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Interdasting - cashless stadiums
Jun 18, 2019, 3:21 PM
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What says you? __________________________________________________________________________
Planning to root in person for your favorite team? In coming years, if not sooner, you may need to leave cash behind and arm yourself with plastic or a payment app if you want to buy a hot dog or jersey.
Mega events as disparate as the Super Bowl and Wimbledon confirmed they are considering making the move away from currency, and other venues are likely not far behind.
The development underscores a trend seen on a smaller scale in retail America. Already, Mercedes-Benz Stadium, home to the Atlanta Falcons and Atlanta United, went cashless in March, as did the Tampa Bay Rays home, Tropicana Field. And overseas, Tottenham FC’s new London mega-stadium opened cashless in April.
“We will look at it very hard for the 2020 season,” said #### Cass, the Baltimore Ravens president, offering his team is not prepared to do so this season. The advantages, he said, are “the concession lines would be faster, once people get accustomed to it. And I think the more and more technology improves, cashless transactions will get faster.
“It’s inevitable at some point that we will have almost all cashless transactions,” he added. “That’s just the way. I mean, when you go into Starbucks now, not that many people use cash, and when they’re using cash and people are sort of grumbling to themselves, ‘Why is he using cash?’ Right?”
Alex Sommers, 25, speaking last week at a Rays game, agreed. “I can’t believe it took this long to make the move to only credit cards,” he said. “When I heard back in January that the Rays were making a move to only cards I was really excited and I knew it would be a great idea despite some of the pushback people gave it. I very rarely have cash on me, but I have plenty of credit cards and even if the system was still the same I would be paying with credit cards. From my point of view, the world is moving away from cash so the move just makes sense.”
His friend, Zach Quilla, 24, added, “all in all it was a smart business move to help keep lines shorter and let fans get back to their seats sooner to watch more of the Rays kicking butt.”
The move to cashless has critics. In 2017, 6.5 percent of American households were “unbanked,” according to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., meaning they didn’t have checking or savings accounts. Some municipalities, like Philadelphia, even require retail outlets to accept cash.
Chris Peterson, director of financial services and senior fellow at the Consumer Federation of America, whose dry cleaner he griped recently stopped accepting bills and coins, is deeply troubled by the trend. Beyond the unbanked issue, he said the loss of privacy from using electronic payment systems should alarm fans.
“People ought to be able to go to a ballpark, take in a game without having big corporate brother looking over their shoulder,” he said.
“Cash is like a … it’s a basic medium that people understand. And it’s a public payment system, that has some cost advantages for some segments of our economy. So while I get that it may be convenient, and maybe slightly more cost effective for what, Mercedes-Benz Stadium? I don’t know that it’s necessarily a helpful development for many middle- and working-class families.”
Steve Cannon stares forward from his salad in a midtown New York Le Pain Quotidien, and vigorously declared that his stadium answered the “bankless” issue with 10 reverse ATMs that, at no fee, exchanges cash for universal Visa debit cards. Cannon is the CEO of AMB Group, the holding company that owns, among other assets, the Falcons, Atlanta United and Mercedes-Benz Stadium. In the short time since the venue went cashless in March, food and retail sales are up about 15 percent, he said, evidence in his opinion that fans want the change.
A recent convert to vegetarianism, he said by collecting payments data, which is not possible with currency, the teams know if, for example, a particular fan is buying vegan dogs. Then the fan can get a thank you offer for a vegan dog (for the record his venue does sell vegan dogs, though he admits the stadium doesn’t do a brisk business with them).
“We will have a much more nuanced understanding of what your likes are,” he said, arguing the positives of the team collecting payment information.
There is one segment of the Mercedes-Benz Stadium universe Cannon conceded is unhappy: the venue’s bartenders, of which there are as many as 210 during an event. Some are not pleased about losing cash tips, Cannon said, and resigned: “We will manage that attrition and replace them with bartenders who are fine in a cashless environment,” he said.
Next up on the cashless train may be the biggest plum of all, the Super Bowl. Tom Garfinkel, the president and CEO of the Miami Dolphins, which is the host team for the 2020 Super Bowl, wrote in an email, “Doing a lot of research now and contemplating cashless Super Bowl.”
Even tradition-bound grass court spectacle Wimbledon is studying it. “We also have long-term ambitions to work together (with partner American Express) to take the site cashless in line with changing consumer behavior and expectations,” said Alexandra Willis, head of Communications, Content & Digital at the All England Lawn Tennis & Croquet Club, which owns and operates Wimbledon.
And for critics like the Consumer Federation’s Peterson who worry about companies collecting consumers’ data, the news, at least from his perspective, may just get worse. The Falcons’ Cannon said by next year, the team’s app might be the primary purchasing medium in-stadium.
“Our goal in the future is to integrate the purchasing capability into your (team) app so that the phone will be your primary instrument to unlock value within the stadium,” Cannon said. “This year is (about getting) to a steady state in a cashless environment; right, get comfortable we are operationally sound, and the next year the goal would be to add that purchasing capability into your phone. So we will have Apple Pay and kind of a QR code capacity, much like the Starbucks app.
