Re: How Dabo Swinney's Christian Evangelism boosts Clemson recruiting-article

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Re: Tobias are you reading this?

Dec 22, 2019, 11:01 AM

Tobias, my suggestion is go do a little research on your question (or veiled concern) you are putting forth. Go research what Aaron Kelly (a four year starter under Dabo...right?) said about being a Jehovah’s Witness at Clemson. I’ll help you out. He was not mistreated or pressured or forced to be baptized in a horse trough at practice for goodness sake. He started four years because he was the best at his position. Atheists insist being a non-believer is not a religion, but it has always seemed to me they often want to do anything they can to prove Christianity is just a bunch of bunk, and force others to agree? If that’s the case just laugh at us crazy Christians and move on. Dabo is not pressuring players to be Christians. He is mentoring players on life and sharing what has worked in his life. You would have to be a dullard to think there would not be dozens of past non-believing players speaking out if they thought their religion, or lack thereof, caused them to be treated unfairly at Clemson by Dabo and staff? Dabo said he had coached bunches of atheists. You honestly think mistreated atheist players would not be speaking out often?

There are no gray areas here as you suggest and you know it. The anti-religion atheist groups like FFRF dayum well know it, but are all butt hurt they cannot do a thing about it. It is just my opinion that many atheists, not all, seem to focus more on being anti-Christian, and promoting that ideology, than protecting their freedom to be non-believers. FFRF and others would have Clemson and Dabo in court if he was doing anything to really violate separation. Dabo is promoting moral Christian values and responsibility with our team through who he is, and has every right to. Is it possible you are just uncomfortable and perhaps more worried about the fact your coach is a man of the living God than you are whether these players feel pressured to be Christian? Perhaps I am wrong. When Dabo says “only God can do this” he believes that 100% and so do I. Think about it. What if we are right Tobias? Merry Christmas and happy holidays!

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Tobias27772 said:

So, to you, fairness is some unreasonable liberal value ?

I think that says more about you than it does me.

The problem is the definition of fairness. It would seem some believe the only fair thing is a sterile environment where leaders hide their faith. The problem is when you turn off the light there is only darkness. These young men will be filled with something. It can be good or bad. The SOCUS got the establishment of religion wrong. We all agree that we do not want the gov forcing religion or a particular brand of religion on us. No one wants Dabo to play favorites based on the players perceived faith. On the other hand a religion is not established because Dabo lives his faith or has a voluntary bible study or faith based speakers. The standard is not that a player feels uneasy. The standard is if a coach plays favorites or forces a player to attend faith based functions. It is also comical that a certain faction wants to take freedom of religion to then extreme but believe the 2nd amendment can be compromised for the public. My view is they are both important.

My guess is a recruit knows who Dabo is and what to expect at Clemson so most/all are comfortable with the environment. It’s too bad folks aren’t concerned when Louisville provided hookers to recruits as they are when Dabo tries to instill positive values.

One parting thought, the article is clickbait meant to stir the passions of coot fans and the left. Nothing more as there is no new information in it. The clear tell is the inclusion of Newspring which is a dog whistle for coot conspiracy theorist.

How Dabo Swinney's Christian Evangelism boosts Clemson recruiting-article