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Orange Blooded [3195]
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Just listen to Dr.Faucci say that we need to
Mar 20, 2020, 3:43 PM
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test chloroquine and or hydrochloroquine?Said to see if safe and that it works.Thought it has been around since the thirties?If it is safe,what do we have to lose?
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Re: Just listen to Dr.Faucci say that we need to
Mar 20, 2020, 3:44 PM
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What if it isn't safe?
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He explained his position quite clearly...
Mar 20, 2020, 3:52 PM
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Despite any hope he has, feelings have to be set aside in favor of data. He's aware of its' past uses/successes, but the results on hand were outside of any consistent application. The media was trying to pound a wedge between him and the President today...and the doctor put everyone in their place. His point is, this is a new virus...there may be a variable within that causes more harm than good. Likely? Probably not, but it's not his/the medical professions job to handicap...they want significant data.
People get rather glib with their responses to these issues...that's not good, either.
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Re: He explained his position quite clearly...
Mar 20, 2020, 3:55 PM
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Exactly.
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I cannot believe you actually think that
Mar 20, 2020, 5:14 PM
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Trump has no clue what he is talking about and Dr Fauci has to correct him at every turn. Nothing in this world scares me more than someone who supports Trump. He along with Fox News has turned so many people into zombies that can't think for themselves.
I honestly believe Trump could commit any conceivable evil act, and Trump fans would find a way to rationalize it. Never in my life have I seen anything like this. Very similar to when Hitler came to power. People could no longer see things realistically, and would rationalize everything he did.
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Re: I cannot believe you actually think that
Mar 20, 2020, 5:28 PM
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I wonder if we can get past this blind hatred for anyone and get through this as a country united?Sure hope so.I really believe if someone on the left or the right cured cancer,one half of the country or the other would find fault with it.
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Some folks just can not accept reality
Mar 20, 2020, 5:28 PM
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Comparing our President to Hitler is idiotic at best. You can't be supportive in this crises shows that you don't care about others. Stay locked up and shut up. Negativism is not welcome.
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your president, not mine. I’m actually volunteering
Mar 20, 2020, 6:20 PM
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At a local food bank trying to get food to people in need. The sooner Trump is gone the stronger this country will be. Bottom line. He fuels division, lacks accountability and is a narcissist. Leaders bring people together and get the most out of each other. I would take a level headed intelligent responsible republican in a heartbeat over Trump.
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Re: your president, not mine. I’m actually volunteering
Mar 20, 2020, 6:38 PM
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He fuels division?Apparently some stick their head in the sand when Shumer,Schiff and Pelosi open their mouths.We might even have had a more proactive jump start on this without the impeachment nonsense that never had a chance to remove DJT from office.Beginning to think there are some on here who would be in favor firing Dabo if he were a republican.Unreal.
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Pelosi held up the bill to provide money to save lives
Mar 21, 2020, 12:16 PM
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TRYING TO GET MONEY TO TAKE LIVES!!! Now just think about that for a minute.
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Except that’s not true
Mar 22, 2020, 6:29 PM
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Don’t bash MSM while you blindly believe the other side of MSM
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Re: your president, not mine. I’m actually volunteering
Mar 20, 2020, 8:26 PM
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Like him or not he is our President buddy. I'm not a huge fan but he still is our President. He is not all bad. He certainly has some major flaws tho ofcourse. He means good when it comes to our country tho that is clear to see.
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Re: your president, not mine. I’m actually volunteering
Mar 20, 2020, 8:28 PM
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What does that even mean? Who HASN’T “meant good” when it’s come to the country as president? What do you have to be to not fit this description, an undercover spy?
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Re: your president, not mine. I’m actually volunteering
Mar 20, 2020, 8:45 PM
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People act like he is the devil or something. He isn't bad in many ways but he isn't as bad as some make him out to be and he is our President.
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Re: your president, not mine. I’m actually volunteering
Mar 20, 2020, 8:50 PM
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He isn’t the devil, he’s just a moron and oblivious narcissist. He lives in his own little world and avoids facts.
Dude literally said that he knew this was a pandemic months ago... as if there aren’t cameras pointing at him all the time when he’s said the complete opposite multiple times
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Re: your president, not mine. I’m actually volunteering
Mar 21, 2020, 12:12 PM
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Moron? How many morons are that wealthy? Do you characterize everyone you disagree with as a moron?
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I would define a moron as someone who would give 150 Billion
Mar 21, 2020, 12:19 PM
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dollars to a country that took Americans as hostages. To a country that has bred terrorists. I would define a narcissist as someone who would say,"I don't need Congress, I have a phone and I have a pen".
