Re: Foreshadowing the Biden era?

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Nov 16, 2020, 11:16 PM

I have conversations with Democrats on a daily basis; although, I rarely find them rational. I do not see increased spending on any issue as a remedy. For my entire life, the Democrat’s answer to everything is to increase spending (except for police, weird). I find that highly irrational, because it has failed for decades.

Failing Democrat cities. Baltimore, Atlanta, LA, NY, anywhere NJ, Chicago, Detroit, and the list goes on. My definition of failing isn’t the same as the typical fox story line of homelessness, drug use, crime, etc. For me, it’s the insane taxes levied to “solve” those problems with zero return. That is why I loved the Trump tax cuts. It capped the deduction of local taxes. Now those people can see what their taxes are getting for them, and feeling the pain. It put pressure on city govts, because people started leaving poorly managed urban areas. Basically because rural America was subsidizing their insane tax rates. I fully understand that cities provide a lot of revenue to the US, but that is mainly from the super rich and corporations headquartered there, not the average person. Now someone in Baltimore can look at their city tax bill and think “why is no high school school in my entire city have anyone that can read at a third grade level. Maybe if we paid a few million more in tax, they will be smarter???” Insane. Of course that’s just one example.

Even more irritating is that cities are voting based on issues that they could address NOW by themselves. Nothing is stopping LA from paying off all student loans, having universal healthcare, net zero emissions, mask mandates, whatever. Why aren’t they doing it???????? They are Dems so I know they are intelligent; figure it out. But, they can’t afford it, that’s why they need Iowa to pitch in (goes back to repealing trumps tax cuts). I live in a neighborhood of 87 houses and I’m the only one from SC. The #1 reason my neighbors are here is because of the cost of living of where they came from. But hey, since they are apparently ignorant, they vote for the same crap here that ruined their state.

My biggest problem with Democrats is the blatant hypocrisy. I want to join the Paris climate accord to save the planet, and I’ll fly my private jet all over the world to tell people about it. I want people living pay check to pay check to provide healthcare for illegals; that are in direct competition for their jobs. When Trump bans people from traveling in from terrorist hotspots, he’s a racist; when Biden says he don’t want his kids going to school in a racial jungle, he’s a champion of black rights. All covid deaths are Trump’s fault, but swine flu deaths aren’t Obama’s. I have thousands of these. It’s nauseating.

For me this election boiled down to the economy. I think trump is better for the economy, and have a lifetime of observations to draw that conclusion. I don’t care about abortions or gay marriage. I’m not religious; I own a few guns, but I don’t sit around polishing them waiting on the apocalypse. I hate that we pick presidents on issues like abortion (state), healthcare (state, local), police shootings (state, local), covid (state, local). Can you imagine someone being mad at the f$$ing president because they caught the flu? My god!

Trump had less people relying on the government for a check, and that scares democrats, because that is how they increase their power. I’m not talking about the avg person Democrat, I mean those in Washington. They know that the more people on Medicare, Medicaid, snap, daca, SS, welfare, the more votes they can buy. Don’t vote Republican, they are going to cut (any of those mentioned above)!!!!! They will do absolutely anything to stay in power. They do not care about you, and I wish you could see it as plain as I do. Most people on Washington do not care (dem or pub), that’s why I vote on the economy. Both side’s spending is beyond out of control. Washington doesn’t have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem. But here’s Biden to raise fkn taxes again.

Therefore, I see every Democrat as someone that has delayed and devalued my retirement. If it were for a worthy cause, I’d be all for it. But I 100% guarantee that you (Dems) will not fix anything, and we will all be more poor for your efforts.

Thanks.

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NC,

You listed these as liberal tenets. Well, I am a liberal, so please allow me to set you straight on a few things.

Much of this hard core drug addition is tied to liberal tenants:
(first of all, here is an outrageous claim with absolutely no supporting evidence)

-zero discipline in schools -
I don't know where you are getting this, but I taught in public schools for 22 years and I am a big fan of effective discipline in schools. My classroom was known (by students and teachers alike) for being orderly and productive

-victimhood mentality ("my status is your fault")
I was also known for making kids earn their grades. However, it would be simple-minded (both in class & in our greater society) to think that all roads to success are equal in length or difficulty. Striving to make circumstances more fair IS a liberal tenet that I support.

-enabling lack of individual responsibility (closely tied to above)
Again, liberals are very much for individual responsibility, but we also recognize some group responsibilities. We want to deal with the social realities around us that make it harder for some of us to become successful and contribute to our society. There is a balance to be achieved between these two responsibilities and we think we have a ways to go to strike that balance.

-individualism and expression of kids (that should be deferred until they are adults/more mature)
Again, I don't know what YOU are talking about but the very act of growing up deals with kids growing into their decision making step by step. As a liberal, I recognize that sometimes you have to give them their head a little bit - and see where that takes them. A refusal to listen to them during this process will lead, more often than not, to negative results. For a country that prides itself on individualism and free expression, you seem to want to deny it to others.

-legalizing marijuana
Jimmy Carter wisely said that, "Penalties for the possessing of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself." For over 50 years we have enforced marijuana policy that has done just that. It is time we stop sending people to prison for smoking a little weed. There are plenty of adults (far more than you know) that enjoy a little smoke and still manage their responsibilities quite well. Tell me why we shouldn't decriminalize marijuana.

-eliminating mental care residence facilities
Liberals do NOT advocate this, but we DO recognize that many such facilities are so underfunded that they may do more harm than good. And we follow the experts advice about allowing those mental patients who can cope in our society to do so. It is possible that we have followed this tendency a bit too far as of late, but liberals would want to see the statistical evidence (rather than anecdotal stories & intuition) to make those adjustments.

NC, When you try to paint a large group of people (any group) into a small box, you do them and yourself a disservice. We may be a divided country, but we are not nearly as divided as this kind of stereotyping attempts to portray. Let's give each other our due and talk rationally about our actual differences rather than making shittt up.

Foreshadowing the Biden era?