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Let's get real about IRS.
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Let's get real about IRS.


May 15, 2013, 10:58 AM

If the name of a group is:

It's Unconstitutional to Pay Federal Taxes to Support this Socialist Mutt's Spending Programs
It's common sense they will face more scrutiny if the IRS feels like their whole existence is based not paying them what they're legally supposed to.

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That's one. There were about 75, and the great majority


May 15, 2013, 11:00 AM

didn't have names like that.

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"Every man is my superior, in that I may learn something from him."


GET REAL!!


May 15, 2013, 11:02 AM

Drill down to one.

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Welcome back!***


May 15, 2013, 6:39 PM



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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
- Jonathan Swift


How about NAAWP?***


May 15, 2013, 11:00 AM



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You got that straight! We need one of those and a


May 15, 2013, 11:03 AM

White Miss America and a White Coaches Associatin and a Whtie Congressional Caucus...

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You banged that out like you were angry.


May 15, 2013, 11:09 AM

I know you were. White guilt is heavy baggage.

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I was laughing. "You got that straight" is a Cosmo


May 15, 2013, 2:20 PM

Kramerism.

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Want one? Start one.***


May 15, 2013, 11:16 AM [ in reply to How about NAAWP?*** ]



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Just knocking the scab off of joe's


May 15, 2013, 11:39 AM

white guilt wound.

Don't want one nor, need one....yet.

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NMBLA?***


May 15, 2013, 2:32 PM [ in reply to How about NAAWP?*** ]



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All of the groups had names like this?


May 15, 2013, 11:01 AM

Interesting

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That's how you defend it if you're on the Administration's


May 15, 2013, 11:07 AM

side.

You set up a false premise, and try to discredit.

i.e. Was it because of a protest (No) or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they’d go kill some Americans? (No) What difference, at this point, does it make?

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GO TIGERS!!


So if I have the same anti-tax agenda, but I name


May 15, 2013, 11:01 AM

the organization Unicorns for Hope, I'm good, right?

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On My Knees for OBAMA is the name of my organization


May 15, 2013, 11:03 AM

Haven't paid taxes in years

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On My Knees for Clinton had a completely different


May 15, 2013, 11:09 AM

mission statement.

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FAT TAX NOW!


Re: On My Knees for OBAMA is the name of my organization


May 15, 2013, 2:34 PM [ in reply to On My Knees for OBAMA is the name of my organization ]

Do you see Tboi and Bomb at the meetings?

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Yep, too slick for the IRS.***


May 15, 2013, 11:04 AM [ in reply to So if I have the same anti-tax agenda, but I name ]



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i love that people are actually trying to defend this. too


May 15, 2013, 11:08 AM

funny

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Are you surprised.


May 15, 2013, 11:11 AM

There are seemingly a lot of people who would defend the President if he kicked in their door and had sex with their wive while they watched.

It's mindboggling.

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GO TIGERS!!


Go on...***


May 15, 2013, 11:11 AM



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Haha***


May 15, 2013, 11:13 AM



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GO TIGERS!!


Re: i love that people are actually trying to defend this. too


May 15, 2013, 1:23 PM [ in reply to i love that people are actually trying to defend this. too ]

Joe prolly thinks the orgs. are racist or anti-muslim. He and Geech are obsessed with the tea party groups. It's sick to see folks defend the indefensible.

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Profiling mooslims = good. Profiling political interest


May 15, 2013, 11:16 AM

groups, not so much. Or somethin'...

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...I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.


good grief.***


May 15, 2013, 11:17 AM



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ditto.***


May 15, 2013, 11:19 AM



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...I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.


ok, i'll play your little game


May 15, 2013, 11:22 AM

mooslims are known for bombing us and say daily they want to wipe us off the earth. Yes we should profile them.

The IRS has no beef with, or shouldn't have, with any tea party group. It's as tax exempt as any lib group. apples to oranges.

But again, I'm amazed at the people defending this. just shows the level libs will go to defend this pos.

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Really not seeing the defense of the IRS action. And I'm


May 15, 2013, 11:36 AM

not surprised that you stereotype all Muslems and have no sense of humor.

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...I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.


I'm assuming they audit all Mexican Restaurants and


May 15, 2013, 11:18 AM [ in reply to Profiling mooslims = good. Profiling political interest ]

the individuals like me waiting in the Home Depot parking lots then?

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Only when the other guys rule the roost. Dems love


May 15, 2013, 11:48 AM

Mexicans. hth.

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...I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.


The IRS profiling any political interest group = bad


May 15, 2013, 11:22 AM [ in reply to Profiling mooslims = good. Profiling political interest ]

Or more accurately the IRS adding extra scrutiny to any particular section of groups which lean a certain direction = bad.

