Replies: 25
| visibility 1
|
CU Guru [1548]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 875
Joined: 9/17/99
|
Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played."
Oct 31, 2018, 10:36 AM
|
|
During a recent ESecPN "College Football Live" episode, Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played" with respect to Alabama being ranked #1 over #2 Clemson. So, I did a little research. Alabama has played 1 current top 25 team (TAMU). The combined record of the teams that Alabama has played is 29-34. Clemson has played 3 current top 25 teams (Syracuse, TAMU, and NC State). The combined records of the teams that Clemson has played is 38-24. As a side note Georgia Southern (who Clemson beat) beat Arkansas St. (who Alabama beat). So, Joey Galloway, who has Alabama played? Do your research Joey, and quit makin' up stuff.
Message was edited by: AeroTiger®
Message was edited by: AeroTiger®
|
|
|
|
All-In [40432]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 10639
Joined: 6/23/17
|
I’d love to take down his Buckeyes again
Oct 31, 2018, 10:38 AM
|
|
but they’re just not playoff material. I guess he’s got to hate on somebody.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [26945]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15915
Joined: 10/13/08
|
Re: Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played."
Oct 31, 2018, 10:40 AM
|
|
Joey didn't do his homework. Here is the opposing teams' played winning %:
Alabama: .446 Clemson: .613 Notre Dame: .508 LSU: .632
Typical E$ecPN talking head.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2340]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 2597
Joined: 9/5/05
|
Re: Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played."
Oct 31, 2018, 10:51 AM
|
|
More importantly than just opponents' winning percentage, Bama has only played two P5 teams with a winning record. We have only played 3, but our GSU win is a quality win as well.
I don't have any problem with Bama being ranked #1 and us #2, but they should try to apply the criteria more objectively. If you're gonna criticize Clemson for SOS then you should equally criticize Bama and ND for their SOS.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6092]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3819
Joined: 7/30/18
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [24336]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15052
Joined: 2/13/15
|
Re: Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played."
Oct 31, 2018, 4:15 PM
[ in reply to Re: Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played." ] |
|
Joey didn't do his homework. Here is the opposing teams' played winning %:
Alabama: .446 Clemson: .613 Notre Dame: .508 LSU: .632
Typical E$ecPN talking head.
That's that 0-3-1-0 state education for you.....
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16205]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 13076
Joined: 11/30/98
|
So why are you stat geniuses not chirping this on Twitter?
Oct 31, 2018, 10:41 AM
|
|
Hammer their FB and Twatter with this. It's good stuff. And, I'm getting sick of the SOS narrative that about the other teams, less LSU.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1548]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 875
Joined: 9/17/99
|
I don't have Twitter, don't plan to start. However...
Oct 31, 2018, 10:51 AM
|
|
you are welcome to post this on Twitter. I looked for a Joey Galloway e-mail address but did not find one.
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16205]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 13076
Joined: 11/30/98
|
I don't do Twatter or FacePlant either....
Oct 31, 2018, 11:19 AM
|
|
Just think of the number of people who have lost their jobs, lost their friends, ruined their careers, made enemies, became a mockery, shunned, embarrassed, destroyed over their posts on social media forums.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [36448]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 18324
Joined: 12/6/13
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16205]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 13076
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Try Western Union....if the lines are down..
Oct 31, 2018, 11:30 AM
|
|
...it's my understanding that the horses are running the 15th of every month.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2329]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1759
Joined: 5/27/14
|
Re: Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played."
Oct 31, 2018, 10:47 AM
|
|
Must give same answer Alabama Homer's give. "We have no control of the schedule. You put them in front of us and we will play and best them"
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6603]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5491
Joined: 9/28/09
|
Danny Ford Said The Same Thing This Week...
Oct 31, 2018, 10:56 AM
|
|
I attended a Danny Ford speech here in Savannah and Coach Ford said that while Alabama and Clemson are probably the 2 best teams in the nation "They haven't played anyone"...He went on to say that every year a team has a game where they can't be great. He said Tua is due for a bad game becaue it is hard for any kid to play at the level he's been playing every week....Coach Ford said that the BC game is the one that has him a little worried...he went in to talking about weather and being a night game on the road is a game the Tigers need to look out for...
Coach Ford talked about a lot of things after he got a few beers in him....LOL.
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [93152]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 95151
Joined: 12/25/09
|
You can take the man out of coaching but you can't...
Oct 31, 2018, 10:58 AM
|
|
take the coaching out of the man.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [35541]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 14328
Joined: 4/7/17
|
TAMU has a 29-34 record?***
Oct 31, 2018, 11:23 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2618]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1869
Joined: 8/13/02
|
Re: Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played."
