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If that sequence doesn't typify how far Clemson baseball has fallen....
Apr 24, 2015, 9:45 PM
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0-2 count, runners on 1st and 2nd. Up 2-1 in the bottom of the 8th.
Pitch 3: outside
Pitch 4: low in the dirt, ball gets away. Runners move up.
Pitch 5: grounder to first booted, then kicked into shallow right field. Both runners score.
Clemson now down 2-3.
Hey Jack, get aggressive buddy. Go after the K on 0-2. Instead you gave up two playing it safe. Bad game management, bad fielding. Bad team.
Time to retire bud.
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Re: If that sequence doesn't typify how far Clemson baseball has fallen....
Apr 24, 2015, 9:46 PM
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agree except the comment about the 0-2 pitch
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Re: If that sequence doesn't typify how far Clemson baseball has fallen....
Apr 24, 2015, 9:58 PM
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REALLY PITIFULL!!!! I have turned it off... two out at home, errors,stupid pitching, stupid coaching
this cannot be Clemson baseball!! I'm done!
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A friend of mine who goes to many games told me that if we
Apr 24, 2015, 10:05 PM
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get ahead 0-2 on a batter, the next pitche is at least a foot off the plate. He had been telling me that for a while. So, finally I went to the C of C game. Sure enough, we get ahead 0-2 and I tell my buddy, that my friend says this pitch will be a foot off the plate. Right on cue......foot off the plate,next ones a ball, fouls one off, ball, walk.
On the other hand, it seems we have had a pretty good history of grooving an 0-2 pitch as well............
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Re: If that sequence doesn't typify how far Clemson baseball has fallen....
Apr 24, 2015, 9:55 PM
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The play at 1st was a tough play, far from a boot
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Re: If that sequence doesn't typify how far Clemson baseball has fallen....
Apr 25, 2015, 2:41 AM
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The play at first he played to the side. U gotta keep it in front of u even if u take it off the face. Pitiful defense
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Re: If that sequence doesn't typify how far Clemson baseball has fallen....
Apr 24, 2015, 10:03 PM
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chalk this one up to Jack Leg and the sorry a$$ pitching coach.
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Re: If that sequence doesn't typify how far Clemson baseball has fallen....
Apr 24, 2015, 10:16 PM
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this is very well said! Drad had the play to make and he let us get this bad!!all IPTAY members need to write Drad right now!!!!!!!!!!!
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I notice that Okey sets up on the outside before the pitch
Apr 24, 2015, 10:50 PM
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is delivered too .Doesn't that give the call away to the batter?
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Re: I notice that Okey sets up on the outside before the pitch
Apr 24, 2015, 11:30 PM
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Okey was calling the pitches so any questions should be addressed to him. And no, the batter cannot see the catcher.
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Re: I notice that Okey sets up on the outside before the pitch
Apr 25, 2015, 2:46 AM
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U ever played baseball? U can absolutely see the catcher shift over too early. Knock the ball down at first and you're still in the game. Story of the season. Terrible defense
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Re: I notice that Okey sets up on the outside before the pitch
Apr 25, 2015, 7:52 AM
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LOL you are 100% correct...IF the catcher moves too early....that was not the question. And, no, I don't play baseball but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night and they had cable and every college and pro game I watched the catcher positioned himself into his receiving position when the pitcher initiated his wind up.
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Re: I notice that Okey sets up on the outside before the pitch
Apr 27, 2015, 12:48 PM
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HONEST RESEARCH HERE!!!!! I made a point of watching parts of 4 college games and 3 professional games and I saw 33 counts go 0-2. 2 of the next pitches were strikes (one swinging and one called) The other 31 were off the plate or in the dirt. I have the napkin to prove it LOL.
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Re: I notice that Okey sets up on the outside before the pitch
Apr 27, 2015, 1:21 PM
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It's why these debates are so aggravating. There needs to be some kind of change but the loudest voices on here clearly do not watch/understand baseball. Okey has allowed two passed balls all season. But let's go ahead and throw probably the best player on the team under the bus.
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Re: I notice that Okey sets up on the outside before the pitch
Apr 28, 2015, 4:20 AM
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If the pitch was in the dirt, the official scorer probably ruled it a wild pitch and the pitcher is who these yahoos should throw under the bus if that is their desire.
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Re: If that sequence doesn't typify how far Clemson baseball has fallen....
Apr 27, 2015, 1:02 PM
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how far has usuck fallen?
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Re: If that sequence doesn't typify how far Clemson baseball has fallen....
Apr 27, 2015, 4:51 PM
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I was not throwing him under the bus, I was actually agreeing with the 0-2 philosophy that the earlier poster said was so predictable and wrong.
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Changing up your pitches
Apr 27, 2015, 4:48 PM
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is a good strategy, but it only works if you keep changing it up. Throw outside some, but throw strikes enough to keep them honest. When you do it like we have done where you always throw it out of the strike zone with an 0-2 count you are defeating the purpose of changing in the first place. When you establish a pattern even a hack coaching staff can pick up on it and use it against you.
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