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Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 12:46 PM
 

him last time but his leadership has been amazing during this crisis.

Given the constraints, he and his team are doing great. Gives me hope that we can still achieve a lot of great things together as a country.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 12:56 PM
 

Don’t forget less than a month ago he was calling it a hoax and saying we had it under control- he cost us at least 5 weeks of time when nothing was being done. When he shut his mouth and started listening to smarter people, naturally he started looking better.


yeah. Hopefully your communist buddies

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 12:59 PM
 

In China will give you an award. Oh, nevermind, that is what the Democrats will do since there is virtually no difference.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 1:04 PM
 

People today blow my mind .


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 1:00 PM
 

Why repeat lies. He said the news coverage was saying he did not take it seriously and that was a hoax. I hope you are not one of these fools not following the guidelines because you hate him Your friends and neighbors deserve better. This is no time for politics.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 3:46 PM
 

At the 1:05 mark he calls it a new hoax but hey...why let the truth get in the way?

Listen to the whole video and if you still think he's handled this well...your not being honest.

https://twitter.com/jheil/status/1240056993290821640?s=09


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 4:09 PM
 

Firing the pandemic response team in 2018 doesn't look like such a good idea now.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 5:30 PM
 

If the Pandemic Response Team had been worth a ph uck we wouldn't have been caught unprepared. I guarantee they were all Deep State.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 5:52 PM
 

We don't have one.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 6:14 PM
 

Lol, so the pandemic response team isn't worth a ph uck during this crisis because it was disbanded in 2018?

No shhit sherlock.

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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 10:43 AM
 


If the Pandemic Response Team had been worth a ph uck we wouldn't have been caught unprepared. I guarantee they were all Deep State.




I was scanning this thread trying to ignore it, then I saw yours. I agree that people can choose to believe what they want to agree. But I don't agree that you can just make up facts. That is, unless you watch Fox News, they do it all the time. You have no idea who was on the Pandemic team and they'd sure have been handy to have. Further, in 2018 Trump cut the CDC budget and put in a hiring freeze. His budget proposal for 2020-2021 called for another $700 million cut to CDC. That was proposed before the outbreak.

Trump Administrations own CDC, NIH, HHS, State Department, Department of Defense in combination with 12 states ran a pandemic simulation beginning in Jan. 2019 through Aug. 2019. It showed that we were woefully unprepared for an infectious based pandemic. Hospital beds, ventilatiors, masks, gloves, medical supplies all would be depleted and needed to be stockpiled. This administration ignored it's own conclusions.

The National Intelligence Assessment in 2017,18 and 19 each warned the Trump Administration that we were not prepared for an air-born infectious Pandemic. Each ranked infectious disease spreads from Asia as one of the top threats to our national security. All 3 were ignored.

In mid February the World Health Organization offered the U.S. 1.6 million coronavirus test kits. We turned them down, we wanted to make our own. This was mid-February weeks after the first case in the U.S. was identified. The more test kits you have, the more infected you can identify and quarantine them. So far, since it started the U.S. has tested roughly 60,000. S. Korea has tested almost 300,000. S. Korea is roughly the size of Indiana.

Where are the test kits? Why don't we have them? Disease 101, test, test, test to prevent spread.

And no, Trump didn't 'stop all flights' from China. He restricted them with numerous exceptions. They ended piecemeal by the individual airlines.

Get the facts, forget the politics.

Support whatever politician you like, makes no difference. But the facts are easily found. The response to this virus has been horrific.

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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 11:08 AM
 

Keep in mind that senators on both sides of the isle were selling stock mid February. All the while expressing the virus was under control to the public. The swamp is still very much full!

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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 11:24 AM
 

Yep, so far 3 Reps, 1 Dem but the Dem is notable. Diane Feinstein is a senior Senator and has guided the Democratic Party nationally for decades. This was a huge betrayal. She needs to go just like the other 3.

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Perhaps you are right


Posted: Mar 20, 2020 3:43 PM
 

but in November the American people will re-elect over 95% of the incumbents right back into Congress.


No matter what politician I have ever supported...

