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I refuse to support someone getting a DUI

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 4:51 PM
 

but if Police Departments were really interested in keeping drunks off the road and keeping streets completely safe, they would set up free, consequence free, breathalyzer tests outside of bars with Cab companies on standby instead of staking out next to red lights waiting for someone to mess up. If it keeps a drunk from driving 100 more feet until he is arrested, then it could save a life.

But that doesn't make departments any money.

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 4:53 PM
 



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Re: I refuse to support someone getting a DUI

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 4:57 PM
 

yes, and the utility companies would give us all free electricity and you cood order ice cream in the mail.

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I'm not sure that arresting citizens is how I want my

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 4:59 PM
 

police departments to make money. DUI arrests should be about saving lives, not a stupidity tax and a way to make lawyers money.


But if you wanna send me ice cream, TMail me and I'll be glad to send you my address ;)

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Re: I'm not sure that arresting citizens is how I want my


Posted: Jun 24, 2015 5:03 PM
 

if you pay the high property tax to the county, dem police people police your neighborhood.

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Re: I'm not sure that arresting citizens is how I want my

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 5:06 PM
 

I rent, wouldn't know anything about non vehicle property taxes. I don't drink and drive nor had many negative interactions with police as a law abiding nerdy white dude. I'm just a man thats lost someone to a drunk driver and would rather them have been dissuaded exiting a bar than arrested after the crash.

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Re: I'm not sure that arresting citizens is how I want my


Posted: Jun 24, 2015 5:12 PM
 

when I attended, the nice police officer would follow us home to make sure we got home safe. times have changed.

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Re: I'm not sure that arresting citizens is how I want my

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 10:04 PM
 

It is actually the responsibility of the alcohol license holder (bar) to make sure its patrons are not served to intoxication.


Safe to say that the DUI lawyers around Clemson do not

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 4:57 PM
 

support this plan...ca$h cow

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Lawyers would be outraged.***

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 4:57 PM
 



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Re: Lawyers would be outraged.***


Posted: Jun 24, 2015 10:30 PM
 

Typically people that get dui's ain't gonna listen to no machine


I blame the engineers

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 4:59 PM
 

for not inventing teleporters yet.

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I was most impressed with the cop seeing the driver's glazed

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 5:11 PM
 

vacant stare while in his moving Audio. Crazy good


Re: I was most impressed with the cop seeing the driver's glazed

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 5:16 PM
 

they're always on the look out for something glazed.



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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 5:23 PM
 




Probably on the side of the road with


Posted: Jun 24, 2015 6:28 PM
 

the big spotlight shining out from the cop car.....those are always fun and blinding to ride by. Thanks officer.


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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 6:17 PM
 

John,you sure have changed since you helped start the uncivil war.

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 7:11 PM
 




Are we throwing stones at cops?***


Posted: Jun 24, 2015 8:47 PM
 



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probably not a good idea


Posted: Jun 25, 2015 6:06 AM
 

if you are black they will shoot you and if you are white they will arrest you

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Re: probably not a good idea


Posted: Jun 25, 2015 7:18 AM
 

you sound racist. are you racist?


the problem is the consequence


Posted: Jun 24, 2015 9:03 PM
 

Australia had a terrible problem with drunk drivers. They instituted a mandatory 1 year prison sentence for convicted first offenders. Guess what? No more problems with drunk drivers.


Don't you just love fake internet facts?

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 9:21 PM
 

http://www.police.wa.gov.au/Traffic/Drinkdriving/Penalties/tabid/989/Default.aspx

No such thing exists.

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Re: I refuse to support someone getting a DUI

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 10:02 PM
 

I have given a few people "consequence free" breathalizer tests over my years as a police officer. There are several reasons why it is not a good practice in general to do so.
1. The portable units are "field tests" and are not always accurate.
2. The operator of the unit has no way of knowing if the subject is "going up" or "going down."
3. Almost every person who has drunk more than 2 beers will fall within the "less safe" range of BAC.
4. If an officer in essence gives someone permission to drive, the officer assumes liability that the person is indeed safe to drive. The only truly safe BAC level to drive at is 0.00.


The Police

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 10:34 PM
 

Would much rather get their $10,000 grand or so in fines it costs the person leaving the bar than prevent someone from actually driving drunk.

Its a business. They are all about revenue. Period.


No, not really


Posted: Jun 24, 2015 10:42 PM
 

because most of them have had to be on scenes and deal with teeth, hair and eyeballs because some drunk wrapped himself around a tree, light pole, Jennie's minivan, etc.


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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 2:15 AM
 

Well let's break down that $10k shall we. The statute for DUI 1st offense find is $1093.00. Bond typically is a personal recog so no money there. If your car was towed then around 125 to 200 there. The rest of it will be DMV restatement forms and legal fees tp hire a lawyer.

The fact of the matter is people know it's wrong to drink and drive, yet they still do. You want the police to hold their hand and tell them no. I'm guessing most of probably got in trouble for doing something stupid by our parents when we're younger. Well doing something stupid as an adult has repercussions.


They would


Posted: Jun 24, 2015 10:39 PM
 

but most of them are so understaffed they have nowhere near the manpower to do this and do the other duties required of law enforcement.


Or maybe people can just learn to make responsible decisions

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Posted: Jun 24, 2015 11:16 PM
 

There is no excuse for it.

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True enough. However, if the true nature of law enforcement is


Posted: Jun 25, 2015 5:33 AM
 

to, "protect and serve"; and there's an opportunity as the OP suggested (not saying it would or wouldn't work, but for the sake of argument, say that there is A solution); why wouldn't they do everything they could to prevent it from happening in the first place? It's always about the $$$$$$!!!! Lakip certainly seems to have done something that he deserves to be punished for to whatever extent people smarter than myself will decide.

The money isn't in the cure. The real money is in the treatment. Obviously we see where the free will of Lakip and probably 10's of thousands of other college kids (especially a football player, even if he is a kicker) per year gets us.

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