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All-TigerNet [13888]
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Well Spoken Young Man
Apr 26, 2012, 10:24 AM
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this phrase is NEVER attached to white guys. I say that, as a white guy. Interesting that it's only applied to black athletes.
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why do they always compare white basketball players
Apr 26, 2012, 10:26 AM
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to other white basketball players? this seems racist to me.
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True! All good white bball players are
Apr 26, 2012, 10:27 AM
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Larry Bird or Pete Merevich, or maybe John Stockton
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Re: True! All good white bball players are
Apr 26, 2012, 10:28 AM
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and they all "hustle" or have "high basketball IQ's"
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Why are all white wide receivers compared to Wes
Apr 26, 2012, 10:29 AM
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Welker?
This is some rampant racism going on here in this country.
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White people are assumed to be well-spoken.
Apr 26, 2012, 10:29 AM
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Duh.
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that was a well-spoken post
Apr 26, 2012, 10:30 AM
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you must be white
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Orange Blooded [3573]
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I hear that about a number of articulate young people.
Apr 26, 2012, 10:31 AM
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Its generally applied to people that speak above their expected maturity level not really race. I've interviewed new college grads for jobs and one of the draw backs is when they "sound young" with a bunch of "you knows" or chuckles after making a point.
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Re: I hear that about a number of articulate young people.
Apr 26, 2012, 10:55 AM
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IPTAY, Your point takes nothing away from the original point. In your experiences that may be why you and those you know do it but to the original point as well as the others that followed, 100% true in my experiences. A black guy that is a great passer, rebounds well and is a very god shooter will NEVER be compared to Bird. A black left tacke in football is never compared to a white one, even if they have duplicate talents and strengths.
To the well spoken comment. NOT because of expected maturity level with respect to SPORTS. Unfortunately, in the past it SEEMS that many young black athletes do not speak well. This perception becomes reality so when you see a kid that defies PERCEPTION, it brings those comments. Sometimes innocently because depending on who's interviewed, we may see a lot of poorly spoken black kids in a short span of time creating the perception.
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I understand your point
Apr 26, 2012, 12:29 PM
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and agree that it does end up with expectations. But I don't see that the expectations boil down just to the race of the speaker.
I would say Donnovan McNabb was well spoken. I would say that Peyton Manning sounds like a blubbering horse when he talks.
I would say that RG3 is well spoken. I would say that Andrew Luck sounds like a 15 year old (at least in the segment with Gruden).
Sammy Watkins is well very articulate for an 18-22 year old. He knows what to say, how to say it and more importantly when to shut up. I would have sounded like a incoherent boob if I was on TV when I was 18. And athletic ability isn't the only thing we don't have in common if you know what I mean!
And I get that white WRs are called possession receivers and black QBs that can run are called Running QBs. A 300lb black guy is going to be tried on the defensive line and a 300lb white guy is going to be offense first. Back in the 90s Westside had a good black QB and a fast as lightening white WR. On recruiting trips the black guy was funneled to the WRs and the white guy was sent with the QBs. Trust me, I understand that.
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Re: Well Spoken Young Man- you never hear this when
Apr 26, 2012, 10:46 AM
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referring to mimes even though they all paint their faces white.
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When did people forget the word "articulate"? Never use
Apr 26, 2012, 11:18 AM
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two words when one will do.
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Re: When did people forget the word "articulate"? Never use
Apr 26, 2012, 2:21 PM
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My views do not coincide with yours on this particular topic of discussion......
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NOT true
Apr 26, 2012, 11:19 AM
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Had a boss say that about me once. So there.
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In fact, most of Tnet thought Boyd was a Woody Dantzler
Apr 26, 2012, 11:21 AM
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type scrambler. Black QB = scrambler. White QB = Elway
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This country has a serious double standard issue***
Apr 26, 2012, 11:23 AM
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Anybody ever watch "The League"
Apr 26, 2012, 11:52 AM
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Stereotypes all sports reporters, analysts, or commentators like to use:
Class act: A term used by sports commentators and society to refer to the black coach, e.g., Tony Dungy.
Firecracker, spark plug: The Latino athlete, as referred to by the sports commentators or personalities
Gym rat, scrappy player: The white athlete, e.g., Wes Welker
Inscrutable player: The Asian athlete
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Well, you know!***
Apr 26, 2012, 12:58 PM
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You may be wrong.
Apr 26, 2012, 1:48 PM
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If you ever heard comments about the Michigan St. QB (Cousins), that's one of the first things most people notice, and say. And I think that they're correct. And yes, he's caucasian.
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"He was a handsome, athletic, well spoken,
Apr 26, 2012, 2:18 PM
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delightfully polite and liked young man.
A law student, psychology major, very hardworking volunteer for the Republican Party and a possible future state candidate for Governor and even President."
Instant Messenger author, Benoit Akoa describing some white dude named Ted Bundy.
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Very True And Ted Bundy
Apr 26, 2012, 11:49 PM
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could charm the pants off of many women and he did -- just before he killed them.
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