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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 11:35 AM
 

I have disapproved of one thing or another. This president is never held accountable for ANYTHING from his supporters here. I do believe he could actually shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose his sycophantic base. Another thing he actually said along with calling the Corona Virus a hoax.. His rally attendants cheered him on -and that scene has not aged well has it?

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,” - Trump during his 2016 campaign. Let that sink in. This is our president.

You can hear straight from the horse's mouth the President of the United States downplaying COVID-19 from the beginning yet some people think he's responded well and like a leader? What?

This blind loyalty to a guy who lacks a moral compass and I am beyond blaming this "leader" for his ineptness. I blame the base, many of who are self-proclaimed "Christians". If you believe that one day you'll be judged then you'll have a lot of explaining to do when you're asked about your "socialism" rants, or looking the other way to the poor and sick.

I often wonder how Jesus would view healthcare as a human right. I can imagine many of you know even in your denial. In your heart of hearts you know.

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One thing I do know

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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 1:34 PM
 

Jesús would not vote for killing babies.


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 3:46 PM
 

What has that got to do with universal health care.


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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:28 PM
 

You support abortion??? Obama done all he could to kill heath care in the USA


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Posted: Mar 22, 2020 9:02 AM
 

I support abortion with restrictions ofcourse. A young teenager should be able to have am abortion once imo. A woman who is raped should certainly have the option. I understand people's religious stance on it but it shouldn't be decided by people just because of religion imo. Not everybody believes in the same thing and that is okay.


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 4:33 PM
 

what does that I have to do with health care?

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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:23 PM
 

Boom


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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 11:28 PM
 

Pathetic


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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 2:38 PM
 

Felix I really feel sorry for you.....you have no clue about determining fact from fiction, the truth from a lie, reality from fiction......you are so far off the deep end I want even try to reason with you about anything......really no need because it want matter with you......you are as CLUELESS as they come.....Go Tigers!!!!!!!


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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 11:26 PM
 

Idiot you are


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 6:00 PM
 

Nobody was fired they did not want to work for him.


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 3:46 PM
 

His administration did away with the Pandemic Reaction Team. These people left rather than be reassigned to some other area rather than the one they had spent their professional careers specializing in.


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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 6:08 PM
 

That is a lie. Here's the truth.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/16/no-white-house-didnt-dissolve-its-pandemic-response-office/%3foutputType=amp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/16/no-white-house-didnt-dissolve-its-pandemic-response-office/%3foutputType=amphttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/16/no-white-house-didnt-dissolve-its-pandemic-response-office/%3foutputType=amp


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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:26 PM
 

Sorry but your link doesn’t work. Just like the freaking Washington post


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 4:29 PM
 

Most people only see black and white. He is either godly or he is the devil. Maybe he is like most people and has some good and some bad. He does need to learn humility tho. He has zero of that. I do not hate him tho. He seems like he genuinely cares for America.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 6:13 PM
 

Agreed. He us from Queens and he acts like 99%0of people from there act.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 6:14 PM
 

Agreed. He us from Queens and he acts like 99%0of people from there act.


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 3:48 PM
 

He is for himself first and foremost. if you think that is like most people, then i would have to argue that we need to elect an extraordinary person to be President of the most powerful country on Earth.


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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 1:05 PM
 

I agree with you on that ofcourse. I think Obama was a much better person than Trump is.


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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:31 PM
 

Lol you are a fool


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 4:31 PM
 

Well all y’all talking crap about Trump all the time sure better not cash those $1000 dollar checks.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 5:12 PM
 

How is admitting what he said or saying that he never takes the blame for anything talking crap? I think he has been a very good president in some areas but not a good look for our country in some regards. I just have an open mind about him unlike most it seems. He does some great things but he also does some very bad things as well.


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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:11 AM
 

Do you want someone who has someone writing speeches for them to speak to the people or someone normal who is not perfect like all of us are talking? Regardless of that fact, he has done the most for the Country as a president. What other president didn’t pay themselves to help fix this mess? Look at how high the economy has been. There is a lot less people without jobs. He is actually one of the few presidents that is actually making a change that we the people can really see. You may not like his childish rants but with that being said he has actually made progress. You don’t have to love the guys attitude but at least respect and acknowledge that he has actually improved the country.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 5:44 PM
 

I have no issues with Trump. However, I’ve seen posts all over social media saying the same thing about not cashing the check if you hate Trump, and I think that’s a stupid argument.

