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Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:36 AM
 

http://thegrio.com/2016/09/14/dabo-swinney-mlk-clemson-professor/


Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:37 AM
 




everyone gets their .02¢ in - Good thing they have Swinney

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:43 AM
 

to provide a coattail to ride on

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Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:44 AM
 

People will whine about anything these days. He said absolutely nothing wrong. This is just an attempt by the professor to draw attention to himself.


Riding Coach Swinney's

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:46 AM
 

coattails in an attempt to gain recognition.

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Re: Riding Coach Swinney's

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:47 AM
 

The veery scary thing is that this guy is a professor at Clemson and poisoning our young adults with this diatribe of nonsense!!


I assume he's not a Science, Math, or Engineering professor.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:57 AM
 

The liberal arts profs are jealous of the amount Swinney earns. While they sit in their cushy tenured bubble with no pressure and almost impossible to fire.

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Re: I assume he's not a Science, Math, or Engineering professor.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 12:05 PM
 

He's an assistant professor. He doesn't have tenure yet.

He better be doing some academic research and publishing refereed journal articles, instead of fluff letters - if he wants tenure.

Find out who his department head is and flood him with letters of objection.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 12:46 PM
 

http://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=20008626

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Re: I assume he's not a Science, Math, or Engineering professor.


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 8:37 PM
 

Oh, no! My job is pressure packed and I might get fired! I better stash some of my $4,000,000 from last year! I wish I had a cushy tenure bubble instead!


Re: Riding Coach Swinney's


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 8:35 PM
 

How is this thoughtfully written piece nonsense? You can disagree with the professor all you want, can disagree with motives for publishing this, but nonsense? Are we to assume that you are an MLK scholar and are above countering the factual points and arguments made by the professor?

And are you really surprised that any professor--in any field at any school--would be disheartened by their university spending millions on football instead of their pet research projects?

I'm glad professors like this are at Clemson and you should be, too. Students need their beliefs challenged. Conservative students can have their beliefs honed and their positions sharpened by encounters with liberal professors. And vice versa.

That's how students learn to think.


Honestly, this is just part of the dialogue

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:48 AM
 

I like much of what Dabo said, even if i disagreed with parts of it. I found it well reasoned and didn't have a problem with much of it.

I could've done without the "some folks should go to another country" bit, but I think that's just part of our coach running loose with his thoughts when asked.

But this dialogue we are having in this country is going to contain folks who disagree with him, and it's not any more "whining" for this professor to input his opinion as it is for Dabo to do the same.

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"go to another country" --- I thought that was in reference

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:53 AM
 

to

If you think it's so bad here -- visit another country and then you would see how good it is here.


then he didn't finish the thought and jumped back onto something else


not sure ...

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Perhaps so


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:55 AM
 

If so, then it was again another case of him running loose with his thoughts and it leading him to leave a sentence dangling that unfortunately sounded like much of the Kapernick criticism ("move somewhere else if you think its so bad here").

Again, I don't think Dabo has a hateful bone in his body. I think he is for the most part very well reasoned and his opinion on the issue appears to be measured and logically sound. I just didn't like the "go to another country" sound bit left dangling.

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Gotta remember - Dabo wasn't making a speech, he isn't

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:14 AM
 

running for office -- he isn't acting like an activist or trying to say anything

he was just answering a question

he is just a football coach


his "answer' is just a quick answer --- people making too much out of it


this was a press conference about football


not politics

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Understood


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:25 AM
 

I'm certainly not throwing stones at Dabo for it.

I also am not throwing stones at the professor who disagrees with him.

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Americans are the least traveled nation of people on Earth

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:17 AM
 

short of North Korea and maybe a few third world countries. Certainly we're the least traveled of any developed nation. I think every American should travel to a third world country for a month and then come back and complain about how bad we have it. When you only have yourself as a reference, you lose touch of reality. Much like Plato's allegory of the cave, that is America in far too many ways. We're arguing about illegal immigration, which gender can use bathrooms, and if gay people can marry, and about crime. In many other places people are complaining about not having water, food, clothing, or ANY health care at all. If you see yourself as at the bottom or lower class among the wealthiest on Earth, and you have no other perspective, then you will complain and it will fall on deaf ears to those who have traveled the world who understand and appreciate how GOOD America actually is compared to nearly everywhere else.

