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I just need to go on a rant for a sec about some old stuff
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I just need to go on a rant for a sec about some old stuff


Jun 17, 2015, 4:34 AM

CJ Spiller in 2009 (behind a HORRIBLE O-line with a HORRIBLE QB):
Rushing -- 1,212 yards/5.6 average, 12 TD
Receiving -- 503 yards/14.0 average, 4 TD
Special Teams -- PR-8-210/KR-21-708/5 TD
TOTAL: 2633 yards and 21 TDs

Mark Ingram in 2009 (behind a great O-Line):
Rushing -- 1,658/6.1 average, 17 TD
Receiving -- 334 yard/10.4 average, 3 TD
Special Teams -- PR 0-0/KR 0-0/ 0 TD
TOTAL: 1992 yards and 20 TDs

Reggie Bush in 2005 (won the Heisman...before giving it back...behind a GREAT O-line and a QB in the Heisman race as well):
Rushing -- 1,777 yards/8.7 average, 16 TD
Receiving -- 478 yards/12.9 average, 2 TD
Special Teams -- PR 18-179/KR 28-493/ 1 TD
TOTAL: 2927 yards and 19 TDs

2 of these guys won the Heisman. 1 wasn't even INVITED to the ceremony!!!????

The Heisman Trophy is dumb.

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Kyle Parker was horrible?***


Jun 17, 2015, 7:01 AM



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Re: Kyle Parker was horrible?


Jun 17, 2015, 7:11 AM

Well wearing the baseball pants while playing football was a bit much. :)

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55% completion percentage - 20 TDs - 12 INTs


Jun 17, 2015, 7:23 AM [ in reply to Kyle Parker was horrible?*** ]

averaged 2.2 yards per carry.

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Second team Freshman All-American, first team


Jun 17, 2015, 8:31 AM

Freshman All-ACC, set freshman record at Clemson for completions, yards, and TDs. First freshman QB to take his team to the ACC championship game(against GT, who was later stripped of the title). Yeah, he was horrible.

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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
- H. L. Mencken


His attitude was.***


Jun 17, 2015, 9:05 AM



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There's something in these hills.


He gave it his all at Auburn though. Should have beat the NC***


Jun 17, 2015, 9:10 AM



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"Anybody that says Coach Brownell is the best coach to come through Clemson is going to start an argument." -JP Hall


I still am bitter about the hit he took from Nick Fairley.


Jun 17, 2015, 10:47 AM

Refs were BLIND on that play.

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He was very good unless the game was on the line late


Jun 17, 2015, 10:06 AM [ in reply to Kyle Parker was horrible?*** ]

in 4 of 5 losses from '09, we had the ball late with a chance to win or tie with one possession.
GT, Mary, TCU, and GT again. (vs Usuc we got way behind.)

We only managed to tie a late game once, and that was at Miami when we were able to run the ball into fg territory b/c KP threw an INT in the endzone on the previous possession.

KP was as unclutch a QB as we've had. Very talented overall, though.

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LOL!***


Jun 17, 2015, 10:40 AM



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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
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Spiller deserved to be invited. No question.***


Jun 17, 2015, 7:28 AM



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Re: Spiller deserved to be invited. No question.***


Jun 17, 2015, 8:53 AM

Agree. IMO....he should have won. He was more valuable to Clemson than the other two were to their teams.

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If Clemson wins the acc, spiller gets an invite


Jun 17, 2015, 7:54 AM

Espn went sour on Clemson and if you want to win popularity contests you need the head Heather on your side.

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Re: If Clemson wins the acc, spiller gets an invite


Jun 17, 2015, 8:04 AM

Watching CJ against GT in Tampa was an amazing experience. He was just fabulous that night, turf toe and cold temps be darned.
The loss stung , our defense was awful ...but he won the MVP and deservedly so.
CJ was the best running back Clemson University ever had . IMHO

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DB23


Re: I just need to go on a rant for a sec about some old stuff


Jun 17, 2015, 8:11 AM

The Heisman does not go to the best player, it goes to the best player on one of the best teams.

We failed to win a trophy.

Can you screenshot yourself punching your keyboard at this outrage please.

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Jun 17, 2015, 8:13 AM

Absolutely correct .

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DB23


and yet, "Cocaine Train" George Rogers.***


Jun 17, 2015, 8:24 AM [ in reply to Re: I just need to go on a rant for a sec about some old stuff ]



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Jun 17, 2015, 11:54 AM [ in reply to Re: I just need to go on a rant for a sec about some old stuff ]

Lol. George Rogers played on one of the best teams?? #### the ignorance on here

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I understand and I sent an email to the downtown athletic


Jun 17, 2015, 8:51 AM

club when the gave the heisman trophy to that guy from fsu. They did not honor their own mission statement and I too had had enough and told them how disappointed I was in them and how I had lost all respect for the association and the trophy. I let them know that I did not recognize them or the trophy any more. I believe others should have shamed them as well.

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Re: I understand and I sent an email to the downtown athletic


Jun 17, 2015, 8:54 AM

Way to show them up.

You taught them a good lesson mate.

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they had to invite tebow for that 5th spot.


Jun 17, 2015, 8:56 AM

Cause you know, he's tebow

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I think history has shown tebow deserved invite over spiller***


Jun 17, 2015, 9:23 AM



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Jun 17, 2015, 9:37 AM

Tebow does dederve the invite . He hlas a lotta spare time these days ...with that whole not good enough to play pro football thing happening .
Spiller>Tebow

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DB23


Re: I think history has shown tebow deserved invite over spiller***


Jun 17, 2015, 9:41 AM

English knot wirking for me 2day

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DB23


I said I wouldn't watch another presentation ceremony


Jun 17, 2015, 8:57 AM

after that and still haven't.

Everyone knows it's a beauty contest these days and the "best" player in CFB rarely wins it.

We all may be watching this year for #4...

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Heisman Trophy ceased being awarded....


Jun 17, 2015, 9:02 AM

to the best college player a long time ago. You still have to be talented, but you have to come from a one loss team or a team playing for the National Championship. Does the name Gordie Lockbaum ring a bell? The only player to win the trophy from a losing team was Paul Hornung. Can you picture a winner today from a losing team?

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Yeah, but if we're talking about who deserved the


Jun 17, 2015, 11:28 AM

Heisman, Jim Brown clearly deserved it the year it was awarded to Hornung.

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Re: I just need to go on a rant for a sec about some old stuff


Jun 17, 2015, 9:56 AM

I agree 100%, that is one dumb A$$ piece of metal;)

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'09 really showed what a farce the Heisman is


Jun 17, 2015, 10:00 AM

and was one season I wanted to reach through the tv and strangle Herbstreit anytime the Heisman was discussed.
CJ was clearly the most outstanding player in college football that year. Noone else was close.

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It'll be very interesting


Jun 17, 2015, 11:00 AM

to see what most of the posters in this thread think about the Heisman after DW4 wins it after this season.

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