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hey jack, check out the kid @ SMC .423 avg,
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Letterman [295]
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hey jack, check out the kid @ SMC .423 avg,
Apr 22, 2012, 9:14 PM
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15 homers (2 in nation), 13 sb, 4th in rbi's, i think his name is Bruce Caldwell younger brother of former signee Allen.
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Jack just tweeted he will be checking Tnet everyday......
Apr 22, 2012, 9:16 PM
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for suggestions on JUCO players to recruit. 
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Why is he at SMC?***
Apr 22, 2012, 9:26 PM
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Re: Why is he at SMC?***
Apr 22, 2012, 9:30 PM
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The same reason why every other stud is at juco....grades.
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Re I don't know, but probably the best player that Leggett
Apr 22, 2012, 11:19 PM
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has coming, next year, is a the junior college player playing at the jc in Gainesville, Florida.
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Actually...
Apr 22, 2012, 11:21 PM
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the best player is probably Matthew Crownover, the freshman left-handed pitcher from northwest Georgia.
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Re: He is coming off Tommy John surgery,***
Apr 22, 2012, 11:25 PM
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do you think Kennedy (the juco) will play SS next year
Apr 22, 2012, 11:33 PM
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or do you think wilkerson moves over to SS? I'm not real sure what Wilkerson's better position is.
If you had to guess, as of right now, what would your lineup be for next year? I'm going with:
C - Kieboom (i don't think he is hitting well enough to leave early
1B - McGibbon
2B - Wilkerson
SS - Kennedy
3B - Baum (?, but he is in the lineup somewhere. Maybe put dunster here and put baum in LF)
LF - Boulware
CF - Brittle
RF - Slaton
DH - Best hitter remaining
Big question marks are SS, 3B, LF, and RF.
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Re: I hope to heck with have incoming players to sit about
Apr 22, 2012, 11:39 PM
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four of those. If not,we will be no better. Probably worse.
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Re: we have***
Apr 22, 2012, 11:39 PM
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I think Wilkerson moves to shortstop...
Apr 22, 2012, 11:44 PM
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and Jay Baum plays second. Clemson has signed two freshman middle infielders for next year, both of whom are switch-hitters, Kevin Bradley from Pennington, NJ who's dad is the head baseball coach at Princeton and Tyler Krieger from John's Creek, Georgia who goes to Matt Campbell's HS. I think Jackson Campana, the 6'6" 220 pound guy from Providence HS in Charlotte (Richie's HS) will get every opportunity to play third. If Kieboom leaves (and his arm will make him very valuable) then either Garrett Boulware or Matthew Reed, an incoming freshman from VA will get a shot at catcher. Assuming he's back, Thomas Brittle is a lock in center field. The corners could be some of the guys already on the team (Costigan, Attanasio Slaton, or Mike Triller who's redshirting) or some of the freshmen (Andrew Cox from B-HP, Maleek Gibson from Sumter or Steven Duggar from Byrnes).
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I know that...
Apr 22, 2012, 11:34 PM
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but, according to Perfect Game, he was clocked at 94 mph BEFORE the surgery and usually people throw harder after the surgery because they've strengthened their arm during the rehab. He's also 19, so he'll be a draft-eligible sophomore. If it weren't for the surgery, he may not have shown up but it's highly unlikely he'll be drafted.
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Re: If he can reach 95 and is a lefthander, then we are
Apr 22, 2012, 11:41 PM
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probably wasting time.
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Re: Sounds like a Daniel Norris to me.***
Apr 22, 2012, 11:47 PM
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Re:If you don't get them in your uniform, you have lost.
Apr 22, 2012, 11:58 PM
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Jeff Francouer, Daniel Morris is just as bad as coming in second with Dan Mariino. Evaluate the players that you can get. I could have told you that those three were aces but it did not do us one bit of good. FB is different .Nearlly all will come to school if the can get in.
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I understand...
Apr 23, 2012, 12:07 AM
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that if somebody doesn't show up that signing him did no good. I get that. Clemson gained nothing from signing Daniel Norris or Madison Younginer and neither of them got what he said it would take to "buy him away" from Clemson. But you say Clemson needs to sign better players then complain that the ones they sign are too good so it's a waste of time to sign them.
