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Topic: I’m sorry not to trying to beat a deadhouse but
Replies: 14   Last Post: Jun 15, 2020 10:38 AM by: FutureDoc
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I’m sorry not to trying to beat a deadhouse but


Posted: Jun 14, 2020 10:24 PM
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What is the difference between Calhoun and Clemson? I can understand and actually agree with the Tillman rename.

It was Calhoun’s land and he was VP of the USA from a time way before Tillman.

I hate to say it but this will definitely be used against us in recruiting. I pray they never change the name Clemson but seriously what was so much worse about Calhoun?


Clemson was a Yankee from Philly.


Posted: Jun 14, 2020 10:28 PM
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Slavery is o.k. when Yankees do it, apparently.

You know, people like Grant and Lincoln.


This exposes philosophical inconsistency...


Posted: Jun 14, 2020 10:30 PM
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the argument has been made that Clemson has evolved past being a name, and is now a brand.


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Posted: Jun 14, 2020 10:45 PM
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yeah lots of recruits choose schools because of the name of the honors program I'm sure.

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Posted: Jun 14, 2020 10:49 PM
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What I meant is that now all of this has gotten in the public’s consciousness it will now be used against us negatively


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Posted: Jun 14, 2020 10:51 PM
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We are so far past that stuff from years ago at Clemson it isnt funny. Clemson is special because of the people and the atmosphere. That hasnt changed

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Posted: Jun 14, 2020 11:51 PM
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Read this and you should see the difference. Calhoun was a powerful man and used his positions to expound on and support slavery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Calhoun


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Posted: Jun 15, 2020 9:40 AM
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What's up with that painting ? He's got a shocked and surprised look on his face .
Was he watching the hand maiden rinse her delicates ?

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Posted: Jun 15, 2020 8:31 AM
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The best way to deal with dead horses is to stop swinging and wait a LONG time to see if the horse is really dead. I suggest the dead horse watching time period be longer than the dead horse beating time.

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Posted: Jun 15, 2020 9:21 AM
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So if the university changes its name and the town of Clemson remains the same what’s the point? It would be dumb.


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Posted: Jun 15, 2020 9:41 AM
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Think then they'd just call it The University surrounded by Clemson .

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Posted: Jun 15, 2020 9:45 AM
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Posted: Jun 15, 2020 10:25 AM
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Actually I think Clemson University is not located within the city limits of the City of Clemson. I believe Clemson University is actually a separate municipality chartered by the State of South Carolina. The Town of Clemson did not exist until after Clemson College came into existence. The Town of Calhoun was located around the railway station in in the present area of Calhoun Corners. When Clemson College started classes the Calhoun merchants started moving their businesses to the area next to the campus so they could better serve the students. The City of Clemson was chartered in 1943.


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Posted: Jun 15, 2020 10:18 AM
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you mean aside from one of them being an active advocate of the civil war who repeatedly made statements concerning the necessity of slavery for the furtherance of the southern agrarian white society he was lucky enough to inhabit?


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Posted: Jun 15, 2020 10:38 AM
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Other that just being a previous owner of the land, Calhoun has 0% to do with the formation of the University.

In fact, between Calhoun's ownership and TG Clemson's ownership, the estate was publicly auctioned to my knowledge. Ownership forked to a different heir with an outstanding debt (the dies during the civil war) and then other descendants had to re-purchase the property.

I do not know the *history* of this person, but for all consistant logic, you could name the Honors college belong to Dr. James McElhenny and it would track the same for Calhoun unless you go the politics route...


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