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If we had a gay counselor on our team, we would be

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Posted: Aug 28, 2015 10:46 PM
 

considered progressive, and everyone would love us. No one would say that we are pushing gayness on anyone, and the libtards would just promote everything about Clemson.

If Clemson had 83% of players on the team that were gay, then I would be just fine having a gay counselor on the team, and honestly, if 83% of the players on the team were gay, then the libtards would DEMAND that they have a counselor. Amirite?

The truth is, 83% of Americans identify themselves as Christians, so it makes sense to have the FREEDOM to go to a person that has a spiritual belief as you do when we have problems.

I forget the atheist player that was asked, maybe Aaron Kelly, if he ever felt pressured to join in religious activities, and he answered with a resounding negative. That was AFTER he left Clemson.

Folks wonder why people are getting shot in public for no reason, well that is what happens when you take God out of everything.

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Re: If we had a gay counselor on our team, we would be

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Posted: Aug 28, 2015 10:47 PM
 

people are getting shot because of atheists?

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It is not Christians shooting them***

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Posted: Aug 28, 2015 10:50 PM
 

Not the mass murders anyway.




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Re: It is not Christians shooting them***

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:13 AM
 

How many of those shooters would identify as Christians, I wonder.

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Re: It is not Christians shooting them***

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:45 AM
 

Just a google search of the more infamous killers and their backgrounds gives good insight on that. But hey, let's be critical of all the Christians and Jews in the world.

Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez - Muslim

vester flanagan - unknown family was Jehovah Witness

Dylabb Roof - Self-Proclained hard core atheist

James Holmes - Agnostic

Adam Lanza - Atheist

jared loughner -Atheist (Very critical of Christians)

seung hui cho - devout atheist and socialist

aaron alexis - Buddhist

Eric Harris - Atheist

Dylan Klebold - Atheist

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:54 AM
 

What's the source on that?


Re: It is not Christians shooting them***

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:11 AM
 

Googled each one

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:00 AM
 

What about the KKK?
I believe they identify as Christians.

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Re: It is not Christians shooting them***

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:09 AM
 

So do the crusaders, but neither are anywhere near relevant today.

And I will say that in both of those cases, as is the case with radical muslims, it is a perverted view of the religion and not doctrine based in the fundamentals of each religion.

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Ah yes, the good old KKK...

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:31 AM
 

...as if they are relevant in today's world. Or have been for the last 50 years. Nice try.

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Re: Ah yes, the good old KKK...

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 3:28 AM
 

I know right... What a bunch of idiots. How can you claim Christianity and then claim to hate Jews in the same sentence? Wasn't Christ a Jewish Rabbi of the 1st Century? Kind of ignorant when you consider the sentiments of it all right?

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Re: It is not Christians shooting them***

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 3:27 AM
 

> What about the KKK?
> I believe they identify as Christians.


So does Joel Osteen, but the difference is that real Christians do not identify with them seeing as what they teach isn't biblically supported. They twist the meaning of scripture to support their heresy, but in reality it couldn't be further from truth. Also, just because you put God's name on something doesn't mean he cosigns with you.

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So some folks twist the Bible, but the 'real' ones...


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 10:01 AM
 

...interpret it.

I'm sure you can tell us which are which.

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Caitlyn whatever-it-is identifies as a female.

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 9:52 AM
 

What you identify as and what you actually are, can be completely different.

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 8:19 AM
 

#### Cheney - Methodist


Adolf Hitler - Devout Christian

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 9:07 AM
 

When Christians do it, they do it big.


Re: Adolf Hitler - Devout Christian


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 9:19 AM
 

As a child.


He quit attending as an adult and it has been written that he hated Christianity.

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Wrong...

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 9:29 AM
 

As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”

[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922]


You try to prove me wrong by posting something

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 9:35 AM
 

He said at a fairly young age. LMBO As I said above, he was a devout christian but left it behind.

Hitler made it clear that he “hated Christianity” and was going to eliminate it when the war ended (see Kershaw, 2000). One reason Hitler “hated Christianity” was because he believed that “it had crippled everything noble about humanity” (quoted in Kershaw, 2000, p. 936).

In Hitler’s words “the heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity” (Hitler, 1953, p. 6). The Jesuits were “swine,” and all of Christianity was “Jewish Christianity” which was comparable with “Jewish Bolshevism.” Hitler concluded that both were evil and both had to be destroyed (Kershaw, 2000, pp. 330, 488). His reasoning was based on his belief that Christianity was an “illegitimate” Jewish child and, as a Jewish child, was swine like its parent that must be eradicated. Hitler considered Christianity the “invention of the Jew Saul” (Azar, 1990, p. 154)


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Re: You try to prove me wrong by posting something


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 9:40 AM
 

Next time, before posting the quote of the very first picture you see on a Google search, do some reading.

