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When will Trump allow witnesses and documents that exonerate
Jan 16, 2020, 3:24 PM
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him? So far, nothing.
Anybody?
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Two things
Jan 16, 2020, 3:35 PM
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One thing
Jan 16, 2020, 3:54 PM
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Trump is screwing America like a cheap w h o r e, laying waste to our laws and our values. Those that look the other way, go along with, or even defend are just as culpable. We, as a people, would've have never tolerated this from any previous president. Whether one year or five more, I look forward to the day that he and his filth leave the WH.
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Re: One thing
Jan 16, 2020, 4:54 PM
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"We, as a people, would've have never tolerated this from any previous president"
I'd be willing to bet that we have, probably more than once, and just didn't know it.
The biggest positive and negative for trump is that he is an outsider. I think any of this being done by an insider it would be much better managed.
I'm not going full blown tin foil hat and making suggestions of who, what and when. I just think we are being naive to think that politicians and presidents past present and future aren't engaged in some shenanigans.
Does Hunter Biden get that sweet spot on the board in Ukraine without daddy?
Does W get to become president on his own merit without daddy?
Look what celebrities were willing to do to get their kids into colleges, and you think politicians and presidents aren't willing to do more?
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Ah, the old "everybody does it" defense.
Jan 16, 2020, 5:00 PM
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I have heard that a lot from my Republican friends.
No, everybody doesn't do it. Many politicians have much more character. Trump has none.
Everybody knows Trump is a corrupt POS. Even you.
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Re: Ah, the old "everybody does it" defense.
Jan 16, 2020, 5:20 PM
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Do you think President Trump is more corrupt than, sat, the candidate he ran against for the presidency?
hmmmm
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This is such a bizarre...take. I don't like Hillary, didn't
Jan 16, 2020, 7:16 PM
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vote for her, and I think in all likelihood, she's a real life POS. But what corruption has she been convicted of? Give us the list. We heard for years how corrupt the Clinton Foundation was, but nothing ever came of those investigations. Benghazi was investigated seven, SEVEN times, by bipartisan and partisan committees, and nothing was found, but people are still 1000% convinced that she's guilty of...something. The Uranium One investigation was quietly closed last week after 2 years. Guess why it was so quiet? Yep. Tell us about Email-Gate! Comey reopening the investigation a week before the election likely cost her the Presidency, but seriously, the Deep State is REAL, guys!
Speaking of foundations, which of Trump and Hillary's has been charged with fraud and misuse of funds, paid fines, and had all of his children (except Barron) attend mandatory classes on HOW NOT TO STEAL FROM CHARITIES?
Again, I'll reiterate: Hillary is likely the POS everybody thinks she is, but offer us a shred of proof that she's anywhere near as corrupt as Trump's long and storied history prior to being President.
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live shot of Hunt and other cultists...
Jan 16, 2020, 9:35 PM
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Re: This is such a bizarre...take. I don't like Hillary, didn't
Jan 17, 2020, 9:48 AM
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People tend to get up in this right wing narrative about her that has no basis in fact.
I don't agree that she is a POS. She seems like a decent human being to me. Unlike the current occupant who is corrupt to his core, who has no character whatsoever and has no ability to see beyond his own self interest. The Constitution and The Law serve only to restrain his adversaries and opponents, not him.
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Re: Ah, the old "everybody does it" defense.
Jan 20, 2020, 10:01 PM
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Do you think President Trump is more corrupt than, sat, the candidate he ran against for the presidency?
hmmmm
Probably not. The Clintons were bent as a dog's hind leg and despite the fact that the Dems allegedly "won" when Slick Willy wasn't convicted in the Senate it bit them hard...twenty years later, the GOP is still using "but the Clintons!" as their go-to Whataboutism defense. The Dems were absolute idiots to then try and walk Hillary out - who had all of the Clinton baggage and none of Slick Willy's charm and winning smile - and they got exactly what they deserved, which was to lose a thoroughly winnable election.
You want to claim moral authority, stop backing guys like this just because he's "your" guy. Or girl.
Of course, the Dems are about to do it again with Joe Biden, yet another professional politician with a winning smile and no particular moral conviction...and of course, a laundry list of baggage of his very own, starting with young son Hunter, who is at the very least a total waste of human flesh that the Republicans willy gleefully beat Poppa Joe over the head with. And the Dems - who really do excel at losing - are walking straight into that canyon ambush while everybody who desperately wants Trump out is watching with a brown paper bag over their heads.
