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Hearing rumors K'von and Simmons are considering NFL draft
Nov 29, 2018, 6:32 PM
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Supposedly neither guy has decided one way or the other, but both are said to be seriously considering making themselves eligible for the draft. We all know that both guys need to come back from a development standpoint, but if they blow up in the ACC Championship game and playoffs, don't be surprised if you see those guys declare.
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Likely they are both gone.
Nov 29, 2018, 6:35 PM
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They both have plenty of playing time under their belts. Not sure what good another year would do for them from an NFL standpoint.
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Van Smith ?
Nov 29, 2018, 6:40 PM
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They'll be Undrafted. But it's par for the course. every year you have 1 or 2 try it because of bad advice from those around them. If they've graduated, more Power to them.
Wallace was benched in his last game for performance and Simmons didn't have a good night.
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Muse is 6-2 225 with excellent speed. A lot of people
Nov 29, 2018, 6:48 PM
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on defense played badly against the Gamecocks. Our coaches coached poorly and were obviously confused about the coverage as our linebackers, corners and safeties were often caught looking to the sidelines on big plays in the second half. I was disappointed that Venables threw those guys under the bus this week given how poorly his coaches adjusted to what they were seeing.
Wherever they may be drafted, returning for another year is not likely to significantly improve their physical abilities or their draft stock.
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Re: Muse is 6-2 225 with excellent speed. A lot of people
Nov 29, 2018, 8:12 PM
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Prettt sure that’s not “throwing them under the bus” man, but more like holding them accountable. last time I check, coach V does his job prettt well. They on variable that changed was our pass D $hitting the bed in unison. Many times this year they’ve looked to sidelines and didn’t play like that. Players gotta play. I’m not worried. Pretty confident they’ll get it handled.
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Simmons was all over the place- disagree that he had a bad
Nov 30, 2018, 5:30 PM
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night- involved in a ton of plays and comes off the field probably less than anyone. Had a bad play that didn't count because of a penalty where he was't in position when the ball was snapped. Dabo lit into him for that and TV guys made it sound like he had problems all night. Had like 1 bust that counted late I believe but again- he's playing LB and ended up on very good slot guy one v one- he defended several pass plays very well and kept the edge. Simmons is one of the best athletes on the entire D and is playing a new position this year. Could he use another year- sure- but is he playing Safety or LB in NFL. Some team is going to really want him due to flexibility. Not sure Wallace can improve on his stock though. Our lack of preparation for tempo and formations by the coaches and the alignment and overagressiveness by the 2 safeties + MLB being out was what was wrong in Coot game.
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As long as we win it all, go for it. I just don't want
Nov 29, 2018, 6:44 PM
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a TJ Green and Kearse situation.
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Re: Hearing rumors K'von and Simmons are considering NFL draft
Nov 29, 2018, 6:45 PM
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Someone once tweeted that Les Miles was caught with a co-ed at LSU. He was making it up but it got picked up and reported as fact. It was an interesting couple of days in Batin Rouge,
The moral is that you can wipe your ### with your rumors. 999 times out of 1,000, they are made up. I can’t stand when people report “rumors” because I know the chances of them being bs are extremely high.
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Re: Hearing rumors K'von and Simmons are considering NFL draft
Nov 29, 2018, 6:48 PM
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Its their right, and we know they should come back...just wish they would follow Dorian O
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Re: Hearing rumors K'von and Simmons are considering NFL draft
Nov 29, 2018, 7:29 PM
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They are both great talents but are still too raw to enter the draft. They definitely need at least one more year of coaching to really show out.
Both of them should look someone like TJ Green who was an incredible talent but still needed more time to develop. The NFL isn't interested in developing talent. They want and need a finished product.
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Re: Hearing rumors K'von and Simmons are considering NFL draft
Nov 29, 2018, 8:02 PM
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This is absolutely false. The NFL absolutely cares about developing talent. That's literally the only reason Green went in the second round, because an NFL team thought with his physical gifts they could develop him into a great player.
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Re: Hearing rumors K'von and Simmons are considering NFL draft
Nov 29, 2018, 8:05 PM
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I thought they were sophomores? And not eligible yet.
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Re: Hearing rumors K'von and Simmons are considering NFL draft
Nov 29, 2018, 8:06 PM
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never mind, see that Kvon is a true Junior and Simmons is a redshirt Soph
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K'von would go undrafted. Simmons though is a physical freak
Nov 29, 2018, 8:05 PM
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He could legitimate be 6'4 230 lbs and run in the 4.3s at the combine. Some team will likely gamble on him in the 2nd or 3rd round on height/weight/speed alone like they did TJ Green. He needs more seasoning, but it will probably be a tougher decision for him IMO.
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Re: K'von would go undrafted. Simmons though is a physical freak
Nov 29, 2018, 8:41 PM
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The 4.3s? Lol.
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Re: Ray Ray ran a 4.5 at the combine. Simmons is faster
Nov 30, 2018, 5:14 PM
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I’m not sure why you posted that link?? Are you saying ray ray runs in the 4.3s?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/ray-ray-mccloud?id=32462018-0002-5602-2213-8e72e85e661b
Ray ray ran a 4.53 at the combine. It’s very rare to see anyone run in the 4.3s, especially men that are Simmons size. I’m sure he will run in the 4.5s or 4.6s, which will be a very good time for him.
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Re: Hearing rumors K'von and Simmons are considering NFL draft
Nov 30, 2018, 5:24 PM
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I assume you mean Muse and Wallace, and Muse will not be playing on Sundays. He is basically an undersized outside linebacker with highly questionable coverage skills and limited athleticism.
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Re: Hearing rumors K'von and Simmons are considering NFL draft
Nov 30, 2018, 6:49 PM
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We could really use them back, but if they will go in the first 4 rounds I could see why they would go. I hope they both return though. We need them. Simmons could use another year imo.
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