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Sorry but 32 years old is not a fairly young age.


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 9:49 AM
 

And the quote I gave you came straight out of the man's mouth. Not from some third party.


Re: Sorry but 32 years old is not a fairly young age.


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 10:01 AM
 

So why don't you post some facts of him attending mass, etc while actually killing people? Bet you can't.

Many people have been Christians or claimed Christianity in younger years. Even some on this site have admitted to at one time being Christian. For some reason that logic escapes you.

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Seriously? You're now going down path of last time...

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 10:02 AM
 

...someone attended church as the barometer?

There is good and bad of all kinds of people.

Do what you think is right...and let others do the same.

No group of any kind has a monopoly on any level.

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 10:07 AM
 

If you'll read the thread, it's response to cool claiming Hitler was a devout Christian. At one time, I believe he probably was.


There are articles that claim he went to mass all the time as a kid(probably like me, he was dragged to church) but as an adult, he no longer went. (Again, probably like me)


And cool fails to understand, the quote he posted, of course Hitler would make positive remarks towards Christianity in public, he was trying to get elected. What politician in that day and time didn't try to get Christians on their side

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 10:09 AM
 

And my point in all of this, anyone can claim to be devout Christian or devout anything but actions speak louder than any claims.

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I gotcha'..so those 'claiming' to be Christian but do...


Posted: Aug 30, 2015 8:55 AM
 

...terrible things, really aren't.

Those who claim to be other (even non) religions are 'typical' for their belief group?

Come on man, get serious.

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Re: I gotcha'..so those 'claiming' to be Christian but do...


Posted: Aug 30, 2015 9:58 AM
 

Can you link to where I said anything close to that?

In fact, I said anyone can claim to be devout Christian or devout ANYTHING but actions speak louder than words.


I'm no church goer, but I'll defend Christians when they're being labeled as something they're not, same with Muslims or whatever.


Sorry, I know for some reason you don't agree....but Adolf Hitler was no Christian.


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Eric Metaxas wrote a fabulous biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:46 PM
 

and in it there is a tremendous amount of information as to how the Nazis, under Hitler's regime, treated the "Christian" religion. As in many other times though the centuries, the Church under Hitler was simply co-opted to become a mouthpiece of a secular political movement. It was one power base seeking to become more influential by co-opting another "power base".

But Christ was fairly direct with his words when speaking about his "power" not being one that would be used on Earth. He went to the Cross with that promise....

Yet the Nazis tried to take over the world.

When you try to suggest that Hitler was even remotely a true "Christian", you strain the very limits of your sanity as well as your credibility.


Re: Eric Metaxas wrote a fabulous biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:55 PM
 

Careful. He finds more credibility in the very first picture he finds on a Google search than he does by actually reading.

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Probably about, oh, eighty three percent of them, maybe?

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 10:06 AM
 

Funny thing how demographic percentages tend to propagate through societal behaviors...and I wan't even a math major.

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Re: It is not Christians shooting them***

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Posted: Aug 30, 2015 3:21 PM
 

> How many of those shooters would identify as
> Christians, I wonder.

I'm a proud atheist and LGBT supporter. Until you meet and get to know a person that's affected by LGBT laws, you're ignorant. ### is this doing on a football board? Idiot. Take your nonsense elsewhere.

Gfy.

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Posted: Aug 30, 2015 3:22 PM
 

I'm a proud atheist and LGBT supporter. Until you meet and get to know a person that's affected by LGBT laws, you're ignorant. ### is this doing on a football board? Idiot. Take your nonsense elsewhere.

Gfy.

Also, go Tigers!

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God is shooting them?

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 4:11 AM
 

Who is you? ("when you take God out of everything.") God found his way into a football forum. Guess he can take care of himself. So whoever commits this weeks mass murder can just say, "God made me do it"? Sounds like Pat Robertson - the guy who said that he fought the Chinese Communists in Korea but actually was never there.

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what does being gay have to do with it at all?***


Posted: Aug 28, 2015 11:05 PM
 



GO TIGERS


Re: what does being gay have to do with it at all?***

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Posted: Aug 28, 2015 11:15 PM
 

Don't you know, gay is in. You can kick puppies and punch babies, but if you are gay, then it is ok. Or in, cough, Katlyn (Bruce) Jenner's case, kill a woman, blame it on her, and then win ESPN's most courageous person award weeks later for getting a set of boobs, and putting on makeup over a young girl that played basketball with cancer, and ultimately dying from it.