I’m not a fan of Will Muschamp, and I think he sucks as a head coach. However, if he ever decided to send me a $1,000 check then I’d sure as heck cash it. I’d still think he’s a bad coach, but I don’t see how me cashing that check would mean that I’m not allowed to think that way.

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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 3:49 PM
 

Those checks will come from Congress (and OUR treasury), not Trump.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 6:21 PM
 

Get me a copy with the questions and full answer and we’ll talk about.


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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 11:25 PM
 

Wow ! Just wow! You take a bunch of statements out of context and string them together and call that proof! No context of what he says before or after those clips!
Let me guess you think socialism is a good idea. You for transgender athletic competition!
And you think Abortion is not murder.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 1:01 PM
 

And I guess you heard all of that on CNN?
He has done an excellent job cleaning up a mess he was left with.
You might as well get use to him for about 5 more years.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 2:01 PM
 

I don't think any of us thought it was going to be a big deal along with Trump. He thought it was no worse than the flu. He didn't call it a hoax but he certainly said he didn't think it was as big of a deal as it has turned out to be. He never takes blame for anything tho. I don't dislike him but it would be nice if he held himself accountable sometimes. He has done a great job tho recently.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 2:46 PM
 

We STILL don’t know how big of a deal it is.... because of China.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 2:56 PM
 

Well China seems to have gotten it under control but idk.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 2:59 PM
 

Where are you getting that news? Can't believe a word they've said for 150 years!


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 3:44 PM
 

Italy has passed them on total positives. Ofcourse we don't know if stats in any country are accurate or not.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 4:04 PM
 

China was welding the doors shut on apartments to keep the sick from getting out. Effective but barbaric way of reducing the numbers.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 4:30 PM
 

Yet people blame them for all of this.


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 8:02 AM
 

Well they were at fault. They took a month to put any measures in place and by that time the virus was already out. They tried to cover it up, and arrested those that blew the whistle.


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 11:21 AM
 

They are at fault but they didn't know this was going to spread like it did when they first found out about the virus.


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 3:53 PM
 

Jersey, I call bullyshit. Give me a link to confirm.


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 10:39 PM
 

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1703503427818


https://vt.co/news/videos-show-suspected-coronavirus-patients-dragged-from-homes/


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/06/warning-chinese-authoritarianism-is-hazardous-your-health/



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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 12:53 PM
 

Is China reporting accurate numbers?


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 3:51 PM
 

To which mess are you referring ?


He NEVER called the virus a hoax.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 1:08 PM
 

He called you dems a hoax.

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Re: He NEVER called the virus a hoax.


Posted: Mar 19, 2020 3:47 PM
 

He just compared it to the common cold.

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"Don’t forget less than a month ago he was calling it a hoax

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 2:35 PM
 

I’m sure he was taking it seriously. As the leader of this country he was doing his job and trying to prevent the panic that was eventually created by the media that has one agenda and that’s taking him down. He is doing an excellent job dealing with the virus. He is doing a fantastic job dealing with the media that is trying to blame him for something Mother Nature or the Chinese created.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 3:50 PM
 

I agree that he thought he was doing the right thing, but he hurt the cause acting like it was no big deal. I like the job he is doing now though.

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Who's actually panicking? Aside from buying too much


Posted: Mar 19, 2020 7:43 PM
 

TP how has everyone panicked? I think US citizens, as a whole, have responded rather calmly.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 3:49 PM
 

Jan 31, 2020 - Trump Declares Coronavirus A Public Health Emergency And Restricts Travel From China.

