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Football Update: Bowden has turned down jobs since Clemson
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Football Update: Bowden has turned down jobs since Clemson


Sep 14, 2011, 11:19 PM

Bowden has turned down jobs since Clemson

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If Bowden would have fired Spence...he would still be here***


Sep 14, 2011, 11:25 PM



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"I've been working since I was 15 continually until now. I worked 40 hours a week at 15, when it wasn't even legal for 15 year olds to work that many hours."


We wouldn't have lost to USuC in 09.***


Sep 14, 2011, 11:38 PM



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There's something in these hills.


and nothing would have changed, the man reached his


Sep 15, 2011, 12:20 AM [ in reply to If Bowden would have fired Spence...he would still be here*** ]

ceiling here and it wasn't good enough, now dabo is doing worse, and people keep crying he needs more time. whatever. sadly our real problems are farther up the food chain, which is what concerns me the most.

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He was not given that option according to him.


Sep 15, 2011, 7:01 AM [ in reply to If Bowden would have fired Spence...he would still be here*** ]

According to an interview done with him over the summer.

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An option to him? He was in charge. He was supposed to


Sep 15, 2011, 8:32 AM

know the offense stunk. If he wanted a staff member gone, all he had to do was say bye bye. BS answer

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We do Chicken right...it's not just for frying anymore!


maybe not...


Sep 15, 2011, 8:34 AM

a common defense of Dabo hiring Napier was he wasn't given the money for an experienced OC.
If the AD says there's no money, who you gonna get?

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Come on now.....we paid TB out in the middle of the year.


Sep 15, 2011, 8:43 AM

Do you really think that happened? My understanding from people in the know....is TB didn't want to get rid of Spence. And I tend to believe that considering what we paid TB. The AD may control the purse strings but ultimately the big donors control the AD

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We do Chicken right...it's not just for frying anymore!


Oh I agree...


Sep 15, 2011, 8:59 AM

that holding onto Spence doomed Bowden.

But if what people say about TDP being on the cheap with the money for assistant coaches, it's at least possible that that played a role in his decision.

It's a 'better the devil you know than the one you don't' type deal. If they told me to fire Spence but won't give me the salary I need to go get a guy I know can help me save my job... I'm probably going to try and win with the guy I've got and just make some tweaks.

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What are you talking about. He was told, fire Spence or be


Sep 15, 2011, 8:36 AM [ in reply to He was not given that option according to him. ]

gone. He chose not to fire Spence. It was his call. And it cost him his job.

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Yep***


Sep 15, 2011, 8:43 AM



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We do Chicken right...it's not just for frying anymore!


Re: What are you talking about. He was told, fire Spence or be


Sep 15, 2011, 12:08 PM [ in reply to What are you talking about. He was told, fire Spence or be ]

Im not saying either way.......but I just repeated what was said in an interview with him. He was asked if he was told to fire Spence or he would be fired and his reply was that he was never given that option by TDP.

Don't shoot the messenger!!!!!!

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Re: What are you talking about. He was told, fire Spence or be


Sep 15, 2011, 12:25 PM

Shooting the messenger would be a good place to start. If you really want the BS to stop!!!

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How was that not an option?


Sep 15, 2011, 1:46 PM [ in reply to He was not given that option according to him. ]

The first thing Dabo did when he became coach was fire Spence.

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I heard he turned down an offer to be a Chip N Dales dancer.***


Sep 14, 2011, 11:29 PM

!


Message was edited by: FootballFan36®


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looks like I got a hater/stalker or maybe someone isn't a


Sep 14, 2011, 11:34 PM

fan of Chip N Dale's.

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I gave you a thumbs down.


Sep 14, 2011, 11:39 PM

If you can't understand what all Tommy Bowden did for Clemson, you're a moron.

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There's something in these hills.


Favor returned. And I'm a jeanyus.***


Sep 14, 2011, 11:41 PM



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Oh no, not a thumbs down!


Sep 14, 2011, 11:43 PM

I see you graduated in 03. Good to know Clemson's raised it's standards since then.

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There's something in these hills.


Good to see you think so highly of yourself.***


Sep 14, 2011, 11:44 PM



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No, I just think that much of you.***


Sep 15, 2011, 8:03 PM



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There's something in these hills.


ditto, kiddo.***


Sep 15, 2011, 8:08 PM



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absoluely... like him or not... TB did many great things


Sep 14, 2011, 11:41 PM [ in reply to I gave you a thumbs down. ]

for Clemson and was an outstanding ambassador for the University...