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That's what I thought also!***

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Posted: Aug 28, 2015 11:33 PM
 

Null


Re: That's what I thought also!***

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Posted: Aug 28, 2015 11:42 PM
 

What? You thought that you do not have an original rebuke, so you post a gif instead that says nothing?

What part is not true?

Everyone has a right to be who they want to be, but when you give a courageous award to someone for being transgender over 19 year old Lauren Hill because it is the in thing in Hollywood right now, then society as a whole has issues.

You can support that backwards thinking all you want, but some around here have more common sense.

You can post all the reaction gifs you want, actually you were not even that original, but that does not change anything.

I am not saying gay is a bad thing, it is who you are then so be it. But it is not a big deal, there are a lot of gay people out there. Nobody cares, so it sure should not get celebrated and rewarded over Laurin Hill.

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Re: That's what I thought also!***

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:13 AM
 

this thread is a bunch of nonsense


While I agree about the Caitlyn Jenner thing to an extent

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 2:54 AM
 

And I do kinda think the award was a sham... Nothing to do with Jenner being transgendered though, more the fact that Lauren Hill deserved it more, and I'm tired of hearing about the whole dumb Kardashian family constantly, including Jenner. but I also still don't see what that has to do with someone being gay. Gay does not equal transgendered. A gay man may like the same gender but that in no way means he doesn't want to be a man.

And I don't see how some rich reality show "star" in any way indicates anything about society one way or the other, besides the fact that people will watch whatever crap you put on TV. All it says to me is that ABC wanted to use their Jenner interview to try and cash in at the ESPYs and get bigger ratings.

Also, you seem to be under the impression that someone gay or trans can get away with anything based on the actions of some rich privileged celebrity. When in reality, you still hear stories about people being fired from their job just for being gay.

GO TIGERS


Re: While I agree about the Caitlyn Jenner thing to an extent


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 3:13 AM
 

i'd be more onboard with caitlyn if she wasn't associated with
those doofy kardashians. and yes, lauren hill should've gotten
that award.


You'd be "onboard" with Caitlyn Jenner?


Posted: Aug 30, 2015 9:25 AM
 

I'm thinking that came out wrong?

For relaxing times, make it Suntory time


What this guy said, OP sounds like a dufus.***

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Its Caitlyn not Katlyn you silly***


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It's a mental illness.

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 9:49 AM
 

Kinda like liberalism.

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actually, the American Psychology Association recently (last few years)


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:09 PM
 

declared that even "pedophilia" should not be considered a "mental illness".

That's right; a person can prey upon a defenseless and powerless minor and yet be seen to be simply "expressing him(her)self"; and yet be seen to simply be making a "personal choice".

Sexual deviancy has been taken off the books as a mental issue by the liberals in academia because it allows them to act on their base immorality

and yet supposedly speak from a position of social and ethical validity.

Short version: liberals lie; moral relativism is not morality at all; and

a large swath of America is too ignorant, unthinking, and un-empathetic to understand that evil is always more subtle that we give it credit for.

+1 to the OP... eff the FFRF.


Re: actually, the American Psychology Association recently (last few years)

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Posted: Aug 30, 2015 10:18 AM
 

This post kind of highlights the problem.

Gay people actually exist and having a counselor would actually help improve society.

A Christian counselor just prevents progress. At some people society is going to have to accept there is no God. And hopefully it will be sooner than later as it would solve a lot of our problems in the Middle East.

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Relevant to the Tiger Football Board?******


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Relevant because the original post was about a group


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:50 AM
 

that is trying to remove the Chaplain from the football team. Yea, it got hijacked, but the subject was football team and its chaplain.

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As idiotic as this post may seem...

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:32 AM
 

the OP has a 100% pulse rating and 7 TUs to this enlightening viewpoint. That and the mods don't move it to the amphitheater (in their defense it is 12 o'oclock).

Still though, I'd bet that there is probably a large populace of TNetters who facepalm this post that'll never post a response to it.

Those folk are much more the man that I am.


Re: As idiotic as this post may seem...

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:51 AM
 

I am betting that there exists a larger population of t-netters that are getting sick and tired of getting their religious freedoms taken away. It is a teams right to have a chaplain.

I would even bet that you are in the minority.

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Re: As idiotic as this post may seem...


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:01 AM
 

I guess it depends on how you define religious freedom.


Probably the same way Coach Dabo Swinney does

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:04 AM
 

Have a chaplain on board to those who want it, but does not pressure anyone with his beliefs.

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Here's how it's defined...

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:15 AM
 

..."Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

It's kind of a crazy Constitutional 1st Amendment (Bill of Rights) kinda thingy.