And like the professor says (or doesn't), Dabo with his millions complaining is no better than Kapernick and his millions complaining. The difference is Dabo sees, and appreciates the opportunities America has afforded him to make his millions coming from poverty. Kapernick does not see, nor appreciate, the opportunity America has given him to make his millions coming from poverty. Every American needs a foreign perspective to understand what it is to be American, because without travel, you're clueless and just a tool for those trying to gain power. And THAT is what is really making Dabo (and myself) sad about what's happening in America today. You saw it just recently with the NCAA boycotting the players, coaches, schools, and people of North Carolina for making a law that enforces nothing more or less than people have done for hundreds of years the world over, use gender specific bathrooms. In fact, the opposite of the NC law discriminates against the 99% of people who would just assume their 8 year girls not go into restrooms with grown men. Money and power are stifling speech in America because we're not functioning as a republic, but as a nation-state. Let NC have their bathroom laws, let California have their environmental laws, let every state have their own tax laws. Let a racist be racist, let an environmentalist or a communist be what they are. But concentrating power in a single place (Washington) will not work because power concentrated does not placate a large and diverse democracy. Dispersed power does, and dispersed power made America great. It also makes us free and subsequently prosperous.

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Thank you for your post -- great stuff -- Ironic part is USA


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:41 AM
 

is a country of immigrants

People traveled to get here

They moved here to make this great country



I went to an Intl MBA school and can't echo enough about your travel comments. Everyone should travel more.

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Lets get it straight FLTiger87


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:52 AM
 

Americans didn't just "move" here.

They forced, murdered, killed, raped, stole, sold, and bought their way here.

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Re: Lets get it straight FLTiger87

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 2:05 PM
 

The overwhelming majority of immigrants who came here legally in the 19th and 20th century just moved here. They did not rape or murder or enslave anyone in the process. The immigrants who come here legally now are the same and we welcome them!
My ancestors sold themselves into indentured servitude to get here and others from my family history were Irish people enslaved aginst their will.
I must say that I am entirely grateful that no matter how they got here they got here and I am Blessed beyond measure to be an American!


Thanks for that post 1965


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 2:14 PM
 

Born or graduated '65 ????

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Re: Lets get it straight FLTiger87


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 5:10 PM
 

The same things happened and (are still happening) everywhere else in the world...


Slightly flawed statistic

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:50 AM
 

kinda like the one where American's have the fewest people that are multi-lingual. American is a freakin continent with only 2 real border countries. One of them also speaks majority english.

Europeans are considered "traveled" and multi-lingual because they go from France to Germany....the equivalent of going from SC to NC. If our states were countries that spoke different languages we would be the most traveled people in the world.


I speak 5 languages

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:55 AM
 

English

American

Spanglish

Japanese - not very well

and a good bit of PIRATE

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The cultural and social differences between


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 12:21 PM
 

France and Germany (like SC and NC) are about 20 times greater than the cultural differences between Tampa, Florida and Seattle, Washington. Heck, the cultural differences between France and Germany are far greater than the differences between Perth, Australia and Columbia, SC. And the cultural differences between Marbella, Spain and Tangier, Morocco are about as stark as you can get in 10-15 miles. Nude beaches in one place, and women can't show skin in the other.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/02/04/americans.travel.domestically/

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Re: The cultural and social differences between


Posted: Sep 15, 2016 1:09 PM
 

Hey Tiggity I've been to every place you named but Tangiers, had opportunities to go there as well. I got there courtesy of Uncle Sam. You wouldn't be an ex Navy man would you?

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Posted: Sep 15, 2016 1:20 PM
 

Hey Tiggity I've been to every place you named but Tangiers, had opportunities to go there as well. I got there courtesy of Uncle Sam. You wouldn't be an ex Navy man would you?

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This is total BS!


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 12:40 PM
 

One example which completely screws these remarks: China - not only can most Chinese not travel to other countries, but they are prevented from pursuing further education if they do not "test well".