We haven't had any better in that regard

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"I've been working since I was 15 continually until now. I worked 40 hours a week at 15, when it wasn't even legal for 15 year olds to work that many hours."


You guys read way too much into my posts. I never said


Sep 14, 2011, 11:42 PM

anything bad about TD. Who wouldn't want to get an offer to be a Chippendale's dancer?


Message was edited by: FootballFan36® thanks to lfatboy for the correction

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who cares, his job is win fooball games, the rest is window


Sep 15, 2011, 12:32 AM [ in reply to absoluely... like him or not... TB did many great things ]

dressing. that's like repeatedly going to the same mechanic who never can fix the car's problems, but he sure does wash and wax it well before you pick it up.

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Re: I heard he turned down an offer to be a Chip N Dales dancer.***


Sep 14, 2011, 11:57 PM [ in reply to I heard he turned down an offer to be a Chip N Dales dancer.*** ]

Chippendales are dancers, Chip N Dales are rescue ranger chipmunks and neither pay as much as coaching!

:)

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haha woops, guess I should have done my Male Exotic Dancer


Sep 14, 2011, 11:59 PM

company homework.

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Re: Football Update: Bowden has turned down jobs since Clemson


Sep 14, 2011, 11:33 PM

we should have let him go to Ark. JB / TDP blew that situation

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TB was bluffing and the job was never offered which was


Sep 15, 2011, 12:25 AM

reported before Barker ordered TDP to give TB whatever he wanted. TDP was going to call TB's bluff, but that buffoon Barker demanded TDP keep TB. Barker is way too involved in the AD and micromanaging TDP. Just like Dabo is too involved in our offense.

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Re: Football Update: Bowden has turned down jobs since Clemson


Sep 15, 2011, 12:23 AM

honestly would yall rather have mark richt during that time frame.

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Richt has won an SEC title, we haven't even won an ACC title***


Sep 15, 2011, 12:26 AM



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Re: Football Update: Bowden has turned down jobs since Clemson


Sep 15, 2011, 12:30 AM

i think both are #### good coaches. maybe they were just to loyal to their oc and dc.

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both are average coaches. if you can't hire and fire well


Sep 15, 2011, 12:42 AM

then you suck at one of the most important parts of the job. d@mn good coaches win games and put good, well coached, well disciplined teams on the field. TB nor Dabo have come close to doing that. You folks can't objectively separate your personal feelings towards these men when judging their coaching abilities. I don't have that problem because I don't get hung up on the personal aspects. I could care less. I want coaches that win with integrity and graduate players. other than that, i could care less because the rest doesn't really matter and isn't in the job description. i'm a bottom line kind of guy, most of you are too hung up on the warm n fuzzy BS that doesn't have anything to do with winning.

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It's COULDN'T care less. COULDN'T! Why is that so hard


Sep 15, 2011, 1:02 AM

for so many people to understand? COULD care less implies that you care some, at least enough that it is possible for you to care less than you already do. COULDN'T care less means that you care so little that you cannot care any less than you already do.

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settle down, I think people imply that they could care...


Sep 15, 2011, 12:05 PM

less----but don't. Myself, I couldn't care less.

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At least bowden knew how to whip the coots***


Sep 15, 2011, 6:48 AM



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I always had this feeling Tommy didn't like coaching


Sep 15, 2011, 7:20 AM

Don't know why...but I doubt he will get another job coaching.

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I think he was doomed the minute he said..


Sep 15, 2011, 1:06 PM

"ya'll must have given me Tommy West's jacket".

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He looked like an ad for Rolaids while on the sidelines


Sep 15, 2011, 1:32 PM [ in reply to I always had this feeling Tommy didn't like coaching ]

during a game. He just never looked comfortable during a game. Maybe I read too much into it, but I always thought he looked confident until the game and suddenly he looked nervous.

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Re: Football Update: Bowden has turned down jobs since Clemson


Sep 15, 2011, 7:34 AM

CTB owned UCS :)

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At least until his $4M Clemson buyout is finished. Six years***


Sep 15, 2011, 7:39 AM



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"Anybody that says Coach Brownell is the best coach to come through Clemson is going to start an argument." -JP Hall


wish it worked out - Spence doomed him, Koenning was good***


Sep 15, 2011, 8:34 AM



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Re: Football Update: Bowden has turned down jobs since Clemson


Sep 15, 2011, 10:25 AM

North Carolina would be the perfect fit, I think.

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I'm going to refrain from comment here***


Sep 15, 2011, 8:05 PM



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Re: I'm going to refrain from comment here***


Sep 15, 2011, 8:23 PM

Thank god

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