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Re: You better put as much time in on backups as you do
Apr 23, 2012, 12:10 AM
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with the aces. It is kind of like getting a date for the prom. Wish for the best but be a realist.
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Don't need him...
Apr 22, 2012, 9:29 PM
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By my count, Clemson has 17 incoming freshmen and one JUCO transfer. Not really any room for anybody else. And if his brother didn't make to Clemson, what makes you think he will? Plus, JUCO ball isn't anywhere close to the same as D1 baseball.
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where do you get the list of recruits for baseball?
Apr 22, 2012, 9:36 PM
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can you give us the link?
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I've compiled it from a variety of sources...
Apr 22, 2012, 9:58 PM
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you can go to www.perfectgame.org and click on "college commitments" and then type in "Clemson".
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Don't bite my head off, but ...
Apr 23, 2012, 12:57 AM
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... I followed your link instructions.
It only shows 16 guys and one of them is DJ Reader who is coming in on a football scholarship.
So, that is only 15 guys that are baseball scholarships on that list.
Can you tell me who is missing from the list?
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John Mulkey...
Apr 23, 2012, 1:00 AM
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a right-handed hitting outfielder from Emerald HS in Greenwood. At least, when Emerald played B-HP a couple of weeks back, he was listed as a Clemson signee in the newspaper article. It's been reported a couple of other places, but apparently Perfect Game didn't get the message.
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Thanks
Apr 23, 2012, 1:07 AM
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Re: John Mulkey...
Apr 23, 2012, 3:18 PM
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He is going to Clemson. Not sure what type of athletic scholarship he is getting. Also an excellent student as well. Centerfielder, very quick
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Re: Don't need him...
Apr 22, 2012, 9:50 PM
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lol yep def dont need him. Dont need a guy hitting .423 with power.
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What would Clemson do with him...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:02 PM
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with 18 other incoming players and the guys coming back? Do you want to use fall baseball as "tryouts" and cut people like Ray Tanner does?
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Re:That's the problem. Too many coming back***
Apr 22, 2012, 10:36 PM
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Re Yeah we don't need a .400 hitter. We need about 12
Apr 22, 2012, 10:36 PM
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more that cab gut ,225. If we have 17 coming then we urge someone to move on.
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Re: Re can hit about .225***
Apr 22, 2012, 10:40 PM
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So you want to start cutting people...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:50 PM
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that haven't done anything wrong like Ray Tanner does. Let's just sign 20 people and then have "tryouts" to see who makes the team? Is THAT what you want? It won't happen. Jack Leggett has never done business that way and he isn't going to start now.
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Re: Maybe, that is the reason Jack Leggett is not winning
Apr 22, 2012, 10:57 PM
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likeTanner.
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Then I'll take the coach that does the right thing...
Apr 22, 2012, 11:00 PM
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instead of the one that wins at all costs. Go pull for the Gamecocks if you love them so much.
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Re: And you will continue to lose.***
Apr 22, 2012, 11:01 PM
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I'm not winning or losing...
Apr 22, 2012, 11:04 PM
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and it's about doing the right thing. When a coach signs a player, he makes a commitment to that player that is not negotiable. This isn't pro sports where you can release or trade a player at will.
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Re: I'm not winning or losing...***
Apr 22, 2012, 11:06 PM
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Re: These guys are not getting $80k scholarships. None of
Apr 22, 2012, 11:08 PM
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the good ones will stay three years. Heck yes, Tanner holds tryouts but he has not been disciplined for it. Maybe Jack needs to get off his high horse. Hammer me all you want to but I am tired of losing.
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What?...
Apr 22, 2012, 11:18 PM
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"None of the good ones will stay three years"? Huh? Do you really believe what you write? So just because Tanner "has not been disciplined for it" means it's OK? There's a reason Baseball America termed the change in the transfer rule the "Ray Tanner Rule". I guess you don't mind screwing the kids over by running them off and then making them sit out a year when they go to another D1 school. Jack Leggett doesn't do business that way and never has and never will. Even back when Clemson was "winning" he didn't do that. I will hammer you because you deserve it. But I won't call you a nasty name.