Still, that's run-of-the-mill political corrujption. Trump obliterates that mark; he's the kind of guy third-world nations usually elect as president and then discover he's trying to appoint himself Dictator For Life while looting the country to the walls. And who says the modern GOP is against globalism?
Why can't we just vote out all the scumbags again? Spotting decent people really isn't all that hard.
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its not a defense.
Jan 16, 2020, 9:11 PM
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More of an observation.
I don’t think it’s okay because everyone else has done it, I just think it’s naive to think this is the first.
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even more reason to try and stamp it out when you find it***
Jan 16, 2020, 5:01 PM
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Get real fluff, HB ain't runnin' a country, he's just a guy
Jan 16, 2020, 6:25 PM
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that likes booze, drugs, and strippers that's gotta famous Daddy to cash in on. He don't count and he's not even remotely in the same ballpark as W. W might've liked booze, coke, and strippers as a younger man...but he matured. Dubya had character that could be redeemed and he did so. Sure, having H. W. for a Dad helped him politically, but he was genuinely a guy that cared about his country more than himself. Dubya understood servant leadership, so did Obama...and both were greatly humbled by the office they held.
Trump couldn't even spell servant leadership, could not comprehend the importance of anything greater than himself. Don't make excuses for that POS, condemn him like you would anyone else that acted that way.
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Re: Get real fluff, HB ain't runnin' a country, he's just a guy
Jan 21, 2020, 7:53 AM
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you know that Trump doesnt drink, nor been linked to any kind of drugs.....right?
old Slac Tiger
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Pedophilia was his vice... but he grew out of it, right?***
Jan 21, 2020, 10:59 AM
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All-TigerNet [11196]
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Doesn't diminish the fact that
Jan 21, 2020, 12:24 PM
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he is a s h i t b a g of a person. He's got the hoaring around thing covered, tho.
He's bankrupted more companies that you and I can count, some on purpose (who the F bankrupts a casino built with muni bonds?), he's a habitual and unrepentant liar, all the while bragging about everything including the size of his weiner. Why do you like a guy like that? If he worked for you, and he does, you'd fire his a s s.
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No, the biggest negative for Trump is that he is an incompetent a$$hole.***
Jan 16, 2020, 9:13 PM
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Re: One thing
Jan 16, 2020, 5:18 PM
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Just enjoy the ride. I'm sure it is better than the one you would have gotten with the other presidential nominee.
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All-TigerNet [11196]
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I can only blame myself,
Jan 16, 2020, 6:30 PM
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I voted for the mothereffer, but hindsight being 20/20 I ain't gonna delude myself by thinking Hillary'd a been worse. Sure, she and Bill are dirty, but atleast she has the benefit of actually using her intellect and wouldn't have done all the stoopid shid Trump does.
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Re: I can only blame myself,
Jan 20, 2020, 9:41 PM
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She has the benefit of being able to hide shyt better than Trump. She learned at the knees of a master liar.
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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This the trial phase of the impeachment process. Witnesses
Jan 16, 2020, 3:57 PM
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will be called. That is going to happen. Can you imagine the political fallout for Senators that will result from NOT allowing witnesses or documents and the appearance of a sham trial by Senate Republicans? Unfortunately for you, in a trial, if no witnesses refute what other witnesses testify to, their testimony becomes fact.
My question to you is, will Trump's defense team propose any witnesses or provide any documentation to refute what numerous witnesses have testified to and what the non-partisan GAO reported was a crime or will they just offer more of the same?
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Re: This the trial phase of the impeachment process. Witnesses
Jan 16, 2020, 5:22 PM
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So, he has to produce a witness to refute hearsay? OK. I'm sure that won't be a problem.
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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Testimony of witnesses as to their conversations with Trump
Jan 16, 2020, 5:28 PM
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and the "transcript" that Trump released are not hearsay. The Senate is not a court of law.
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probably going to have to name a crime if you want the
Jan 16, 2020, 3:59 PM
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senate to convict
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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LOL!
Jan 16, 2020, 4:03 PM
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Did you just wake up?