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The dude lies so much that he cant keep up with them
Mar 22, 2020, 12:15 AM
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and taken together, they often don't make sense, as happens with multiple lies. For weeks he called it a remake of the impeachment, a democrat hoax, then it was that we were at fifteen cases and would soon be to zero.... then he says he always knew it was a pandemic, (so if he always knew it ,then why didn't he act on it ? _ Now he says he wish China would have told him sooner. One lie after the other. Whatever spur of them moment comment he can think of that he feels serves him best at the moment is what he says, without any regards to truth.
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Re: your president, not mine. I’m actually volunteering
Mar 21, 2020, 1:15 PM
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Finally, a voice of reason on this board. The Hitler comparison is spot on. Trump hates democracy and the constitution, and wants to be king. He is a pathological liar, a white supremacist, and an ego maniac. Between he, Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, this country will be unrecognizable if that orange sack of s..t gets another 4 years. Thank you TD Tigers for voicing your correct opinion.
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Re: your president, not mine. I’m actually volunteering
Mar 23, 2020, 4:34 PM
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Examples please !!!! He is far from a racist more blacks and people of color have jobs vs anytime in history. You need to check your dems when it comes to the constitution. Gun , free speech and on and on. Let’s not forget the biggest lie ever told to the people of the USA. If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor
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Re: your president, not mine. I’m actually volunteering
Mar 21, 2020, 1:24 PM
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Well Trump will be President for 4 more years and then maybe you can live in a socialists utopia. wait, you can go to Venezuela and live in one now. Trump is what this country needed and has done an amazing job despite any help from career politicians.
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Re: your president, not mine. I’m actually volunteering
Mar 22, 2020, 6:12 PM
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IMO the media fuels division. Anyone elected with a R behind their name automatically becomes the boogie man. Talk about thinking for yourselves.
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Re: your president, not mine. I’m actually volunteering
Mar 22, 2020, 6:23 PM
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Based on your opinion and criticisms of Trump, you're not intelligent enough to recognize and intelligent level-headed person when he's on your television set.
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i don’t believe idiotic comments from our leftist deadbeats
Mar 20, 2020, 6:10 PM
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Get a grip. Those of us with at least half a brain despised Obama as much as you despise Trump. Let that sink in.
Yet we didn’t try to call all you zombies names on TigerNet or hardly any other median.
You love socialism/communism - I love capitalism and freedom. We are different so just get over yourself.
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There are a lot of lifelong Republicans that have never
Mar 20, 2020, 6:36 PM
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liked Donald Trump. I'm one of them, over 40 years a Republican voter. The irony is Trump has been a Democrat his entire life, until he ran against the awful Hillary Clinton. He does not share the values most Republicans have held dear for decades.
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Re: There are a lot of lifelong Republicans that have never
Mar 20, 2020, 7:34 PM
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He is not an ideology centric politician. We agree on that. I realize you don’t lie his style but frankly that is irrelevant in his position.
But he IS much more conservative in his policies than any Republican since Reagan. He holds mostly conservative values, which the RINOs left by the wayside many years ago.
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I don't like the lies. He can't help himself. Most of it
Mar 21, 2020, 11:58 AM
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comes from his lack of preparation before speaking. If he is reading off the tele prompter, and doesn't stray from the prompter, he is fine. When he ad libs is when he gets in trouble.
I like Pence. He does a good job and is prepared when he goes to the podium. I would have no problem with Pence as President.
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That would be the majority of all college graduates,
Mar 22, 2020, 6:36 PM
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plus the vast majority of teachers, doctors, lawyers, scientists, and advanced-degree engineers.
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Re: That would be the majority of all college graduates,
Mar 23, 2020, 12:16 AM
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Well that explains why our country is over 20 trillion dollars in debt, is unprepared for a virus outbreak after 30 years or more of movies and books about it, hardly anyone can afford basic medical care without a subsidy from their employer or the government, has scores of millions of unpaid college debt, and has a two-tiered justice system. I'd say all these college graduates are educated beyond their intelligence.
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Yes, Education bad. Ignorance good.
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Re: I cannot believe you actually think that
Mar 22, 2020, 6:19 PM
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Let me ask you a couple of questions. Do you think the COVID 19 was leaked by accident? Do you think this is really about health?
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Re: I cannot believe you actually think that
Mar 22, 2020, 6:40 PM
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I’m not a fan of Trump but comparing him to Hitler is ignorant. The truth is that too many of our politicians on both sides act like a bunch of antagonistic high school punks. They all need to stop with the childish swipes at each other and pull together for the best interest of the American people instead of constantly jockeying for power by swaying portions of the population with false narratives and manipulated information. And before you dig in to defend your group of politicians, whoever they are, your side does it too so don’t try and waste my time with political arguments. Let’s love and respect each other, pull together to unite and defeat this thing.
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Re: I cannot believe you actually think that
Mar 23, 2020, 2:09 PM
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Ah, as soon as anyone who thinks they have a brain starts comparing someone to Hitler, they show they really don't understand anything themselves. Take a deep breath, have another Prozac and go lay down.