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Re: What Jack Legget needs to do is hire some assistants
Apr 22, 2012, 11:37 PM
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who are known in baseball circles who will get off their butts and do a better job of evaluating talent. I think Jack is now scared that he may hire his replacement (That is one sorry boss who gets in that position).
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Baseball Fan always leaves out some key information
Apr 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
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in his anti Ray Tanner posts. That's because Baseball fan is full of baloney when it comes to Ray Tanner.
Ray Tanner is honest, and truthful with every player he signs- and certain players are told that they will have to try out - and he tells their parents that- and their coaches that information. He does it for a select number of guys that would otherwise not get a chance to play at a school like South Carolina.
Only when the player, his parents, and his family understand that - is he willing to have them in the program.
As a result, he recruits extremely well- and has great relationships with high school baseball coaches in South Carolina.
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Re: Don't need him...
Apr 22, 2012, 9:56 PM
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His brother got drafted in the 12th round by KC.
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12th round...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:00 PM
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Not really worth passing up Clemson for that kind of money unless they grossly over-paid him. What good did it do Clemson to sign him? Did he ever help Clemson win a single game?
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Re: 12th round...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:02 PM
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easy there fella...just making a statement that he was drafted.
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Am I supposed to be impressed...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:04 PM
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that he signed with the Royals as a 12th round draft pick?
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Re: Am I supposed to be impressed...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:06 PM
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wow...you are a little tense tonight aren't you?
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Why don't you answer the question...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:18 PM
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instead of talking about me? Try answering ANY of the questions I've asked you.
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Re: Why don't you answer the question...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:22 PM
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Whats to answer. The kid played JUCO ball, signed with Clemson but went pro instead. Could he have helped Clemson win games? Its very possible but we will never know. Geez...did the comments I make offend you or something?
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Did he help Clemson win any games?...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:29 PM
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Does the fact that he was drafted in the 12th round (in other words, not very high) make it OK that he turned down Clemson to sign with the Royals? Am I supposed to want what's best for the kids or what's best for Clemson? Just so you'll know, I don't like it when ANYBODY signs with a college and then uses it as a bargaining chip to get a bigger signing bonus. I think a signed National Letter of Intent should be considered a binding contract in that the player that signs it promises to come to school unless something tragic happens between signing day and the draft that makes it a necessity for the kid to take the money and the school that offers it guarantees him a spot on the roster unless he does something off the field that jeapordizes his enrollment.
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Re: Did he help Clemson win any games?...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:33 PM
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Well...thats the nature of college baseball. Every major college baseball program has had this happen to them, so its common. I'm sure the kid had his reasons.
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Just answer the question...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:36 PM
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Did he help Clemson win any games? A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice. Stop making excuses.
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Re:From the biggest excuse make on the board. "We don't
Apr 22, 2012, 10:39 PM
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have the facilities."
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That isn't an excuse...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:46 PM
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That's the truth. Clemson's player facilities can't BEGIN to compare to some other schools in the area, UNC, Virginia, and South Carolina among them. Yes, the stadium looks nice, but it's the things that fans DON'T see that need attention. Look at how football recruiting improved after construction started on the WestZone project. Facilities matter.
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Re: Tell that to Western Carolina and PC***
Apr 22, 2012, 10:48 PM
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Francis Marion beat SC...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:52 PM
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It happens. That doesn't mean that SC wasted its money building its new stadium. What did the Gamecocks win BEFORE they built their new place? Facilities matter.
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Re: Players matter. And it is just as easy to get to them
Apr 22, 2012, 10:56 PM
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to Clemson as to SC. Coaching staff needs to get off their butts and get them.
Talent has dropped off in the last couple of years and it is not because of facilities.
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You are so clueless.***
Apr 22, 2012, 10:58 PM
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Re Oh well, I defer to your superior intelligence buttwipe.***
Apr 22, 2012, 11:00 PM
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I know a lot more about it than you do...
Apr 22, 2012, 11:01 PM
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and I don't resort to calling people nasty names.
