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All-TigerNet [10612]
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Flu cases ..... and deaths.......
Apr 12, 2020, 10:54 AM
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Has this been brought up. It would certainly seem that with the social distancing and store closings that the number of flu cases would be dramatically down along with deaths. I wonder if you add up all of what would likely be a dramatic reduction of flu deaths with the Covid deaths, how closely would they add up to a normal flu season death rate. The number of cold virus illnesses should be down too.
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Re: Flu cases ..... and deaths.......
Apr 12, 2020, 11:02 AM
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I was wondering that myself.
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Re: Flu cases ..... and deaths.......
Apr 12, 2020, 11:12 AM
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I was thinking that if everyone did their part, and stayed indoors for an entire year, we could completely wipe Influenza and the common cold as well.
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Re: Flu cases ..... and deaths.......
Apr 12, 2020, 11:35 AM
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I'm not opposed to that. There really are hard data points on why Oregonians have much less viral illnesses and fewer"flu" deaths than most other states. Other factors contribute too but two things, it's considered more socially taboo to go to work sick, and they've been real progressive at letting peeps work from home. ... Mainly environmental but in c19, it's proven valuable,
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Wyoming --- still 0 COVID-19 deaths. ZERO***
Apr 12, 2020, 12:15 PM
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Do people still live in Wyoming?***
Apr 12, 2020, 2:47 PM
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Re: Do people still live in Wyoming?***
Apr 12, 2020, 3:50 PM
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The population is so dispersed over a huge area in Wyoming that unless you live in Cheyenne, odds are you practicing social distancing without even trying.
Wyoming is 3 times larger than SC and has 1/10th the population. The largest city, Cheyenne, has about 1/2 the population of Cootlumbia.
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Re: Do people still live in Wyoming?***
Apr 12, 2020, 5:20 PM
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I do. The 30 people here say hi.
JK
Where I live is about the size of Clemson, actually. Population density seems really similar. During tourist seasons it feels like when the students are in town and during off season like spring break. Right now, it feels like a ghost town.
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Is it possible that they're both being counted as one?
Apr 12, 2020, 11:20 AM
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IDK
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Re: Flu cases ..... and deaths.......
Apr 12, 2020, 11:27 AM
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Oh boy. Pet peeve of mine now. Sure they're down. We will probably never know but imo, here's the catch22 which ticks me off.
You can't get tested for c19 unless you're having some type of symptoms. So stats are showing that about 10% are testing positive... That leaves 90% that test negative, but but wait. If now 600,000 positive which represents 10% then almost 6 million are infected with some type of illness.... Let back into society to roam all over the place and go back to work. That's a heck of a lot of sick a$$ people infecting me with something!!!!
My pet peeves are peeps think they're so important that they have to come to work.
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Re: Flu cases ..... and deaths.......
Apr 12, 2020, 11:42 AM
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I have thought of things like this myself,but unfortunately it's a moot point. This(COVID 19) is entirely a totally different monster altogether. From what I have seem,heard read and discussed with others,there is no common bond between Coronavision and the flu.
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Re: Flu cases ..... and deaths.......
Apr 12, 2020, 1:28 PM
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It has nothing to do with a common bond. IT has to do with people staying home and practicing social distancing. We pick up the cold and flu virus the same way as we do Covid 19, although it may be more contagious. It would make sense that flu and colds would be way down!
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Re: Flu cases ..... and deaths.......
Apr 12, 2020, 11:43 AM
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that has been mentioned as a nice side effect of the crisis
Apr 12, 2020, 11:57 AM
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if people continue with measures begun in earnest now (hand washing, not hand shaking, etc.) we should see a decrease in season flu deaths going forward.
Right now we don't know. A lot of docs have said they had people die with "flu like illness" (ILI technically) before COVID-19 became a thing.
https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20200114/is-it-flu-or-flu-like-its-miserable-either-way
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Re: that has been mentioned as a nice side effect of the crisis
Apr 12, 2020, 1:40 PM
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Thanks for the link. If we are doing what we are supposed to with the social distancing ..... even half of us .... then there is no way the flu rate and deaths will not come down dramatically.
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Healthy people are going to get the virus. If not now, later
Apr 12, 2020, 2:12 PM
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That's how herd immunity works. And when the shelter in place is lifted, more people are going to catch it. All we are doing is prolonging it. Half the "experts" posting on this bored have probably already had it thinking they had the sniffles and fought it off.
It's not a death sentence to every human it comes into contact with as the media would have you believe. Of course we need to mitigate, but to what end?
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Re: Healthy people are going to get the virus. If not now, later
Apr 12, 2020, 2:50 PM
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To the end that those who wouldn't be able to " fight it off " won't die unnecessarily by the willful ignorance or callous irresponsibility of others ?
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600000 US babies couldn’t fight off their abortion in 2019.
Apr 12, 2020, 4:37 PM
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One difference here is the demographic at highest risk also holds the power to shut everything down to protect themselves. I believe their own internal fear has been at least a partial motivator. A frantic set of statistics that were calculated with a high margin of uncertainty were another. Of course, it is not all nefarious and self-serving; keeping the public safe is their job. Be well, everyone!
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Re: Healthy people are going to get the virus. If not now, later
Apr 13, 2020, 12:42 PM
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Excellent post Dug! This is what I don't quite understand and it is quite scary. This virus started by one person (I am assuming, but think it is right) contracting the virus. How they got is is not important for this discussion. From that one person, it has spread globally, infecting hundreds of thousands. Once we get it under control (or think we do), certainly there will be at least one or probably thousands that still have it, maybe not showing symptoms. Why could this not start all over again? Are we going to have to wait until a vaccine is developed before we can get back to normal?
No doomsday here, as I am optimistic, but some questions have to be answered. Do we quarantine older people in poor health and let it run its course? Lots of questions. I think I know the answer, but why as much as 18 months before a vaccine can be developed? I know testing takes a while, but it seems like much of the red tape can be waived and it can be expedited. Once a certain lab develops the vaccine can't they be rewarded handsomely by the government and the vaccine then become a "nationalized" so that every lab can produce it?
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