“I will know when you come in,” he concluded, “and what you buy and when.”
https://theathletic.com/1008188/2019/06/18/a-cashless-super-bowl-could-be-coming-soon-what-does-the-growing-trend-for-sports-venues-mean-for-the-fans/
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I like it.
Jun 18, 2019, 3:25 PM
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I mean, who wants to sit next to poors and olds at a ballgame?
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Right!
Jun 18, 2019, 3:30 PM
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People with credit cards are sooooo rich!
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I predice that the new Raiders' stadium
Jun 18, 2019, 3:33 PM
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will not be cashless. Especially if there is a casino in the concourse.
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How will they play dice in the corner without cash?***
Jun 18, 2019, 3:34 PM
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Oculus Spirit [75717]
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That is why it will not be cashless.***
Jun 18, 2019, 3:54 PM
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Re: Interdasting - cashless stadiums
Jun 18, 2019, 3:43 PM
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think they'll ever get to an app based concessions system? I think more folks would buy, even at the high prices if the line/wait was mitigated somehow.
Have a pickup only line at some stands?
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People will spend money using their apps
Jun 18, 2019, 3:46 PM
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just to show off they have an app that lets them spend money
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I don't think it's really wrong to expect them to deliver
Jun 18, 2019, 4:02 PM
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your hot dog and soda as well as give you a BJ for the prices they charge. Or at minimum a good ole fashioned reach around.
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cashless = racist according to my Democrat friends***
Jun 18, 2019, 4:01 PM
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Oculus Spirit [75717]
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So is expecting somebody to have ID.
Jun 18, 2019, 4:10 PM
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However, watching LIVE PD suggest no ID is more about poor folks.
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maybe the Obama phones should come with an ID***
Jun 18, 2019, 4:21 PM
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Oculus Spirit [75717]
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Or folks should stop being poor AND having warrants.***
Jun 18, 2019, 4:28 PM
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I'd say so. Wife of is in Baltimore as we speak.
Jun 18, 2019, 4:02 PM
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She took out $200 in cash from the ATM before leaving for spending money. I'm like? Only time she needs cash is to pay the baby sitter. I use it to pay illegals who do work around the house. Otherwise neither of us use cash for anything.
When we went to the Grand Canyon, Phoenix, and Vegas none of us took extra cash.
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I was in Boston in April, You couldnt eat without cash in
Jun 18, 2019, 4:31 PM
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the Italian district, especially breakfast. I think the week I was there, Local Seafood was the only lunch place I ate at that took cards.
EVERYWHERE else was cash only.
of course I didnt have cash on me and I usually just pay with company card.
I actually had to do a reimbursement expense report.
I hate Boston now.
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I went to Bhastun back when Dabo was interim coach
Jun 18, 2019, 4:34 PM
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2008? Anyway, used my debit card plenty.
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i never use cash
Jun 18, 2019, 4:07 PM
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it seems so 2000s
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your middleclass cisgendered white male privilege is showing***
Jun 18, 2019, 4:09 PM
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da poors got their ebt cards too***
Jun 18, 2019, 4:13 PM
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i only use cash for the babysitter, and that's only because
Jun 18, 2019, 4:56 PM
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she won't let me put my card in her slot
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My normally mild mannered FiL was somewhere recently
Jun 18, 2019, 4:08 PM
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that didn’t take cash and he got very agitated waving the $20 bill in the clerk’s face saying it says legal tender right here on the bill. The manager threatened to call the cops and my FiL said if you don’t I will and might call the Treasury Dept while I’m at it. I wasn’t there but apparently BiL’s girlfriend was with them and in addition to being mortified, she pulled out a credit card and paid while BiL got FiL out the door.
What amazes me are the number of cash only food joints we still have around here.
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I side with FIL. I actaully want somebody to call the
Jun 18, 2019, 4:13 PM
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cops on me some day when I try to pay with a $2.00. I'll get my pound of flesh out of that.
As for cash only food joints, I was at Pita House Saturday and came to the conclusion that if the they took cash, they'd be so overrun by folks it would not be worth it.
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Sounds like one of my close RH pals.
Jun 18, 2019, 4:39 PM
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Most old school guy you ever met in your life...self-employed and pays everything in cash. Won't text, has no e-mail or computer, voice mail on his cell phone (NOT smart phone, CELL phone) is not activated. He stills drives to where he does business to pay cash, be it phone, cable, or electric bill. He nearly went off the first time he tried to pay in cash at AT&T and they were going to charge him an extra few bucks to take cash. He's my age, but probably should have been born in time to fight in WWII.
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I think every employee and half the regulars at
Jun 18, 2019, 6:59 PM
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Lake Bowen Fish Camp are packin’ heat.
I know the little gal that usually waits on us carries a nice 40 cal.
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This is nothing new.
Jun 18, 2019, 5:07 PM
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Sadly, all stadiums have been Cashless since 2003.
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POTMFD ^^^***
Jun 18, 2019, 7:00 PM
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Re: Interdasting - cashless stadiums
Jun 18, 2019, 5:19 PM
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I don't like to keep enough cash on me to pay for a brew and a hot dog at Mercedes-Benz ripo... er, I mean stadium.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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This has something to do with dispensaries.
Jun 18, 2019, 11:03 PM
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I don't know how, but it does. They are a cash only business, and can't deposit their money in a bank.
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