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Why do so many Trump supporters think Bernie is a communist?
Feb 23, 2020, 11:55 AM
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Why do so many realize the difference between socialism and communism? Moreover why would they think Bernie wants communism?
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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If you leave off the fact that most of what Bernie...
Feb 23, 2020, 12:05 PM
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promises could never happen because congress isn't going to commit suicide I think he's fairly honest. That included him calling himself a socialist and only over the last couple years put 'democrat,' in front of it to try and tone it down enough to sell it to more voters.
"A self-described democratic socialist, Bernie Sanders is an independent senator from Vermont who has served in government since 1981."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Bernie_Sanders
Communist, socialist? It really doesn't matter with our electoral process. No one is going to become a dictator, even Trump.
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Re: If you leave off the fact that most of what Bernie...
Feb 23, 2020, 12:13 PM
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True, but even if he can't get it done, he doesn't want communism. Its not what he is fighting for.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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I'm not worried about anyone turning American into a...
Feb 23, 2020, 12:25 PM
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socialist country right now but if Bernie acts right if he wins he may get enough socialist in congress to make a mess during his second term.
I know that's the direction were are going and have been for about 100 years but I'm just glad I won't be here when it happens. Socialism never works and anyone who can tell me what part of Bernie's democratic socialism is any different that socialism I'm looking forward to understanding.
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Re: I'm not worried about anyone turning American into a...
Feb 23, 2020, 6:12 PM
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Asked how he defines Democratic Socialism, Sanders said this:
"I don't believe government should take over the grocery store down the street or own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a decent standard of living and that their incomes should go up, not down. I do believe in private companies that thrive and invest and grow in America, companies that create jobs here, rather than companies that are shutting down in America and increasing their profits by exploiting low-wage labor abroad."
No really Socialism, certainly not Communism. But Herr Trump will call him a communist hundreds of times if Sanders gets the nomination. And some of his followers will spread the same lie, as we've already seen happening.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Where will American middle class work if Bernie...
Feb 23, 2020, 6:30 PM
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raises corp taxes to 95%, Felix? I'm not taking cheap shots at bernie and I'd appreciate if you'd stop insinuating I'm a NAZI when you talk about the president I support being Herr Trump.
That's just ugly.
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"He was just trolling"....***
Feb 23, 2020, 8:13 PM
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Felix’s post reminded me of a little Johnny joke.
Feb 23, 2020, 8:27 PM
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Teacher walks up to little Johnny and sees that he is crying. “Johnny”, she says, “what’s the matter?”
Little Johnny stops sniffling, points at little Billy, and says “that mother f###er called me a dirty name.”
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Re: If you leave off the fact that most of what Bernie...
Feb 23, 2020, 7:23 PM
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Can you define socialist ??
Cause we already have a socialist economic system here. Have had one for over 100 years.
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Oculus Spirit [97717]
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Re: When you pick communist USSR as a honeymoon destination....
Feb 23, 2020, 12:49 PM
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Definitely, but there are countries that have everything he wants that are peaceful as it gets, actually the most peaceful. He doesn't want anything to do with communism.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Re: C&Ping the 1936 USSR constitution articles 118-24...
Feb 23, 2020, 4:36 PM
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Yep very true
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This has to be the stupidest reasoning.
Feb 24, 2020, 8:31 AM
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Lewis Grizzard did a show in the Soviet Union. Is he a communist?
I guess every business man who travels to China and sits down with communists must be communist.
Stupid.
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communism is murder, socialism is suicide
Feb 23, 2020, 12:53 PM
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The outcome is the same.
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Re: communism is murder, socialism is suicide
Feb 23, 2020, 12:58 PM
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Not really, but okay.
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Re: (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the
Feb 23, 2020, 10:47 PM
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Actually, it's an economic term for an economic system in which some markets are controlled or regulated by the government - like education, defense, police and fire, social security, utilities etc.
In real life, economies at both ends of the spectrum (capitalism at one end and communism at the other) have been moving towards the middle (socialism - or mixed economy) for quite a while now.
All Bernie is suggesting is that health care insurance should be another industry that is run by the government for the good of all Americans.
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The Socialist Workers Party is an actual communist party
Feb 23, 2020, 1:18 PM
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and Bernie campaigned for them in '80 and '84. Decades ago, maybe, but the guy was in his early 40s at the time. He has praised communist regimes in Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, China and the USSR, comparing them favorably on more than one occasion to the US. He said bread lines were a good thing.