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Re: I cannot believe you actually think that
Mar 23, 2020, 4:23 PM
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Hillter ??? No dumb ### that would be your dems dividing the country. What has Trump tried to take from us ??? The dems hate guns and free speech. That is the hitler way you moron
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Re: Just listen to Dr.Faucci say that we need to
Mar 20, 2020, 3:53 PM
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I can’t answer that only to say that the hydrocholoquine is safe.I guess more side effects with chloroquine?I mean that it had been used for long time to treat malaria.I certainly respect Dr.Faucci and by no means do I think I am an expert.Just asking.
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My apology...don't want you to think I was judging your post
Mar 20, 2020, 3:57 PM
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I wasn't. I had just seen some of the 'news' from the press conference, which I had watched. What was reported, headline-wise, was far removed from what was actually discussed.
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Those medications have been around for decades.
Mar 20, 2020, 8:53 PM
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We know what we are dealing with when it comes to proper dosing and side effects. Given the severe disease in patients who are elderly and/or immune compromised, using these old drugs which have shown some promise against COVID-19 seems like a no brainer.
Just out of curiosity, how would you feel about a COVID-19 vaccine? It would likely have limited evidence for efficacy and no evidence for long-term safety.
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DMHO was safe for horses too, not so sure
Mar 20, 2020, 3:51 PM
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for some of the Jacka$$es here on T-Net.
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Deep State Media and their cohorts are in slow down cure
Mar 20, 2020, 4:08 PM
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mode. Their projections have fell on their face. Dr Fear doesn't matter, DJT will sign an EO that allows drug to be used under "compassion" clause and sick people will get their treatment.
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Re: Deep State Media and their cohorts are in slow down cure
Mar 20, 2020, 4:52 PM
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I suspect you are correct, donald will ignore the science and the experts and play Dr and make a reckless move. Mostly to satisfy the " deep state media" loonies. Makes me feel so safe!!!
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If you are dying, why not try?***
Mar 20, 2020, 4:57 PM
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That IS the bottom line... My choice.***
Mar 20, 2020, 5:09 PM
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Re: Deep State Media and their cohorts are in slow down cure
Mar 20, 2020, 6:10 PM
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People are dying and the treatment has had pretty good success in France and NY hospitals, but you cant recognize that because of your TDS. Dr. Fauci even said he has good feelings about it but he cant take a professional opinion until all the data is available.
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Re: Deep State Media and their cohorts are in slow down cure
Mar 20, 2020, 8:29 PM
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Maybe because 2x the daily dosage will kill you?
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Re: Deep State Media and their cohorts are in slow down cure
Mar 21, 2020, 12:23 PM
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You have a PHD? How the #### did you pass? 2x the daily dosage? 2000mg is not 2x the daily dosage. Any drug of 2000mg would probably kill you including Tylenol.
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Little extreme reaction there. Calm down.
Mar 22, 2020, 4:09 PM
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He was probably referring to the patient in China who died from a 2X dose.
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They are most likely needed to know the max dosage...
Mar 20, 2020, 6:02 PM
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according size, weight and sickness of the patient. What's too much, what's not enough are two questions which need to be determined and then figure out exactly how much when this is over.
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Re: Just listen to Dr.Faucci say that we need to
Mar 20, 2020, 8:49 PM
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It has been used as a treatment for RA and malaria among other things. It has not been tested and approved for this virus by the FDA. It is approved in other countries. It can be used under Trumps “right to try “but most doctors are scared of lawsuits to use it without the approval. I read it is being used in NY.
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Here are better articles than most
Mar 20, 2020, 10:08 PM
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https://www.livescience.com/chloroquine-coronavirus-treatment.html https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is caused by a newly discovered coronavirus (SARS-CoV). No effective prophylactic or post-exposure therapy is currently available. We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations. Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection. In addition, the indirect immunofluorescence assay described herein represents a simple and rapid method for screening SARS-CoV antiviral compounds.
People were trying to push it as an HIV treatment 30 years ago. Good results in a petri dish with SARS-Cov in 2005. Some anecdotes now.
They are immunosuppressants, so you have to be careful. From what I can gather, this hype started with a tweet from a statistician who hasn't finished his MS.
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It is basically the ingredient in tonic water, though.
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Re: Here are better articles than most
Mar 21, 2020, 12:19 PM
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I'll believe it when I see the data. I have more faith in the nucleoside analogs, because I can understand the mechanism of action much more clearly. They are being studied as well.
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Re: Just listen to Dr.Faucci say that we need to
Mar 21, 2020, 9:56 PM
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When between 1 gram and 2 grams a day of anything can kill you and more than 2 grams will kill you, a few tests to ensure it's viable is warranted.
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