020, 8:07 AM
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It gets out of the hole faster than the 3.5L but runs out of steam once get really get moving.
It's no really under rated, just has a much broader and flatter torque curve compared to the 3.5L.
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That’s probably what it is. It would be nice
Jul 14, 2020, 8:11 AM
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If they had the manual with the 2.7. My biggest concern is that the 2.7 has the port/direct combination injection and the 2.3 is direct only. No way do I want to be dealing with DI carbon issues on an SUV.
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All-TigerNet [11639]
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True. Will be interesting to see how the 2.3L holds up
Jul 14, 2020, 8:21 AM
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I've got a 2020 Explorer loaner right now with the 2.3L (F-150 is in for the cam phaser TSB). It scoots pretty good with almost zero lag.
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I hate to admit it, but comfort is becoming
Jul 14, 2020, 8:45 AM
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huge with me these days. I loved my AEV Wrangler, but it just got old as heck bouncing around all the time. We were packing on miles on my wife's car and that is when I sold the Wrangler and got the 4Runner. I havent missed the Wrangler at all.
Longer trips, heck even short trips around town are much more enjoyable. This is the reason I like the Defender option better. It definitely rides more like an SUV. The 35's on that Bronco look amazing, but not practical.
Gosh I am getting old.
I even do not like the ride of the Raptor. They have the 34's and it I am not impressed with that ride either.
I am just getting old. I need to just realize these things. 
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Lot o points [155923]
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Also, follow-up on towing...
Jul 14, 2020, 8:21 AM
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Looks like they have a tow package option that has “TBD” beside it for tow capacity. I’ll hold out hope for now.
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I'd consider one of these if the upcoming 4Runner is a dud.
Jul 14, 2020, 9:12 AM
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As long as the 4Runner stays body-on-frame w/selectable full time 4WD and low range, and the roll-down rear window, I'll prolly stick with it.
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CU Medallion [60043]
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Re: I'd consider one of these if the upcoming 4Runner is a dud.
Jul 14, 2020, 9:14 AM
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That is why I chose the TRD Pro package. I am not doing electronic 4WD shifting, I refuse to have that, I want the actual shifter.
Plus the back window going down is so nice for many reasons.
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Nice. I didn't know the Pro had a manual t-case.
Jul 14, 2020, 9:22 AM
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I wish we still had our 4th Gen 4Runner but having a minivan is really convenient.
Once the kids get a little older the wife will get a Land Cruiser as I'm not holding out much hope for the 6th Gen 4Runner.
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Re: Nice. I didn't know the Pro had a manual t-case.
Jul 14, 2020, 9:36 AM
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SR5 is electronic, even Limited (I think is electronic) TRD has the Manila.
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Re: Thought you got an LR4?***
Jul 14, 2020, 10:23 AM
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My wife has a Discovery.
I have the FJ and LR2. LR2 is being driven by SIL right now. Probably end up selling it to her. I am tired of storage fees for 2 vehicles, boat and 4 wheeler. 2 of which I inherited so no humble brag here.
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speaking of Toyotas, the dope-est SUV among the school
Jul 14, 2020, 9:29 AM
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They should put the V8 back in the 4runner.
Jul 14, 2020, 11:37 AM
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But since Toyota can't even put Apple car play in most of their cars, I'm not holding out any hope.
When the Tundra came out in 2007 it was one of the only trucks with a 6 speed transmission.
Thirteen years later, it still is.
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Looks like the market is reacting with a giant yawn to the
Jul 14, 2020, 11:42 AM
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Supra. Local dealer here had an $8k discount on one in their showroom because (in the words of the salesman) "we can't give the damm thing away".
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Re: Looks like the market is reacting with a giant yawn to the
Jul 14, 2020, 11:43 AM
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they look awesome in person. I am just unsure of the practicality....even if just a play toy/ car show brag.
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They do look cool, but the auto-only factor sucks.
Jul 14, 2020, 11:50 AM
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I recall one big reason they don't have a stick is because they thought it would destroy the market for the 86.
I bet they roll a stick Supra out really fast if they just grow roots on dealer's lots.
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Wasn't it just basically a BMW?
Jul 14, 2020, 11:46 AM
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I'm not sure how big of a market there is for sports cars any more. Personally, I have zero use for one. I have enough trouble with the cops hassling me over other petty, piddly bull chit.
If I was buying something different, I'd want a D90 or even a D110 or something.
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Yep, coupes in general are all but dead, and yet
Jul 14, 2020, 11:47 AM
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they can sell all the stupid BMW X6/X4 and Mercedes GLC "SUV Coupes" they can make.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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Don't you have like 15 year old Subaru or something?
Jul 14, 2020, 11:56 AM
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C'mon man..that thing could look like a Ferrari at the price of Chevy Spark and you ain't buying it anyway.
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CU Medallion [55768]
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APM drives a 2015 Camry, thankya verymush.***
Jul 14, 2020, 3:16 PM
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