And the left and liberal press repeatedly calls him a racist for this. I guess the left would have kept letting travel from China occur. He is simply trying not to incite panic like the media had done. The left did nothing except badmouth your President. Trump is the only one in the government to make sure a plan is in place. Could he have done a better job? In hindsight there definitely was more that could have been done earlier. But he would have been blasted by the press for doing it. Surely you're smart enough to see this.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 6:12 PM
 

He did not call the virus a hoax. He called the media response a hoax. We have been working on this since it was first discovered in China. The blame lies with the Chinese for hiding the virus outbreak for over 2 months.


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 11:32 AM
 


He did not call the virus a hoax. He called the media response a hoax. We have been working on this since it was first discovered in China. The blame lies with the Chinese for hiding the virus outbreak for over 2 months.




Actually, he called the Coronavirus the Democrats new hoax after the 'Russia hoax and the Impeachment hoax'.... "now this (virus) is their new hoax".

Feb 28 at a rally. The tape has been played over and over, it's easy to find.

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No, he was calling the "Russia Collusion" a hoax...


Posted: Mar 19, 2020 8:52 PM
 

...which is what the Dim-ocrats had the entire country distracted with while the virus ran rampant...

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 9:15 PM
 

papa doc said:

Don’t forget less than a month ago he was calling it a hoax and saying we had it under control- he cost us at least 5 weeks of time when nothing was being done. When he shut his mouth and started listening to smarter people, naturally he started looking better.


He didn’t call the virus itself a hoax. He called the Democrats’ lies about his actions a hoax.


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 8:08 AM
 

And fired the pandemic team


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 4:56 PM
 

I think he's doing a great job too. I remember many a fine athlete who started a game struggling but make their adjustments and finished strong.


LOL...you got it completely wrong...


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 6:55 PM
 

He said the hoax is the dems are portraying him as doing little about the Corona situation. It is a hoax that he's doing little to nothing. Good gawd, quit watching the fake news where they turned it around to claim Trump said Corona is a hoax. That's just not consistent with his actions.

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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 7:55 PM
 

What was he doing in January and February then? Other than saying that everything is under control and that we would have zero cases very soon?


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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:19 PM
 

Not true. Your dems blast him a few weeks when he wanted to step ip


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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 11:20 PM
 

He did not say it was a hoax! He said the media was using it as a hoax to try and bring him down! That is exactly what they are doing!
He issued a travel ban 10 days after the first known case . The media and Joe Biden among others called him Xenophobic and racist for doing so but that Ban bought time and saved lives!!! Left wing media are all liars!


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 3:12 PM
 

We can beat this Kung flu


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 12:53 PM
 

It was a shaky start...but response of late has been positive IMO...and I am not a fan of his by any means.

Like the idea of stimulus to individuals and forbidding stock buy backs as condition of taxpayer assistance to corporations.


And, how this all works out will determine if he wins or loses in NOV..

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 1:50 PM
 

imho.

Saying, ironic this virus may help Dems put their candidate (JoeB) into office due to a probable recession especially since people vote with their wallets.

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There have certainly been missteps as Fauci has admitted..

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 2:07 PM
 

but the first thing he did, and was criticized roundly for it and even called a racist, was halt incoming travel from China. How does that move look now? He can always go back to that whenever they criticize his handling of this situation.

Of course, I will mostly give and any other leader a pass right now as this is completely new territory with too many unknowns to have all the right answers.


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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 10:52 AM
 

The democrats have backed off the comments they made about flights from China since the WHO said it was the right thing to do and probably saved lives in the USA.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 2:23 PM
 

Be thankful Hillary was not the POTUS. She would have "built a bridge" from China to America and welcomed all of their sick patients with open arms (provided China make a huge donation to the Clinton Foundation). Dims! What are we gonna do with them? Will China take them? Maybe China needs some test subjects.


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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 2:58 PM
 

Trump wanted to ignore it and just spouted BS and lies. The dude along with his "media" arm at Fox, et.al. are gaslighting you about his response. People will die because of this guy and his maddening ego and lies.