Try Russia! Good lord, were you raised in a bubble? Do you not remember the Berlin Wall? Go to Russia and invite those you meet to come and visit you over here and see what their response is. Do you think the average Russian is allowed to go from the country whenever they please?

Methinks you need to read or get out a bit more.


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this is largely due to the size of our country


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 12:50 PM
 

we have to get on a plane to go to any foreign country unless you live within driving distance of Canada or Mexico and really how different is Canada? In europe you can drive around and get to 5 or more countries. Ride a train across several countries and get cheap flights.


Re: Americans are the least traveled nation of people on Earth


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 12:57 PM
 

I actually agree with lots of your post. But the first comment is very wrong.

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Re: "go to another country" --- I thought that was in reference


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 8:39 PM
 

Or you could visit the Netherlands and see how bad it is here.


Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:57 AM
 

exactly. Same guy would have been on him for not mentioning Dr King if his answer had gone another way.

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Who?

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:45 AM
 

Never heard of him.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:46 AM
 

link to FAX



Chenjerai Kumanyika




https://www.clemson.edu/caah/faculty-staff/facultyBio.html?id=1777

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Nothing more useless than an Arts and Humanities

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:17 AM
 

professor/degree.

I should know, I have a history degree from Clemson.

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rate my professor


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 7:36 PM
 

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1886119

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Re: I haven't either and don't care to ever hear from him

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:03 AM
 

again. Who keeps hiring these idiots?


Same mouth breather who was thrown out of the Trump rally.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:48 AM
 

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2016/02/12/clemson-professor-ejected-trump-rally-wednesday/80271778/


I am nearly positive with a little more investigation we'll find "DR" Kumanyika is a member of some interesting "groups"...

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:53 AM
 



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He's the spear point of the ultra-liberal Clemson faculty.***

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:18 AM
 



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he seems full of hate.***

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Re: Same mouth breather who was thrown out of the Trump rally.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 6:24 PM
 

One word. RACIST. Get rid of his ass.


Re: Same mouth breather who was thrown out of the Trump rally.


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 7:18 PM
 

Another one word: RACIST


Ima just leave this here for GWP

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:49 AM
 

http://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=20008291


Enjoy your crow for breakfast.


What the he!l are you talking about? Why would I be eating

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:58 AM
 

crow for breakfast? Because I asked who was complaining?

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Re: What the he!l are you talking about? Why would I be eating

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:02 AM
 

It's pretty good if you flash fry it in a chicken base and serve it over cheese grits with some tasso gravy.


Re: Ima just leave this here for GWP


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:30 AM
 

This is literally the 7th time in one hour that you've linked back to your own thread. Nothing conservative about that. :)


>http://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=20008291

> Enjoy your crow for breakfast.


He has a right to interpret and express his opinion just

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:50 AM
 

like Dabo. There is no guarantee if you have an opinion everyone will agree or subscribe to it. That's the beauty of America. Freedom of speech no matter how one side or another views it as wrong. Freedom is the key word.

So, great to have you chime in professor but I am more swayed by Dabo's opinion because I too believe in love and unity over hate and confrontation.


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Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:50 AM
 

Everybody has an ***hole and an opinion. This ***hole expressed his opinion. Lulz.

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Good point professor. BTW, how many national networks

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:51 AM
 

showed up the last time you spoke publicly?


Kicked out of a Trump rally in Greenville (link)

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 9:53 AM
 

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2016/02/12/clemson-professor-ejected-trump-rally-wednesday/80271778/

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Re: Kicked out of a Trump rally in Greenville (link)

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:01 AM
 

Basically, someone trying a little too hard to get noticed...

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Re: Kicked out of a Trump rally in Greenville (link)

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:03 AM
 

Can we fire this idiot?

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Re: Kicked out of a Trump rally in Greenville (link)

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:19 AM
 

Yeah, a professor shouldn't be allowed to share his opinion like Dabo did!


I didn't see a bunch of reporters asking this professor

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:36 AM
 

anything at all. Dabo was answering questions during a live press conference.


That act probably earned him tenure.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:18 AM
 

Then again, tenure might not apply to asst. professors/lecturers.

