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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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I'm hearing that 5.7 mil for wall funding has passed...
Dec 21, 2018, 1:47 PM
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in the house and has been submitted for vote in the senate. 50 and Pence will put this on the POTUS' desk.
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Legend [17289]
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5.7 mil for wall funding would get unanimous Democratic
Dec 21, 2018, 1:54 PM
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support but no Republican support.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Yeah, I left out a few zeros.
Dec 21, 2018, 2:17 PM
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I get confused after million go to double digits. I'm handled contracts worth mils in single digits but never been in authority of a job over 7.5 mil.
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Lot o points [155907]
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60 unless they use the nuclear option, and I'm not
Dec 21, 2018, 1:58 PM
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sure Mitch would do that.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Me either but if it doesn't reach the POTUS desk he will...
Dec 21, 2018, 2:18 PM
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surely claim it's congress' fault for the shutdown.
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Re: I'm hearing that 5.7 mil for wall funding has passed...
Dec 21, 2018, 2:09 PM
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You need 60 votes to pass in the Senate, unless they kill the filibuster. McConnell has already said he isn’t doing that.
Didn’t you once say I was dumber than a mollusk?
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Lot o points [155907]
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You might not be dumber than a mollusk,
Dec 21, 2018, 2:18 PM
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but you have no problem posting the exact same thing someone else already did.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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I must interject even though it appears to be some form...
Dec 21, 2018, 2:22 PM
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of intercession. To date no scientific evidence indicates that live mollusk can read.
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Heisman Winner [137932]
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You ARE dumber than a mollusk, aren't you?
Dec 21, 2018, 2:25 PM
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SCIENCE.
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Lot o points [155907]
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I like mollusks and cartilaginous fish,
Dec 21, 2018, 2:27 PM
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no bones about it.
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Heisman Winner [137932]
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I definitely have a bone to pick with salmon, though.***
Dec 21, 2018, 2:28 PM
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CU Medallion [54758]
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I'd like to respectfully put an end to this before it goes
Dec 21, 2018, 2:31 PM
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much further.
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Lot o points [155907]
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So you just want us to clam up?***
Dec 21, 2018, 2:32 PM
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Re: If you think a politician wouldn't lie you might be...
Dec 21, 2018, 3:13 PM
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McConnell has no reason to change the rules in this instance. He has no leverage at this point with the new Congress being seated in a couple of weeks. He also knows that the wall is incredibly unpopular.
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Lot o points [155907]
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No leverage?
Dec 21, 2018, 3:58 PM
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That makes no sense. He has leverage galore with the new Dem majority House coming in next session that will certainly never produce a similar bill for the Senate to approve.
He's not losing leverage in the Senate....if anything his position will be fortified there starting with the next session.
It has nothing to do with leverage. He has the most leverage at this moment that he's going to have for the foreseeable future.
What he doesn't have is the spine required to push through something that will pisss off the big money donors who thrive on the backs of cheap labor.
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Even given that the wall is the right thing to do...
Dec 21, 2018, 4:27 PM
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Eliminating the filibuster is the wrong way to do it. That rule is there for an excellent reason. They should put the filibuster back on for all the things they've eliminated it for (like confirmations).
It takes a lot more "spine" (courage) to work within the framework of the rules and get something done together with people who disagree on things.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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The dems eliminated the filibuster for Obama's spending...
Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 PM
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sprees. If the pubs reinstate the guideline do you honestly believe the dems won't do it again when it's expedient for their causes?
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Re: The dems eliminated the filibuster for Obama's spending...
Dec 21, 2018, 6:58 PM
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It's quite possible that I've forgotten something, but when did the Dems or GOP ever eliminate the filibuster for anything other than confirmations? I know that it's been discussed by both parties over the years, but I didn't think it had ever actually been done.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Maybe I'm wrong.
Dec 21, 2018, 8:12 PM
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I though the dems did it for budget issues.
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Orange Blooded [4747]
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Re: Maybe I'm wrong.
Dec 22, 2018, 10:11 AM
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The Democrats only eliminated the filibuster for federal judicial appointments, excepting Supreme Court nominees. When Trump took office, McConnell killed the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees.
The legislative filibuster hasn’t changed since the ‘70s. There is a special rule regarding reconciliation, where a simple majority will allow a bill to pass the Senate, but that doesn’t apply to this bill.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Thank you.
Dec 22, 2018, 11:17 AM
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That's good to know and I believe Mitch is going along with tradition.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Republican leadership is notorious for caving on shutdowns.
Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 PM
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If Trump is ready to shut it down the pubs may cave to his demands being they are of the same party and not wanting to side with dems against a sitting pub POTUS.
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Re: I'm hearing that 5.7 mil for wall funding has passed...
Dec 21, 2018, 7:14 PM
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I support that.
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