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Re: The Socialist Workers Party is an actual communist party
Feb 23, 2020, 1:37 PM
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Fair enough. That said, what he is campaigning on now are just some socialist ideas..."free" medical, stronger social security, "free" college education, living wages, etc. He is not trying to get rid of democratic elections. There will still be a free market where we can own our own businesses and homes etc etc. He seems like he is for entrepreneurs. I just have heard him making it sound like he admires Denmark. He is just talking about some redistribution of some wealth. Maybe he has evolved. He seems similar to Warren to me. I dont want Warren or Bernie, but he doesnt sound like he wants North Korea. He wants Denmark. Anyway, I want Bloomberg.
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Well explained... +1. However, screw Bloomberg.***
Feb 23, 2020, 2:12 PM
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Re: Well explained... +1. However, screw Bloomberg.***
Feb 23, 2020, 2:30 PM
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I just can't get away from the soft borders and free medical for illegals. It bothers me. I also can't stand PC bull and identity politics. Its tough.
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Re: Well explained... +1. However, screw Bloomberg.***
Feb 23, 2020, 4:37 PM
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It should, they cost this country $145 billion per year.
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Wouldn't work... Bad knees. ***
Feb 23, 2020, 4:19 PM
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MiniMike should get to use a box anyway.***
Feb 23, 2020, 6:31 PM
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Re: Why do so many Trump supporters think Bernie is a communist?
Feb 23, 2020, 1:21 PM
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Re: Why do so many Trump supporters think Bernie is a communist?
Feb 23, 2020, 6:51 PM
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ARTICLE 118. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to work, that is, are guaranteed the right to employment and payment for their work in accordance with its quantity and quality.
The right to work is ensured by the socialist organization of the national economy, the steady growth of the productive forces of Soviet society, the elimination of the possibility of economic crises, and the abolition of unemployment.
ARTICLE 119. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to rest and leisure.
The right to rest and leisure is ensured by the reduction of the working day to seven hours for the overwhelming majority of the workers, the institution of annual vacations with full pay for workers and employees and the provision of a wide network of sanatoria, rest homes and clubs for the accommodation of the working people.
ARTICLE 120. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to maintenance in old age and also in the case of sickness or loss of capacity to work.
This right is ensured by the extensive development of social insurance of workers and employees at state expense, free medical service for the working people and the provision of a wide network of health resorts for the use of the working people.
ARTICLE 121. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to education.
This right is ensured by universal, compulsory elementary education; by education, including higher education, being free of charge; by the system of state stipends for the overwhelming majority of students in the universities and colleges; by instruction in schools being conducted in the native language, and by the organization in the factories, state farms, machine and tractor stations and collective farms of free vocational, technical and agronomic training for the working people.
ARTICLE 122. Women in the U.S.S.R. are accorded equal rights with men in all spheres of economic, state, cultural, social and political life.
The possibility of exercising these rights is ensured to women by granting them an equal right with men to work, payment for work, rest and leisure, social insurance and education, and by state protection of the interests of mother and child, pre-maternity and maternity leave with full pay, and the provision of a wide network of maternity homes, nurseries and kindergartens.
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Re: Why do so many Trump supporters think Bernie is a communist?
Feb 23, 2020, 9:34 PM
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User Logo Carlsbad® Ring of Honor [28337] TigerPulse: 100% Posts: 34703 Joined: 5/16/04 Why do so many Trump supporters think Bernie is a communist? Posted: Feb 23, 2020 11:55 AM Reply
Why do so many realize the difference between socialism and communism? Moreover why would they think Bernie wants communism?
comrade bernie at your service you pos
https://www.facebook.com/dan.bongino/videos/2394519374173277/?t=1
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WOW, thanks for.that link!!!!
Feb 24, 2020, 12:41 AM
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I will broadcast this over and.over on what a danger this dude is
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Re: Why do so many Trump supporters think Bernie is a communist?
Feb 24, 2020, 3:42 AM
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Are you coot deroberts? Why is your pulse as low as a coots? You must really be disliked by everyone. Good work bud. There are coots with higher pulses on here.
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Re: Why do so many Trump supporters think Bernie is a communist?
Feb 24, 2020, 8:28 AM
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I am proud of my pulse. Means I’m doing something right on a board full of morons like Tigernet.
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Re: Why do so many Trump supporters think Bernie is a communist?
Feb 24, 2020, 8:27 AM
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Everything is black and white with trumpsters. There’s no nuance. You are either 100% for them or you’re a communist who hates America and wants to see it destroyed.
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Because that's what they are told and it makes sense to them
Feb 24, 2020, 8:29 AM
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These people are not higher order thinkers man.
It's not that complicated.
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