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So are the issues Kap is protesting more valid or less valid

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:05 AM
 

than the greeter at Walmart saying "Happy Holidays" or Starbucks taking baby Jesus off of their cups at Christmas time?


Re: So are the issues Kap is protesting more valid or less valid

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:48 AM
 

Is baby Jesus on their cups the rest of the year? Cause their green symbol with the long hair and crown seems more like middle aged Jesus or maybe Jesus at a Lynard Skynard concert.

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Not if the libtards over at the Gawdhating ACLU have

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:22 AM
 

anything to say about it.


"please spare us the continued the distortion of his legacy"

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:08 AM
 

That's all you need to read. Did he graduate from Clemson?




Racism here, oppression there, racism and oppression

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:09 AM
 

everywhere. Ohhhhhh, what a terrible world. A black man just doesn't have a chance, and it's the white man's fault. White vs. Black, Black vs. White. From John C. Calhoun to Dabo Swinney, it just keeps rollin' along!

Fool.

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Some people are never satisfied no matter how or what you say

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:10 AM
 

This professor seems like one of those type of people. Nothing else to see here. Moving on.


Hey Bitterness 101 is a required coursework

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:18 AM
 

if you're gonna major in Professional Agitation.

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Sounds just as valuable as a women's studies or

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:20 AM
 

African studies degree.

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Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:15 AM
 

This guy is a communications professor , huh ?


I guess someone should try and communicate that he misspelled FOOTBALL in his header .

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I applauded Dabo's words. I also applaud this man's.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:16 AM
 

Dialogue is good. I hope he and Dabo meet and discuss.

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Dabo was answering a question, Professor is for attention

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:24 AM
 

Dabo is in a no win situation. No matter what he says, someone will be offended. This professor is an attention w.hore...plain an simple

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they will always find it.


Some bozo that no one has ever heard of craving attention.***

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Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:36 AM
 

shocking a blm supporter has something racist to say


Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:41 AM
 

While I don't agree totally with what he said, let's make it clear that absolutely nothing he wrote was racist.


But you know he is.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:21 AM
 

It's one of those things, you know it when you see it.

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Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:48 AM
 

almost bet anything that the professor is not being forced to work on that plantation in clemson. surely he could find another fine institute of higher education that is not so racist. preferably over in the motherland. oh wait, they still have slavery there.

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Dear Professor, You're a taxpayer funded bigot.***

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drawing six figures off the backs of the taxpayers.***


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Not quite, but still a chunk. $62,680/year

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:23 AM
 

http://www.thestate.com/news/databases/article14573084.html

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Those are just the base salaries that they are required


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 5:48 PM
 

to report. Most professors make more than just those base salaries.


Earning his paycheck off the backs of hard working


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:21 AM
 

students that's he's probably robbing of a decent education. I can only imagine what his students learn...

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this is why racism still exists.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 10:49 AM
 

some black people get mad as hail bc a white guy says we ought to love and respect our neighbors. black guy basically says no....we need to be confrontational.

That's what I came away with from reading that open letter.

quick glance at his education: studied African American/black studies from Penn State. Nothing wrong with that degree at all and shows he has a background on the subject of MLK however I'm 99.9% positive his professors taught him many far left things concerning MLK that I don't believe is the whole picture of who MLK was. I studied History and took a class on the Civil Rights movement and was taught from a completely conservative view so whatever I say on the subject will be in direct opposition to Dr. Kumanyika. I will only say this, his views are what caused a lot of strife after the "sit ins" and the non-confrontational protests. MLK and a lot of those who followed him started out with good intentions but when loud mouths and hot heads started pushing for more confrontation. It's obvious this guy likes confrontation. From "getting rid of the whiteness in public radio" to getting kicked out of Trump Rally's and being at the forefront of Ferguson (amazing what google can show you about someone). He is a brash and abrasive individual who is the type that keeps racism prevalent in this country.

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Nope

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:07 AM
 

By all means, disagree with the professor. It sounds like you have some well-reasoned thoughts on the subject and well-meaning intelligent folks can disagree.