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Posted: Aug 30, 2015 3:45 PM
 

I am familiar with this thingy. I am sure that you fully support that a public (government-funded) college not endorse a particular religious viewpoint, right? Wait, unless it's your own. I get it now.


Perhaps some agree with the OP's viewpoint...

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:56 AM
 

...and reject your "enlightened" thoughts? Just something to consider.

And by the way, I would suggest that a discussion about our FOOTBALL chaplain possibly belongs in the FOOTBALL forum. Even if you don't like the subject matter.

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Re: Perhaps some agree with the OP's viewpoint...


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:03 AM
 

Thank you!

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Re: As idiotic as this post may seem...

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 2:26 AM
 

I tried to give it a thumbs down, but I wasn't allowed. must've been Jesus.


Hah! How ironic.... you have to pay on this board to have the "freedom"


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:53 PM
 

of a "Thumb's Down"!

And yet in your ignorance, you try to gain "liberal society clique points" with a smart-arse, tongue-in-cheek retort half-blaming it on "Jesus"....

what a moron...


Re: If we had a gay counselor on our team, we would be

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:38 AM
 

That would also mean that all those pretty girls that love FB players, 83% of them would still be available. But for real, I just don't understand any male being happy sliding up and down on the pole over splashing around in the hole!!!

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how the F do you know this?

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:46 AM
 

my guess is tnet would be flaming said counselor.

Look .. you are American or not.

Groups like FFFRASW are America, you buy in or you don't.

If there us no fire...what are you worried about?

The FRRRRAA butwipes can sniff, proclaim, request whatever the heck they want... if there is truth to it, i want it fixed... if not move on. What da budah are you people worried about?


I was raised white trash irish Roman catholic. i still believe in god, heaven and in spite of my best judgement the birth of jesus christ. I teach my children Christian beliefs and they are there every Sunday. No one turns me off from Christianity more than the Irish, the Catholics, and the Christians.

I much rather be American that any of those.



My path to heaven is forgiveness, understating, and passion. Im sure i will not see many of you there.


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Love your post!


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:53 AM
 

After rereading the Sermon on the Mount, I ask myself - WWJD?

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Re: how the F do you know this?

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 8:19 AM
 

If this is your path to heaven you're not going to make it. You forgot one thing. JESUS. This is exactly what this original post is about


Oh good grief some of you just lookin' for a fight.

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 9:53 AM
 

Douchebaggery runs deep in all religions (and non religions).

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Re: how the F do you know this?


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 9:32 AM
 

Outstanding!
+1

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Re: If we had a gay counselor on our team, we would be

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:51 AM
 

This country has never been so divided- I pray that something brings it back together.


Re: If we had a gay counselor on our team, we would be

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 12:55 AM
 

I do believe that God will get it all fixed!!!

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Re: If we had a gay counselor on our team, we would be

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:01 AM
 

I think when you have people telling other people what they can and cannot do, in this case have a team chaplain, then it does create division.

I do not care about what others do, but the point was that if it was something that was endorsed by main stream media, the left, and the groups that generally complain about what others do, while at the same time speaking out the other side of their mouth about tolerance, then it would be just fine and even celebrated. Some of the posters that have replied fail to see the hypocrisy in that. It kinda proves the point though.

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I guess I just don't see the analogy...

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 3:04 AM
 

Since a person can be both gay and identify as a Christian. It's not like the two things are mutually exclusive.

I know someone will reply and say that you can't be a gay Christian but I'd disagree. Granted, most denominations believe it's a sin but there are also churches that don't. To me, there's too many differing beliefs between denominations,and even among individual members, to make a blanket statement on what all Christians believe or don't, other than a sincere belief in Jesus.

That's just my opinion though, not trying to be an ### or anything...

GO TIGERS


Re: I guess I just don't see the analogy...


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 11:16 AM
 

It is still a sin but it's no different than a sin Iike gluttony, anger, or insert sin here. People all have sins that they struggle with but they are still sins. Can a homosexual be a Christian? Maybe or maybe not depends if there has been a heart change. I can't judge if someone is saved all I can see is by their fruits. I know people that have struggled with homosexual but bc they are Christian has never given in to sinning. In our society today it is going to be a tough thing for Christians and the gay agenda to commingle but it's going to be in the media and it's going to be a topic for a long time.


Re: I guess I just don't see the analogy...