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Re: You are a suckup yes man.***
Apr 22, 2012, 11:03 PM
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More name calling...
Apr 22, 2012, 11:05 PM
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Are you even going to be there on Tuesday? Are you going to support the team or are you just going to sit behind your computer and throw stones at them (and me)?
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Re: I have driven to weekend games several times this year
Apr 22, 2012, 11:10 PM
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and it take me a full 10 or 11 hrs including the game. No I want be there Tuesday.
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baseball fan, where do you sit?
Apr 22, 2012, 11:17 PM
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Just curious...I go to all the games and typically sit in different seats everytime. I like to see the game from different angles and we haven't had any sellouts yet, so I figured I would take advantage of the empty seats. Just thought that we might have crossed paths at some point.
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Above the Clemson dugout.***
Apr 22, 2012, 11:20 PM
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Green seats upper section? or the one row of seats right
Apr 22, 2012, 11:22 PM
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above the dugout?
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I bet you are the guy with the silverish hair and the
Apr 23, 2012, 2:04 AM
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headphones. Me and my girlfriend have always guessed that guy was a T-Netter. haha It's just a guess though. We sit towards the top of the same section. Have not been able to make nearly as many games as we would have liked this year.
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Re: That isn't an excuse...
Apr 22, 2012, 11:26 PM
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That never stopped Cal State, Fresno State, and other schools win National Titles
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Re: That isn't an excuse...
Apr 23, 2012, 8:44 AM
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What was Jacks excuse for not winning Championships before they passed us in facilities?
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Please take two of these...
Apr 22, 2012, 10:42 PM
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Dude you are obsessing over your question. If you read what I wrote two post ago, I told you. I could care less.
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Yo Baseball ...
Apr 22, 2012, 11:12 PM
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Are you asking if a JUCO player who accepted a big bonus check instead of attending Clemson helped Clemson win games? I would hope that answer is self-evident.
And maybe I am misinterpreting, but your prior e-mails seem to state the hypothesis that if big bro went pro instead of attending Clemson that little bro should not be offered the same opportunities?
My perspective is kids have to do what is best for them and their families. Secondly, I would never condone making decisions about a kid's life based on the actions of their big brother or big sister.
I am all in for Clemson recruiting the best talent that can handle our academic standards; I am not all in blackballing talented kids ... seems a bit on the sanctimonious side.
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I'm saying...
Apr 22, 2012, 11:31 PM
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that with, by my count, 17 incoming freshmen and one JUCO transfer, that Clemson doesn't need to sign any more players regardless of what big brother did. And I'm not in favor of signing a bunch of kids and then running off the ones you don't want in December. To me, when a player signs with a college, that commitment is cast in stone on the part of both parties.
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Agree with honoring our commitments ... thanks for
Apr 22, 2012, 11:52 PM
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the clarification. Based on your clear background with our program, are we just too young this year? Has Jack had some misses on the recruiting trail? Are we starting to turn the corner based on recent run or have we been playing bad teams the past 10 days? Do we have a chance to make a run in ACC or NCAA tourneys?
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I don't think age has anything to do with it...
Apr 23, 2012, 12:02 AM
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because there are plenty of players in the lineup that have been around a while. Clemson starts a junior behind the plate, a sophomore at first, sophomore at second, junior at third, senior at short, junior in center and a senior DH. The corner outfield positions have been in flux. Another issue is that Clemson hasn't signed a right-handed hitting outfielder since DJ Mitchell and coach Leggett has played Baum and Boulware out there against lefties even though neither one is actually an outfielder. I think the biggest thing was that the only person that started this season at the same position he ended last season was Spencer Kieboom. Every other position on the field had a new starter. Considering the caliber of teams Clemson played early in the season, trying to win those games while also having people learn new positions on the fly was difficult. I think Clemson's results have improved recently because players have adjusted to their new positions. And Richie Shaffer, like most players, went through a hitting slump for a while although he seems to have come out of it.
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Re: Am I supposed to be impressed...
Apr 23, 2012, 8:43 AM
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He is just a ###### who knows nothing about Baseball and proves it with every post.
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