Topic: How Can Anyone Think an 8-5 Auburn Team is Top 10
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How Can Anyone Think an 8-5 Auburn Team is Top 10

Posted: Feb 13, 2017 10:58 PM

Material Pre-Season? Top 20 Likely But ESPN FPI Has Them Like Top 5. Did They Have 5 Quality Losses or Something?

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Re: How Can Anyone Think an 8-5 Auburn Team is Top 10

Posted: Feb 13, 2017 11:02 PM

Do this every year...this will be your pre season top teams.

Auburn or LSU


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Re: How Can Anyone Think an 8-5 Auburn Team is Top 10

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 11:06 AM

You forgot FSU, but yes you are correct.


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Posted: Feb 14, 2017 11:15 AM

They've had Top 10 recruiting classes going back 5 years

Posted: Feb 13, 2017 11:08 PM

at least - plus the transfers they're always warm to that add some quality schputz at key positions. So the talent is there to warrant a premium position. I don't like their chances Week 2 FWIW.

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Mostly All That Talent is Negated By Garbage Coaching

Posted: Feb 13, 2017 11:20 PM

Ultimately They Being Overrated Helps Clemson For SOS, So I Guess I Shouldn't Complain

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Re: How Can Anyone Think an 8-5 Auburn Team is Top 10

Posted: Feb 13, 2017 11:10 PM

They are in the SEC. That is all that matters to ESPN.

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According to ESPN's "FPI"

Posted: Feb 13, 2017 11:15 PM

Louisville was ranked ahead of us last year even after we beat them. Their "FPI" is just a tool to help them sell their biased narrative. It has absolutely no bearing on who's a great team or who's not or which teams will beat the other. ESPN's "FPI" is about as legit as a poll from CNN.

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Posted: Feb 14, 2017 7:36 AM

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But but but but Chiznik left the cheats

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 12:15 AM

to go back to Awbern.....for family time.

Guess the Fedora kitchen got too hot for the grilled cheezer. What are the odds he gets a job there?

I give 2-5 for a buck...

Re: How Can Anyone Think an 8-5 Auburn Team is Top 10

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 4:27 AM

To be fair, their offense did start to click at the end of the year, and they are getting former Baylor QB Jarrett Stidham coming in which is a significant upgrade over last years hot mess.

Biggest issue is the defense with losses on Dline and LBs.

I can see them being top-10 if they can finally coach players up. I would say they are second in the SEC ahead of LSU ... but a significant gap from Bama.

Re: How Can Anyone Think an 8-5 Auburn Team is Top 10

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 8:29 AM

Good post uktiger1....

Stidham is actually really good. As a true freshman, he was forced into the starting role, with an injury to Baylor's starter. In three games, before he got hurt as well, he completed 51-of-81 passes for 934 yards, six touchdowns and two interceptions. Five of those incompletions were dropped passes, three were thrown away and four were batted at the line.

That's really good for a true freshman. I could see Malzahn tweaking the offense to look more like ours, and if Stidham stays healthy, Auburn could challenge for the SEC West.

Glad we have them in the Valley.

Re: How Can Anyone Think an 8-5 Auburn Team is Top 10

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 4:34 AM

I guess the same way a 5-7 auburn team played for the natty the following year last

Re: How Can Anyone Think an 8-5 Auburn Team is Top 10

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 6:04 AM

*0-0 Auburn team .

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Re: How Can Anyone Think an 8-5 Auburn Team is Top 10

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 6:59 AM

SEC Speed

Preseason S&P+ has them 9th which really susrpised me

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 8:14 AM

I was expecting them to be back around 15, not top 10. I tend to value S&P+ a lot more than FPI so i consider this to be fairly valid.


PFF has them further back at #13 using their grades for returning players and some other stats.


PFF Article loses credibility

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 10:45 AM

when they can't even get the counts right in the line under the title. There are, in fact, 5 teams each from the SEC and Pac-12 but only 4 from the Big 12. The ACC does, however, have 5 teams in this poll. For the record, the Big 10 also has 4 while the AAC and the MWC have 1 each.

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The article also loses credibility by ranking USuC

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 10:54 AM

at 32. You've got to be kidding me. How is SC the 32nd best team right now based on last year's results. They beat one team with a winning record and strength of schedule about as bad as it gets.

SC should be somewhere between 70 and 80.

Re: Conclusion:

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 11:02 AM

Not many good teams outside top 15.

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36th in preseason S&P+ as well, but I'm pretty

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 12:17 PM

sure they are being overrated by their overrated 5 year recruiting average. I think we've seen over the last two seasons that many of their recruits either failed to meet expectations or just haven't been developed well at SC. The talent level in that program doesn't match the recruiting rankings.

I think Muschamp is elevating the talent level a bit, but to expect that team to jump from around 80th (where they've been the last two years), to the mid 30s is a bit much.

Heck, Bill Connelly did a podcast a few weeks back about Clemson and South Carolina and he pointed out the fact that Muschamp routinely under-performs based on his talent level. Aside from one season in 2012, he consistently took top 10 talent and put 25-35 level teams on the field. Based on that what do we really expect him to do with top 15-25 talent at SC (when the talent level gets back to that point)? Probably put a top ~40 product on the field. That's probably good for roughly 7-5 seasons on average and that's likely his ceiling at SC unless his coaching improves significantly.

I like the PFF player grades a lot, but I'm not sure how

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 11:18 AM

well they can be used to generate preseason rankings. I guess we will see.

This is their 2nd season without Muscoot

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 11:03 AM

It takes time to recover from crappy coaching so last year was basically a throw away year. This year they should be much improved.

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You forgot Georgia and Ten-er-see

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 12:01 PM

You left them off , Ten-er-see and Georgia are automatically top 10 every year they will get by the gumps .

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Posted: Feb 14, 2017 12:05 PM


September 9th. ... duh

Posted: Feb 14, 2017 12:28 PM

I posted a few weeks ago that espn will find a way to get auburn into the top 10 by the time they play clemson.

That is the ONLY reason they do these preseason polls.

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