However, this is NOT "why racism still exists." To suggest that racism only exists because individual members of a group that was systematically oppressed for centuries are now expressing discomfort and disagreement with the current balance of power and opportunity in this country is ludicrous. This issue is entirely more nuanced than that simple-minded sentence would suggest.

Racism exists because some folks (from every race and group) harbor xenophobic views of the "other guys" and allow them to color how they interact with, think about, and treat those groups. Sometimes this is done intentionally, sometimes it is done through a pervasive unrecognized outlook that heaps criticism on the "other guys" while ignoring the faults of your own.

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how about "racism will always exist"

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:22 AM
 

but its up to us in how we respond to the oppression? Racism existed back during the time of Moses in Genesis and the Exodus. It's existed for forever, however its how we respond that really matters. Maybe Dabo is right in that its about loving your neighbor no matter who they are and what they believe? At the same time I can't take someone seriously Dr. Kumanyika about oppression and hate against black people when they have not even tasted the oppression of their forefathers. He did what the Civil Rights movement push for...He got an education from a Prestigious school (Penn St.) and got a profession as a Assistant Professor at a University in the South that started out on a Planation. He can talk all he wants about MLK and the Civil Rights movement because he studied it and knows a lot about it, but he cannot liken himself to those who are truly struggling to break the racial barriers and no I'm not talking about Kaepernick. Those who are striving daily to break those barriers live far and wide. Not just in America. Its the blacks that live in Australia or the people who wear Burkas in France. People are oppressed far and wide but it is up to the common man in how we respond. Dabo responded like a man I respect and admire. In an impromptu sermon if you will his main thought was that we just have to love each other. The world is mired by sin and hate but man we just have to love each other and respect each other. Dr. Kumanyika to me does not represent that. He is pushing the race card and agenda in such a way that it breeds hate and hinders the growth away from racism.


He hit the jackpot with that degree.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:24 AM
 

Because it is literally useless. He has the only possible job (short of a salesman) that degree warrants.

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Professor Kumanyika, 'take MLK's name out of your mouth'?

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:07 AM
 

Really? A man of your education, background, and position. That's your opening?

How much thought did you put into that title of indignation? You disagree with Dabo's characterization of Dr. King's legacy? Fine. Good job pointing that out in the body of your letter. However, your title points to continued division, elitism, and yes, bigotry. I thought we were trying to fix those things. I know the first amendment allows Dabo to utter those words publicly if he so chooses.

In addition to the interpretation of MLK's legacy; there are many other points in Dabo's answer worthy of pursing, reaching common ground, and taking action on. As a professor and ambassador for Clemson University, take a leadership role. Reach out to Coach Swinney, seek common ground, and implement change.

Who knows, great things may happen as a result of your action.

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He has to advertise his classes somehow.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:25 AM
 

What better way to get the attention of angry, uninformed youth than an "open letter" to a prominent member of the Clemson elite.

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There's something in these hills.


Concur. Obvious intentions that differ from the intent of

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:30 AM
 

Dabo's answer.

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Looks like y'all got this covered.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:15 AM
 

Dr. Chenjerai Kumanyika and other academia don't really do anything or contribute to a productive society.

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Re: Looks like y'all got this covered.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:18 AM
 

that is what you get out of it huh.

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Higher rated schools take academics out of the picture.


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 12:43 PM
 

It's the UNC model of higher education.

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Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:17 AM
 

> http://thegrio.com/2016/09/14/dabo-swinney-mlk-clemson
> -professor/

He could learn a few things from Dabo

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So contradiction #1. He b*tches about unpaid players

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:19 AM
 

Then in the same breath criticizes the $55mil football facility that non-football students will never see.
Clearly the man places no value in a four year degree. Based on his cluelessness I'd say that may be true in his case.

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Dabo should not respond to this. This professor has a chip

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:25 AM
 

on his shoulder a mile wide. Anything, yes anything that Dabo could say will be fodder for this guy's appetite. His diatribe is, in itself, tinged with racism.

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Another Jellie Nitpicky Academian Riding Dabo

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:32 AM
 

and poking holes at a well-intended message. Oddly enough the Professor agreed with much of what Dabo said yet chose to be cheeky and focus on where he had issue with Dabo instead of highlighting the positives.