I'm not sure how folks on the other side of the political spectrum can think this is a good thing for a group with the power the IRS yields to do.

I don't care what you're political leanings are, this appears (and I say appears because I can only gather facts from the news) to be an issue worthy of an fair-minded person's attention and scorn.

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That's sorta what I said.


May 15, 2013, 11:47 AM

Just with a little dig at some who see no problem with wiping their ### with our Constitution when it suits themj, but wave it as God's Holy Word at other times.

I really haven't seen anyone suggest that the IRS should have done this. I can't conceive of any argument to defend such an action regardless of one's political leanings.

BTW, I appreciate your thoughtful and considerate style of posting, as well as your quite rational analyses. I might suggest, however, you are quite the exception here. Many of us don't differentiate between the PnR bored or the Lunge. They rose up together, and neither is a place suitable for a serious, thoughtful discussion. Might just be a consideration to keep in mind. ;)

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...I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.


Cool


May 15, 2013, 11:55 AM

I clearly misinterpreted you initial post.

I tend to agree that both political sides have portions which like to ignore parts of the constitution when it's convenient.

I'll take your last paragraph into consideration, and leave you with a simple "#### off you ignorant ####ing commie!"

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lulz.***


May 15, 2013, 12:19 PM



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...I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.


You *are* pretty thoughtful and reasonable.


May 15, 2013, 7:03 PM [ in reply to Cool ]

Ghey.

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"Every man is my superior, in that I may learn something from him."


Hey, that doesn't mean we're gonna be swapping spit


May 16, 2013, 7:50 AM

in the showers.

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...I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.


Sword fight a non starter, too?***


May 16, 2013, 7:51 AM



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"Every man is my superior, in that I may learn something from him."


It's all common sense or being a realist, imo***


May 15, 2013, 2:18 PM [ in reply to Profiling mooslims = good. Profiling political interest ]



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Of which you know nothing about either.***


May 15, 2013, 5:43 PM



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Re: Let's get real about IRS.


May 15, 2013, 11:32 AM

You're sympathizing with the government's motivation, Joe, which is really immaterial in this case.

It's unconstitutional to target a group even if--no, especially if--the group's lawful purpose happens to run contrary to the government's policies.

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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
- Jonathan Swift


Dang it


May 15, 2013, 11:35 AM

You said it much better than I did.

Well done.

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the group's lawful purpose happens to run contrary to the


May 15, 2013, 11:43 AM [ in reply to Re: Let's get real about IRS. ]

government's policies? how so?

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I"d think you'd be the first to agree with that


May 15, 2013, 11:45 AM

If the purpose of these groups is a smaller less intrusive federal government, that does not seem to be the current direction our government is taking.

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the gov doesn't have a policy to grow government


May 15, 2013, 11:51 AM

just politicians in office do. And if he means paying less taxes is their goal, as long as its within the rules, that also is not contrary to policies.

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Re: the group's lawful purpose happens to run contrary to the


May 15, 2013, 11:56 AM [ in reply to the group's lawful purpose happens to run contrary to the ]

I was referring to the "it's unconstitutional to pay taxes" position of Joe's hypothetical group.

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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
- Jonathan Swift


As kind of an aside, the policies of the politicans in


May 15, 2013, 12:17 PM

elected office, are indeed the policies of government.

Not sure many, if any, Executives have exerted any effort to reduce the reach of the Executive Branch...

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...I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.


so when a pub becomes president


May 15, 2013, 12:35 PM

Since lib groups are not in alignment with their policies they should target those groups?

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And where did he say that?***


May 15, 2013, 12:42 PM



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LOL X. You're still one of the funniest guys on da tardnet.***


May 15, 2013, 12:45 PM [ in reply to so when a pub becomes president ]



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...I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.


why thank u ;-) snuff aint gonna like this***


May 15, 2013, 12:48 PM



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xtiger, I think you're missing the point.


May 15, 2013, 1:11 PM [ in reply to so when a pub becomes president ]

If you're not, then I am.

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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
- Jonathan Swift


Completely agree, Snuffy.***


May 15, 2013, 1:10 PM [ in reply to As kind of an aside, the policies of the politicans in ]



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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: like a man, who hath thought of a good repartee when the discourse is changed, or the company parted; or like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.
- Jonathan Swift


I agree with that statement. I would caution that there are


May 16, 2013, 7:57 AM [ in reply to As kind of an aside, the policies of the politicans in ]

agencies, like the State Department, which both predate and live beyond elected administrations, and they have their own way of doing business. They are frequently the vexing burr under the saddle of Presidents and Congress. I get the mental image of the Vogons and their forms and intractable organizational charts from "The Hitchhiker's Guide" books.

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"Every man is my superior, in that I may learn something from him."


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