We had weeks if not months of notice and did nothing. On top of dismantling the pandemic response team we had inadequate and flawed test-kits. There is no we have no guidance from the federal level and state government left to fend for themselves.

https://youtu.be/gIW8ldz7rjo


February 10: Trump says without evidence that the coronavirus “dies with the hotter weather”
February 24: Trump baselessly claims the situation is “under control”
February 25: A senior White House official falsely claims the virus has been “contained”
February 25: Trump falsely claims Ebola mortality was “a virtual 100%”
February 25: Trump falsely claims “nobody had ever even heard of Ebola” in 2014
February 26: Trump wrongly says the coronavirus “is a flu”
February 26: Trump baselessly predicts the number of US cases is “going very substantially down” to “close to zero”
February 26: Trump wrongly says the flu death rate is “much higher” than Dr. Sanjay Gupta said
February 27: Trump baselessly hints at a “miracle”
February 28: Trump baselessly hints at an immigration link to the virus
February 29: Trump exaggerates Tim Cook’s comments about Apple and China
March 1: Azar wrongly says 3,600 people have been tested
March 2: Trump falsely claims “nobody knew” the number of US flu deaths
March 2: Trump says a vaccine is coming “relatively soon”
March 4: Trump falsely claims Obama impeded testing
March 4: Trump wrongly says as many as 100,000 people died of the flu in 1990
March 4: Trump says “the borders are automatically shut down”
March 4: Trump says he believes there was a coronavirus death in New York, though there hadn’t been one
March 4: Trump falsely claims the Obama administration “didn’t do anything” about H1N1
March 5: Trump misleadingly describes a Gallup poll relating to his handling of the virus
March 5: Trump wrongly claims the virus only hit the US “three weeks ago”
March 6: Azar wrongly claims there is no test shortage
March 6: As the number of cases and deaths in Italy rises, Trump says the number is “getting much better”
March 6: Trump falsely claims anybody can get tested if they want
March 6: Trump exaggerates the number of people on the Grand Princess cruise ship
March 6: Trump falsely says US coronavirus numbers “are lower than just about anybody”
March 6: Trump baselessly muses that “maybe” the coronavirus improved US jobs numbers
March 9: Pence says Trump’s “priority” was getting Americans off the ship

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 3:05 PM
 

That means you anti-Trumpers and the ones who did not vote for him voted for Hillary !! Geez, and you want us to listen to your comments. Trump is brash, a bully, and a name caller but he is not most dishonest dishonest politician in the history of this country, but Hillary is. Off my soap box.

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 3:07 PM
 

I see you don't dispute the facts.

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Those are Dim-ocrat "talking points", not facts...

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 9:01 PM
 

You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts...

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/china-coronavirus-response-delay

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Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 4:21 PM
 

Well if you don't like Trump just donate that thousand dollars you will be getting to charity


Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 5:12 PM
 

Anybody wanna know the name of the company that the cdc (a department under direct control of the presIdent) that was awarded the contract for covid19 test kits?

I’ll go ahead and tell you.. Oscar Health, a company owned by the Kushners. Though Jareds name was on the company as co owner, with his brother Joshua, it has now been removed.

All the while they refused test kits from the WHO (World Health Organization).

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Oscar Health is an insurance company not a test mfg company

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 5:29 PM
 

President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and senior White House advisor Jared Kushner previously controlled a health insurance company that just unveiled a new website geared toward directing people to locations where they can be tested for the new COVID-19 coronavirus. The company, Oscar Health Insurance, had held itself out as being founded by Joshua Kushner, Jared’s brother. But state records uncovered by Mother Jones on Tuesday revealed that, when the business was incorporated in 2013, both Jared and Joshua owned Oscar’s parent company, Thrive Partners III GP LLC.

Thrive Partners III GP LLC was owned by Thrive Capital Partners III LP; Jared Kushner divested from Thrive Capital in 2017.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/guess-who-previously-owned-health-insurance-co-operating-coronavirus-testing-website/



Test kits from WHO were never offered or sought.***

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 9:11 PM
 




Re: Test kits from WHO were never offered or sought.***


Posted: Mar 20, 2020 10:55 AM
 

How do we know that?

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Re: Test kits from WHO were never offered or sought.***

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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 11:21 AM
 

Oh yes they were and we declined because the CDC wanted to develop its own kit.

