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FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson


Posted: Dec 7, 2016 2:43 PM
 

 
Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson

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Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson


Posted: Dec 7, 2016 2:46 PM
 

Those odds can't be right for Jackson


Unfortunately he is essentially a lock to win

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Posted: Dec 7, 2016 3:25 PM
 

Like Henry last year, ESPN decided in September/October who was supposed to win and has pushed that narrative for months.

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Re: Unfortunately he is essentially a lock to win

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Posted: Dec 7, 2016 6:29 PM
 

Nobody was even talking about Henry in September or October last year. Until November it was all about Fournette.


Now that you say that, I do remember a lot of early LF hype


Posted: Dec 8, 2016 8:43 AM
 

But when the voters were sending in ballots towards the end of the season, the ESPN Henry hype machine was in full force.

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Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson

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Posted: Dec 7, 2016 4:21 PM
 

Didn't someone say earlier that 9% of the vote was in. I guess it's only 900 +/- that vote on it so about 80 votes already. You have peeps like this that can't get their facts straight.

This "app" is B1G all the way. Editor from Canada but they have a pretty big audience. They've written some bad articles about Clemson throughout the year - not that they have that many. Here is what they wrote about DW4 winning golden arm. Notice the missed yardage... "200 and five scores" on the ground, as well as it infers (imo) that he is a 4th year junior.

http://www.thescore.com/ncaaf/news/1176377-deshaun-watson-wins-2016-johnny-unitas-golden-arm-award

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Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson

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Posted: Dec 7, 2016 6:48 PM
 

Any vote that comes in before all the games are played should be discarded, because the voter is too stupid to be a participant.

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They are and he is a lock. Lame!*****


Posted: Dec 8, 2016 9:36 AM
 



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Still think he deserves credit


Posted: Dec 7, 2016 2:49 PM
 

For post Heisman performance last season.

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Re: Still think he deserves credit

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Posted: Dec 7, 2016 3:17 PM
 

My thoughts aswell. How can his NC performance go unrecognized? Move the Heisman awards until after the playoff to take into account those who have led their teams to achieve the ultimate goal.

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Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson

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Posted: Dec 7, 2016 3:09 PM
 

How in the world could a guy the the ginormous when he couldn't keep his team from losing 2 straight games. Jackson is a great player, but I don't believe he should get it over Watson.


Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson

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Posted: Dec 7, 2016 3:13 PM
 

Agreed. Stop Jackson from running and cardinals lose the game. With DW4, you pick your poison.

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Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson


Posted: Dec 7, 2016 6:57 PM
 

You are so right. He is pretty 1 dimensional. DW4 can beat you six ways to Sunday and wait for you at the finish line on Saturday evening.

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Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson


Posted: Dec 7, 2016 6:54 PM
 

Typically a race is not won, until the finish line is crossed. Jackson started out fast, but he finished way back in the pack. DW4 started slowly, but he finished his race in 1st place. Like last year, there should be no question who gets the award, and that is DW4. I just hope this year the voters get it right. The Heisman has gotten to be about as worthless as the Nobel Prize.

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Last year the general consensus was that they knew they got


Posted: Dec 8, 2016 7:32 AM
 

it wrong... Hopefully they don't have short memories and correct that wrong this year.

I Llamar is as great as they think he is, lets see him repeat those numbers next year. (Like DW4)


Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson

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Posted: Dec 7, 2016 3:40 PM
 

The problem with Deshaun winning is that I believe the voting was permitted to begin too soon and well before the completion of the entire regular season. Therefore Deshaun's last 3-4 games of great play versus Jackson's play in his last 3-4 games will not be enough to overcome Jackson's great start even though Deshaun should win on the basis of his full 13 games. I have long believed that all of these awards should be voted upon and decided after the final 4 playoff has been completed. We have seen too many instances where the wrong players were selected too prematurely. Also, carrying your team well into the final 4 playoff should bear significant weight. What do you think?


Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson


Posted: Dec 7, 2016 3:49 PM
 

Man that is sad. An 11-1 QB with ~4,500 total yards (3900 pass, 600 rush) that won the head to head with Lamar, and therefore won the division, then won the conference, and is going to CFP will lose the heisman to a 3 loss running QB who lost his last 2 games and didn't even win his division but had an awesome September. Sad. DW deserves it. Don't even get me started on the early lazy voters.


Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson


Posted: Dec 7, 2016 6:57 PM
 

This!

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Wish they would consider this...

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Posted: Dec 7, 2016 5:22 PM
 

LJ stats
TD passes per game/ Opponent
6 /Charlotte
1/Syracuse
1/FSU
5/Marshall
1/Clemson
1/Duke
3/NCST
4/UVA
4/BC
1/Wake
1/Houston
2/Kentucky
He lit up bad competition. But what did he do through air against decent teams...nada
16 TD passes in 8 conference game.
4 games with 300yd plus, passing
those teams
Syracuse, Marshall, NCST, UVA.

Deshaun
1/Auburn
3/Troy
3/SCST
2/GT
5/LOU
4/BC
2/NCST
2/FSU
2/Syr
3/Pitt
1Wake
6/SC
3/Va tech
21 in conf
24 if ACCCG included.
6 games over 300. Several where he was pulled very early.
One game 52 completions on 70 att for 580 yards. Thats playstation numbers.

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^^^^THIS

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Posted: Dec 7, 2016 6:22 PM
 

I've said it for few weeks....the question is, when it's the 4th quarter and it's a close game, who do you want your QB to be, Deshaun or Lamear?
That isn't even close, no matter who answers the question. Deshaun has proven he thrives under pressure , when the game is on the line. Lamear has only proven that he crumbles!
GO TIGERS!


Re: ^^^^THIS


Posted: Dec 7, 2016 7:01 PM
 

This, indeed!

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Re: Wish they would consider this...


Posted: Dec 7, 2016 7:00 PM
 

Indeed!

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Yes, that information should be considered. good scoop***


Posted: Dec 7, 2016 10:52 PM
 



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Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson

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Posted: Dec 7, 2016 6:45 PM
 

Jackson may win the award, but he is no DW4. It;s a shame, too, if DW4 doesn't win, because he embodies what the Heisman winner is supposed to be. Nobody else even comes close.

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Well said - no one else come close to DW4.


Posted: Dec 8, 2016 3:05 PM
 

He's a real class act.


Problem is. 80% of voters decided in September.***

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Posted: Dec 8, 2016 9:26 AM
 




Headline should read "Latest Odds to Win the Natty"***


Posted: Dec 8, 2016 9:53 AM
 




Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson


Posted: Dec 8, 2016 10:10 AM
 

Unfortunately, Lamar won the heisman with his performance against FSU. The Noles had no answer for his athletic ability and they never took him out of the game after it was well in hand so his numbers were ridiculous. Another determining factor is that he routinely and single handedly carried his team. Clemson has too many playmakers. DeShaun's job is to distribute the ball which he does better than anyone in the country. DW4 is by far the more complete and thus valuable player. If you can stop Lamar from running, you will shut that team down


Re: FB Update: Latest Heisman odds for Deshaun Watson


Posted: Dec 8, 2016 10:35 AM
 

Agree with your remarks but your last sentence is what separates DW4 from LJ8.


Let's hope the polls are as accurate here as they were in


Posted: Dec 8, 2016 1:52 PM
 

the Presidential election!

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