Oct 31, 2018, 11:33 AM
|
|
Joey has shown a lot of love for Clemson. All of the ESPN talking heads speak out their #### sometimes too fill airtime. Just my 2 cents.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1548]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 875
Joined: 9/17/99
|
Re: Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played."
Oct 31, 2018, 11:46 AM
|
|
I agree that Joey is better that most of the E$ecPN announcers with respect to Clemson, but he did drop the ball on comparing Alabama's played schedule vs. Clemson's played schedule. He insinuated that Clemson has played, to date, an easier schedule than Alabama, and that is simply not true.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [64443]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 88921
Joined: 3/27/01
|
The strength of schedule argument...
Oct 31, 2018, 11:41 AM
|
|
is something they use when its supports their position or agenda.
When the first CFP poll of the year was released yesterday, Clemson had a better SOS rating than Alabama.
Nothing subjective about it. It's just a fact.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4995]
TigerPulse: 59%
Posts: 8298
Joined: 10/8/08
|
Re: Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played."
Oct 31, 2018, 11:57 AM
|
|
I didn't hear this so I don't know the context but he has a point.
LSU and UGA have played each other. Notre Dame and Michigan have played each other. Ohio St. has played Penn St. Florida has played LSU, UGA, and Kentucky. Kentucky played Florida and has UGA coming up. Oklahoma and Texas played each other....
Neither Clemson or Alabama have played a legitimate top 10-15 caliber opponent.
The overall record of our opponents means nothing. Yes we have a few top 25 teams on our resume but let's face it, those were not games where we were showing whether we are a playoff worthy team. It's obvious that we are, but our schedule is not going to help us out.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7399]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15351
Joined: 2/2/01
|
not only wins over T25 teams- currently we have 3 but also
Oct 31, 2018, 12:07 PM
|
|
wins overs .500 + teams which we certainly should have a good # of by season end - more than most. are always important factors to the committee. As are O(reason Bama was placed above us this week) and D efficiency(we are the best) are huge factors not just SOS. Clemson will measure fine against anybody on SOS and will separate itself based on efficiency/eye test etc. just like Bama does.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1548]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 875
Joined: 9/17/99
|
Re: Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played."
Oct 31, 2018, 12:28 PM
[ in reply to Re: Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played." ] |
|
The point is that Joey shouldn't question Clemson's played schedule without questioning Alabama's played schedule when trying to use played schedule as a delineator between Clemson and Alabama.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [29016]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 36091
Joined: 8/28/00
|
That sort of conversation comes into play
Oct 31, 2018, 12:54 PM
[ in reply to Re: Joey Galloway said "but who has Clemson played." ] |
|
When you are trying to rank teams with losses.
But it's a nonsense line to somehow give credit to UGA for having played (and lost to) LSU, or LSU to have played (and lost to) Florida and Florida to have played (and lost to) UGA, and somehow think that makes them all 3 worthy of CFP talk.
At some point playing a solid (and make no mistake our schedule is quite solid) schedule and winning every game has to logically trump 3 teams who all also won some solid games (and lost to each other).
In other words: -->What makes UGA a good win for LSU? Because UGA has played a solid schedule and won against Florida. -->What makes Florida a good win for UGA? Because Florida played a good schedule and won against LSU. -->What makes LSU a good win for Florida? Because LSU has played a solid schedule and won against UGA.
Pretty soon it becomes apparent that what we're really talking about is a presumed "they're good" eye test level assumption as the season carries on, and it become somehow codified into quite a circular argument.
Don't get me wrong, all 3 may be good teams,maybe great teams, but at the end of the day all 3 lost games, and that should matter in a discussion of who gets the chance to play for the title.
We haven't played UCF's schedule, our schedule is solid, and logic goes out the window when you start to argue for other folks being in ahead of us because the played (and lost to) another presumed great team.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4995]
TigerPulse: 59%
Posts: 8298
Joined: 10/8/08
|
Re: That sort of conversation comes into play
Oct 31, 2018, 3:28 PM
|
|
You’re right and you don’t know until the end of the year when we’ve seen more OOC matchups which teams are overrated and who the best teams are. But within the current system you have to give credit to teams for playing other top ranked teams.
The system is completely asinine IMO. Strength of schedule, the eye test, all these arguments are meant to be had at the bar or on lunch break with other fans, not to decide who plays for the national championship.
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [18129]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 22428
Joined: 9/1/99
|
Buuuuuuuut
Oct 31, 2018, 1:06 PM
|
|
eye test
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [17660]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 16578
Joined: 9/1/12
|
If he thinks the ACC and TAMU suck, so be it.
Oct 31, 2018, 1:09 PM
|
|
No hair off my back.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4892]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5277
Joined: 8/24/11
|
He's saying Clemson is on the ROY bus
Oct 31, 2018, 4:17 PM
|
|
nm
|
|
|
|
Replies: 25
| visibility 1
|
|
|