Dated Feb. 28: "Speed is critical in the response to COVID-19. So why has the United States been so slow in its attempt to develop reliable diagnostic tests and use them widely?

The World Health Organization (WHO) has shipped testing kits to 57 countries. China had five commercial tests on the market 1 month ago and can now do up to 1.6 million tests a week; South Korea has tested 65,000 people so far. The U. S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), in contrast, has done only 459 tests since the epidemic began. The rollout of a CDC-designed test kit to state and local labs has become a fiasco because it contained a faulty reagent. Labs around the country eager to test more suspected cases—and test them faster—have been unable to do so. No commercial or state labs have the approval to use their own tests."

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/02/united-states-badly-bungled-coronavirus-testing-things-may-soon-improve


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Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 8:48 PM
 

You conveniently left out 3 of the most important dates:
Mid January WHO announced there was no problem.
January 31 Trump put in the China travel ban
January 31-February Dem leadership calls Trump Racist for the China travel ban.


Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against


Posted: Mar 20, 2020 10:34 AM
 

BINGO... The Virus is the democratic party!


Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against

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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 11:15 AM
 


You conveniently left out 3 of the most important dates:
Mid January WHO announced there was no problem.
January 31 Trump put in the China travel ban
January 31-February Dem leadership calls Trump Racist for the China travel ban.




You conveniently got your facts wrong. The W.H.O. called it's first Emergency Committee meeting regarding the outbreak of novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) on Jan. 23, part of it's statement too other countries:

"It is expected that further international exportation of cases may appear in any country. Thus, all countries should be prepared for containment, including active surveillance, early detection, isolation and case management, contact tracing and prevention of onward spread of 2019-nCoV infection, and to share full data with WHO."

It called it's second emergency meeting 10 days later. "It is expected that further international exportation of cases may appear in any country. Thus, all countries should be prepared for containment, including active surveillance, early detection, isolation and case management, contact tracing and prevention of onward spread of 2019-nCoVinfection, and to share full data with WHO. Technical advice is available on the WHO website."

Jan. 31. Trump DID NOT impose a travel ban on China. He banned Chinese Nationals from flying to the U.S. He DID NOt ban U.S. citizens from traveling to and from China.

The 3rd one you got partly right. Joe Biden did call Trump "zenophobic" for banning Chinese nationals from traveling to the U.S.. Joe Biden is an idiot.

Support who you like politically, but facts matter. Bush screwed up deregulating Wall St. too much resulting in the meltdown of 2008-9. Obama screwed up Obamacare by not addressing costs but instead just pouring more money into the Healthcare Industrial Complex. And Trump screwed the pooch in his response to Covid-19. We still don't have enough test kits.

Politicians are just people. They screw up like anyone else. None of them have crystal balls.

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Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against


Posted: Mar 19, 2020 10:22 PM
 

Way too much CNN in your diet. Open your eyes to the reality that would come from what you’re supporting on the far left. I just shake my head and wonder how people like you can be so mindless & easily controlled


Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against


Posted: Mar 19, 2020 4:24 PM
 

Except during that time when it was a hoax.


Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against


Posted: Mar 19, 2020 4:44 PM
 

Use "ignert" in a sentence.

Is smart?

No he's ignert.

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Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against

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Posted: Mar 19, 2020 5:21 PM
 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/virus-outbreak-cascade-warnings-went-193648556.html
https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/sg7T0p.RMUlmAMq.vmFOdA--~B/aD0yNTE2O3c9Mzc3NDtzbT0xO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_new_york_times_articles_158/c337b20233be553417b1d9d2c7a35916">



Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against

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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 10:27 AM
 

Trump got to where he is today by deceiving people and the federal government . Let him fool you if you so choose.


Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against


Posted: Mar 20, 2020 1:40 PM
 

You are a fool


Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against


Posted: Mar 20, 2020 7:11 PM
 

I would never call another person a fool. It shows your own personal intellect!


Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against


Posted: Mar 20, 2020 7:15 PM
 

Of course you can get away with that kind of childish behavior if you lack the gonads to tell tnet WHO you are. User names are not for real men!


Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:09 AM
 

You are a childish fool. Come to grips with it, and move on with your miserable life, snowflake.


Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:43 PM
 

Obama was the biggest deceiver EVER.


it is too late... this pandemic has taken our country

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Posted: Mar 20, 2020 2:47 PM
 

by storm. We are doomed.

y'all know anybody who's got the virus? I don't. Not Friends, family, co-workers, customers, etc. I think we're doing a pretty good job.

sure, it looks like Trump was trying to mislead the public. I think he was probably trying to minimize the panic (that naturally will affect the economy).

The whole testing thing was botched but we are much better prepared than China and Italy were. They didn't know what hit them.

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Re: it is too late... this pandemic has taken our country


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 11:05 AM
 

Actually our positive cases are growing at a higher rate than Italy’s. Lol, you have no idea


Maybe in California


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 12:36 PM
 

But it’s not swept our country like China and Italy.

We have lower population density and less public transit.

It makes perfect sense that ours would be growing faster. Everyone in Italy already has it?... sounds like another stat to instill fear.

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Re: Gotta admit...never been a big Trump fan and voted against


Posted: Mar 20, 2020 12:17 PM
 

### ??


Yes. He made a great decision of canceling the flight from China


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:01 AM
 

Otherwise we would be worse than Italy


Re: Yes. He made a great decision of canceling the flight from China


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 11:07 AM
 

In 10 days we may be. We are 9 days behind them in terms of the date 100 cases was reported (2/23 vs 3/2). By all graphs by next Sunday we will be where they were yesterday.


Yeah we’re doing much better than Italy...


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 11:10 AM
 




what color is the sky on your planet?

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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 12:30 PM
 

'cause we surely can't be living in the same reality

he's f'd this up from the very beginning

what kind of leader when asked what he has to say to Americans who are scared/worried, responds by attacking the reporter who asked the question?

he has shown just how badly he has been out of his depth from the day he took office


Listen guy, I don’t like Trump as a person but his

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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 12:40 PM
 

Results are hard to deny. Yea he acts like a crazy person and embarrasses me but I think he’s done a pretty good job.

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Re: Listen guy, I don’t like Trump as a person but his


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 12:43 PM
 

If I've learned one thing by watching him, it's go by actions, not by words. There are times I cringe...but based on the folks that are up there with him right now, 'idiot' isn't a word I'd use.

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Re: Listen guy, I don’t like Trump as a person but his


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 3:25 PM
 

What results? Up until 1 month ago, the only thing he had truly succeeded in doing was helping the Economy. There were plenty of people that hate Trump, but have enjoyed their 401k increasing double digits the last few years

Considering the fact that the market has lost every single gain it's made since he's joined office, he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

He has botched this entire thing by downlplaying the seriousness from the beginning and not getting his country prepared.

A month ago he literally said "I expect there to be zero cases very soon". What a maroon.


You are the Secretariat of posters


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:14 PM
 

Who are despicable in style and substance, heavily weighted with an agenda solely focused on putting the spotlight on yourself while denigrating all who stand opposite to your views. Congratulations, you've lapped the field in disgusting many..and for goodness sake, you've whipped some formidable competition.

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nope he is referring to factual data


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 11:22 PM
 

It amazes me how people meltdown when they see facts from everyone else in the world but still look to Trump for the truth. Give me Reagan Bush Sr George W anyone that knows what they are doing besides Trump. He is killing this country with his stupidity.


Re: nope he is referring to factual data


Posted: Mar 22, 2020 5:33 PM
 

Be careful TD. If your opinion varies from some of t’nets super intellects you will be dubbed a fool!


Re: Listen guy, I don’t like Trump as a person but his


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:48 PM
 

How was your health care and 401 under Obama ??


Re: what color is the sky on your planet?

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Posted: Mar 21, 2020 11:30 PM
 

He should kick that reporter and all the rest of the ones who don’t ask questions but rather attack and try to set him up and lie with their every breath out of the room! They are a total disgrace!


Kudos to you


Posted: Mar 21, 2020 10:59 PM
 

For saying recognizing and putting that into words. You are a real man in my book.

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