I bet you anything you want Dabo has done more to advance the well-being of athletes and more specifically black athletes than this snarky "Doctor" has ever done.

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Re: Another Jellie Nitpicky Academian Riding Dabo


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:47 AM
 

When the good doctors classes begin to bring in tens of millions of dollars for the university perhaps he can get a raise and better 'facilities'!


No doubt, I wonder if this dipshite professor knows


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 11:52 AM
 

how many ex-Clemson players Dabo has on staff? Better yet, how many he has secretly helped out monetarily. We'll probably never know but think about it, this is the same guy that took a pay cut to pay his assistants more money.

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C'mon man!


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 12:20 PM
 

As a white moderate am I part of the problem. I marched for civil rights in the 60's and helped desegregate eating places, movie theaters, and roller rinks before you were even born professor. Are you suggesting that because I am white, even though I did that, I can't use MLK's name? The fact is, though I agree that many low paying jobs at Clemson are probably underpaid, what does Swinney have to do with that? Does he hire them, or for that matter, does he hire professors(which you say are under represented)? Yes you both work at a school founded by racists, so does virtually every professor at most Southern schools. That is all history. If you want change, talk to the Administration, the Governor, the Legislature, not a football coach.


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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 12:34 PM
 

I think this needs to be re-poasted..



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take this crap to the jounge

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 12:56 PM
 

just kidding

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I like how he uses Dabo's success against him

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 1:06 PM
 

Like Dabo should be socially punished for working his ### off and making it as a head coach after starting with nothing. This guy is the problem in this country.

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Agreed! I stopped caring after I read that part.


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 1:20 PM
 

Dabo had nothing and worked his way to the top. Talking about his money and all of that made him lose all credibility. And don't get me started on the athletes not being paid nonsense. I have a large sum of student loan debt that those athletes don't have to worry about because they are PAID through scholarships.

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this really sets me off

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 1:25 PM
 

student athletes are treated like kings and queens honestly. Especially football players on a nationally elite team


Re: this really sets me off


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 2:31 PM
 

I couldn't agree more. What more do you need? You're going to school for free. Almost anyone would love to have that privilege. Next thing you know they'll have to start building mansions off campus complete with a butler and a private shuttle just because they play a sport. It's getting ridiculous.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 1:52 PM
 



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I would say that process is not all in


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 4:18 PM
 

with Clemson University. He definitely has his own agenda, and is not a Clemson man


*Prof***


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Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 1:16 PM
 

I read the open letter, I also googled his name. This professor is the problem. He is a professor at Clemson University, He is very successful in The United States of America in Couth Carolina and in Clemson in the south. All of these things he says oppresses him yet I am willing to bet that he was given preferential treatment along the way to get to where he is today. He and his ilk will never be satified no matter how much progress is made in our country and our world. He does not want for the races to get along he thrives off of his on racism!!! I think Clemson should do to him what was done to him at the Trump rally back in February of 2016. Tell him he is no longer welcome and to leave!!


Mr. Kumanyika is a former hip-hop rapper who once performed

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 1:17 PM
 

as Hypno, front man for a group called The Spooks.

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1.8 out of 5 on Ratemyprofessor

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 1:24 PM
 

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1886119

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http://shark-tank.com/2014/11/28/socialist-and-racist-hip-ho


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 1:27 PM
 

http://shark-tank.com/2014/11/28/socialist-and-racist-hip-hop-rapping-college-professor-says-capitalism-is-oppressive-video/

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Re: http://shark-tank.com/2014/11/28/socialist-and-racist-hip-ho


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 2:35 PM
 

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/01/29/382437460/challenging-the-whiteness-of-public-radio
http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cows/the-cows/e/the-cows-w-dr-chenjerai-kumanyika-the-cost-of-white-comfort-39750538


Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 1:28 PM
 

There is not a proper time, or way to protest. He cant Protest "how you'd" like", that's not how it works.

That is all the professor is getting at guys.

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Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 2:26 PM
 

Just like all the rest he is mad because someone worked their ### off and got what they wanted in life. He probably got hired to fill some affirmative action quota. You keep coach Swinney's name out your mouth you azzhat!