Posted: Aug 30, 2015 11:43 AM
 

This is not an anti-gay post and I did not for it to read that way. It is more about how we live in a sad state when we a group thinks that having a chaplain on the team in a violation of anyones rights. The post is about the chaplain, not about homosexuality. The analogy is that if we had a gay counselor, it would be supported by the same group that says having a chaplain is a violation of rights. However, it would be the same thing. Like I said, if we had as many gay players as we do Christians, then I would support that, but the fact is, we do not.

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Re: I guess I just don't see the analogy...


Posted: Aug 30, 2015 12:33 PM
 

There is no separation of homosexuality and state.

You're not making a logical analogy.

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Re: I guess I just don't see the analogy...


Posted: Aug 30, 2015 2:48 PM
 

You're a chicken. Chickens do not understand logic. How are you supposed to understand logic with a scar education?

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I got called a moron by something called


Posted: Aug 30, 2015 2:58 PM
 

epiduo in this thread. George hates this thread. I just wanna hear about tiger football.


Re: If we had a gay counselor on our team, we would be

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 5:16 AM
 

LKN....You speak the truth. Thank you for your eloquent reply....jaybird...class of 1972


Vietnam? The Civil Rights Movement? Hell, the Civil War?***


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 2:56 AM
 



GO TIGERS


I don't think that the gay counselor would


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:06 AM
 

be "promoting gayness".


Aaron Kelly was LDS, not atheist***


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:10 AM
 



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Re: Aaron Kelly was LDS, not atheist***


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 1:13 AM
 

My mistake. But he was the one that was interviewed? I am not sure, I just know that players have been asked about it before.

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Re: Aaron Kelly was LDS, not atheist***


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 11:08 AM
 

Pretty sure it was JW


I love tigernet, but posts like this

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 2:18 AM
 

make me cringe.
how 'bout we just concentrate on this upcoming season that starts in a week?


If we Christians had any real form of persecution...

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 7:47 AM
 

you'd drop all the political bullchit because most of us wouldn't be announcing or declaring of faith.

Until they start feeding us to lions for sport stop with the poor me bullchit.


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Since many gays are Christians, your analogy would have

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 8:44 AM
 

been much better if you had used atheists instead of gays as your opposite. I agree with an earlier post in this thread. What do gays have to do with this? But you must be pretty high and mighty if you think you can proclaim they can't be Christians.


Of all the 'Christians,' in this country my guess is that...

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 9:09 AM
 

about five percents are more than Christian by secular standards. Meaning, most are just religious people who identify with Christian because the fit the very loosest standard. But don't let that stop you from putting NAZI and other radical sect in the mix.

Christians don't live and die by politics, we seldom call wrong, right or right, wrong but we never condemn others. Justify what you want, it's not my place to tell you right from wrong so if you don't want to hear it don't ask.

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Who do you mean by this "we" that don't condemn others?


Posted: Aug 29, 2015 9:54 AM
 

Surely you can't mean your run of the mill Christian, do you?

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There's no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people who ask questions.


I don't have any 'run of the mill christians.'

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 10:04 AM
 

Get rid of the emotions then read the post slower.

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You're the one seemingly blinded by emotions.


Posted: Aug 30, 2015 8:57 AM
 

Your overall claims throughout this seem to be that Christians who do bad things aren't really Christians.

Folks of other faith (or lack of) that do bad things are fairly commonplace.

My point is we Christians don't have a moral high ground, and those that claim as much are missing the point.

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There's no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people who ask questions.


My claim is the Cross and Jesus hanging there.


Posted: Aug 30, 2015 9:33 AM
 

I have no moral high ground. That's indicative of pride. I'm as guilty as that thief who challenged The Christ to save them all by getting them off the crosses.

I don't believe that 95% of those who identify as Christian are Christian at all. It's just a way to differentiate themselves so that they can look down on others. Hippies, rednecks, Jews, Christian, muslims...all those categories are identities given to have someone to look down on.

I don't look down on others but I don't allow them to speak for me either.

I think we just had a misunderstanding.





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I think yall have missed the point of the post and have only focused on the scenario

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Posted: Aug 29, 2015 10:44 AM
 

that he set up. He's not picking on gay people. He's raising a point about how we are in a phase where we pick and choose our justice. It's not equality it's who can we exploit so as to get votes and weaken a majority by instilling fear of being labeled intolerant. Gay is just the flavor of the week.

Yall focus to much on the words and not the message


Re: I think yall have missed the point of the post and have only focused on the scenario

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Posted: Aug 30, 2015 11:46 AM
 

Thank you, you said it better than I guess I did. That is exactly what I am saying. I am not anti-gay, I am not pro-gay either. I am pro-choice to live your life as you see fit as long as it does not infringe on the life of others.

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SC is so gay***


Posted: Aug 30, 2015 9:35 AM
 

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