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110%er [8984]
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home from werk silly boi***
Jan 16, 2020, 4:03 PM
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110%er [8984]
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now 'bout dem crimes
Jan 16, 2020, 4:04 PM
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got any?
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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You may want to check the front page of Fox News.
Jan 16, 2020, 4:06 PM
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Try to catch up on what you missed.
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110%er [8984]
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the GAO opinion?
Jan 16, 2020, 4:11 PM
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did they name the crime?
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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Yes.
Jan 16, 2020, 4:13 PM
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They did.
Not surprised you're having such a hard time finding it.
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still opinion
Jan 16, 2020, 4:17 PM
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pelosi should look into it
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You could just read the article.***
Jan 16, 2020, 4:14 PM
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"Faithful execution of the law does not permit the President
Jan 16, 2020, 4:15 PM
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to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law," the opinion said. "[The Office of Management and Budget] OMB withheld funds for a policy reason ... not a programmatic delay. Therefore, we conclude that the OMB violated the ICA [Impoundment Control Act]."
OMB disagrees, for obvious reasons. It makes them look bad.
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UNLESS it's immigration. The the President can choose
Jan 16, 2020, 4:17 PM
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whatever in the #### he wants to ignore.
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Oculus Spirit [97719]
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Or Obamacare. Can make exceptions for whoever he wants
Jan 16, 2020, 4:23 PM
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Or drug laws. They can selective ignore enforcing those in states that want legal pot.
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I didn't realize the GAO had law enforcement powers.
Jan 16, 2020, 4:21 PM
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Those sneaky Dems.
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Other than the opinions of the accused, what would you
Jan 16, 2020, 4:27 PM
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point to to refute the statement by the GAO?
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110%er [8984]
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have not read the act, but looks like opinion vs opinion
Jan 16, 2020, 4:30 PM
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“We disagree with GAO's opinion," OMB spokesperson Rachel Semmel said. "OMB uses its apportionment authority to ensure taxpayer dollars are properly spent consistent with the President's priorities and with the law."
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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and Mick Mulvaney said everything was hunky dory.
Jan 16, 2020, 4:36 PM
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So, there you have it.
Exonerated!
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Of course.
Jan 16, 2020, 4:37 PM
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The weight of the evidence is overwhelming.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Well those are both firsthand evidence
Jan 16, 2020, 4:40 PM
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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The transcript was not a transcript, but it was damning.
Jan 16, 2020, 4:53 PM
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I read it. Evidently you did not.
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A lot of hearsay is still hearsay.***
Jan 16, 2020, 5:11 PM
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The transcript and testimony of conversations with Trump
Jan 16, 2020, 5:23 PM
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are not hearsay. There was quite a bit of testimony that was first hand. Also, you seem to be suggesting that hearsay is not admissable in a court of law, which is false. This is also NOT a court of law. It's the Senate.
Hard to keep you guys in the truth lane.
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You're right. The standard should be even higher to
Jan 16, 2020, 5:28 PM
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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Including the transcripts, the evidence is overwhelming.
Jan 16, 2020, 5:32 PM
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But, we will hear from a few more witnesses and documents that Trump refuses to allow because he knows their testimony will further corroborate the testimony and transcripts.
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I hope you're not an attorney irl***
Jan 16, 2020, 5:57 PM
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Now that that talking point is gone, what say you?
Jan 16, 2020, 4:20 PM
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What does that say about your position? Still tenable?
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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Did you find it yet. Should be right at the top.
Jan 16, 2020, 4:11 PM
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The goal posts keep moving.
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Re: When will Trump allow witnesses and documents that exonerate
Jan 20, 2020, 7:16 PM
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“In interview I told @AP that my taxes are under routine audit and I would release my tax returns when audit is complete, not after election!”
- Donald Trump, May 11th 2016
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Re: When will Trump allow witnesses and documents that exonerate
Jan 20, 2020, 7:50 PM
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***damm you’re dumb
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Says the board idiot***
Jan 20, 2020, 7:59 PM
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It was a political fustercluck before he released the...
Jan 21, 2020, 5:24 PM
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transcript of the phone call but then after he released the transcript that continued. Dems vote guilty and pubs vote innocent. It made you quite happy when the house voted that way why are you so disappointed when the exact same thing happens in the senate?
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