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 4:12 PM
 

What an asswipe

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One thing for sure. The professor will take every comment


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 4:14 PM
 

on here which is negative toward him, and parrot them as "proof" that Clemson folks are racist. This man has a lot of pent-up hatred toward whites. His life is seems to be defined by perpetual victimization because of the crimes of white people.

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Dear "Professor" Chenjerai Kumanyika...If it is so terribly

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Posted: Sep 14, 2016 4:27 PM
 

oppressive and racist here ...... I'm almost positive that the road you took to get here , goes back to where you came from.

Feel free to exit at any time.

You were hired as a representative of Clemson University. With your actions and apparent agenda and affiliations , you certainly do not seem to stand for what Clemson University does.


I clicked Report Abuse because I don't think this garbage


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 6:09 PM
 

deserves the attention.

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I really wish I hadn't read this racist activist's letter


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 6:20 PM
 

My head wants to explode now. My favorite part was:

"I winced when I heard a reporter ask you, a white man who makes somewhere in the area of $5 million a year from the physical labor and bodily risk of unpaid black athletes, if he would “discipline” them for making a political statement. Given that you and I both work on the former plantation of John C. Calhoun, the historical significance of the question is staggering and troubling."

First of all, the debate about paying college football players is a whole separate, absurd issue. Most of these players are getting to attend for free (and pushed to get a degree from) one of the top universities in the state and the country. This will greatly benefit the large majority of them since, as we see year after year, only a few successfully make it to the NFL, and even those guys' careers are often short-lived.

Second, last time I checked, the team and most other teams are racially diverse (and thankfully so). Should NHL coaches be criticized for making money "off the physical labor and bodily risk" of white Eastern Europeans and Canadians?

I don't know Dabo at all personally, but he seems to be one of the greatest "player coaches" I've seen...for ALL the players. I think their families would agree. I think any insinuation of racism or talk of "plantations" is hilarious.

I happened to see Dabo's statement when I was scanning quickly through The State online. I reluctantly read it because I was sure that he would be painted negatively in that paper. However, IMHO I thought what he said was very neutral. He was asked a question, and he replied and supported the guys' rights but said he thought there were better ways (his opinion).

I think my biggest regret is that we are even giving this guy's mindless rant this much attention on here.


Re: I really wish I hadn't read this racist activist's letter


Posted: Sep 15, 2016 1:37 AM
 

Unlike working on the "plantation" any of them are free to leave at any time.


Looks like someone's needs some attention…..


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 7:21 PM
 

Sir, you should be proud of the fact that we have changed so much that you can work as a respected leader on what was at one time a very different place. Injustice is everywhere, that is true, but seems to me like if it truly concerns you, you are choosing to stay in a very well paid, safe place.


Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 7:27 PM
 

With the way he discusses Clemson, you'd think he'd have a problem drawing a paycheck from them #hypocrite


Re: Clemson professor addresses his concerns with Swinney


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 8:10 PM
 

What a liberal piece of crap


Some people will look far and deep, just so something will


Posted: Sep 14, 2016 8:12 PM
 

offend them!

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Posted: Sep 15, 2016 6:24 AM
 

I finally read what the professor said. It had almost nothing to do with what Dabo said. It was a opportunity for this professor to have a platform. He should write Dabo a personal note thanking him for giving him the opportunity. It was the only way he was going to get an audience that he was not already reaching.

Dabo's position on Kapernick was the original question. He thought it was a distraction to the team. Kapernick is not a very good player and he plays for a coach who thinks scheme ultimately trumps everything else in football, so team chemistry and unity may not matter as much to the 49ers. It matters to Dabo because ilhe believes that is what propels his teams to Championships.

It still amazes me that some folks try to paint Dabo as sme rube. This whole focus on his comments could not have come at a better time. Every amount of energy spent on this takes away time from media members to ask our players about why they are dropping balls and missing open receivers. While people are pontificating about this, Dabo the football coach is working with our receivers in practice to help them get their confidence back so that they can perform at a high level. Sometimes distractions from the team are bad and sometimes they are what is needed.

#Dropped Balls Matter


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