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Orange Blooded [3821]
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Why do we have banners at the stadium for 2012 & 2010 ACC
Oct 25, 2013, 9:27 AM
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titles? It's embarrassing. We finished 2nd in our division to FSU. This is the crap Texas A&M pulls. We're Clemson. We're better than that.
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I doubt we have anything listed for 2010
Oct 25, 2013, 9:32 AM
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We finished 6-6 on the season.
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Orange Blooded [3821]
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Sorry 2009***
Oct 25, 2013, 9:37 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81628]
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2009 we won the Atlantic Division outright...***
Oct 25, 2013, 9:39 AM
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Orange Blooded [3821]
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Getting old. I was there for that game.***
Oct 25, 2013, 9:57 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81628]
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Yea, that sign with dates is for Division Titles, where
Oct 25, 2013, 10:00 AM
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we won 2009 & 2011 outright, but the 2012* has an asterick because it was a co-Division champion. It's "officially" recognized by the ACC, but I do agree that it is embarrassing for us to have it.
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Rookie [12]
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Since both of us had 1 loss in 2012 we claim it
Oct 25, 2013, 9:35 AM
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Since both of us had 1 loss in 2012 we claim it. They got to go to the ACCCG because of the head-to-head tiebreaker, but both teams were 6-1 in the conference and technically both were divisional champs.
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Orange Blooded [3821]
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Don't you think that's bush league? something the Poultry
Oct 25, 2013, 9:40 AM
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would do?
We didn't win because FSU beat us head to head.
Same scenario for Steve Spurrier's alleged ACC Championship at Duke. It didn't happen. UVA was ACC Champs because they had the same record & beat Duke head to head.
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Re: Don't you think that's bush league? something the Poultry
Oct 25, 2013, 9:44 AM
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Yeah, I agree with you, but that's how Dabo and the ADept want to spin it.
However, in 5-10 years when recruits see it and consider that they were 10 or 5 years old at the time they're not going to go looking on the net for head-to-head battles, all they'll see is the banners with the titles.
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Legend [15730]
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Not true. THE ACC recognizes Co-Champions of each
Oct 25, 2013, 9:52 AM
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division but has a tie-breaker for who gets to play in the conference championship game. Now, in YOUR mind, that team playing in Charlotte is the ACTUAL champion of the division, but that's not how the ACC has structured it, so it's just your opinion.
So, Dabo and the ADept have "spun" it by complying with the definition of the conference.
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110%er [6692]
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Plus we got some little trophy I think.***
Oct 25, 2013, 9:54 AM
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Orange Blooded [3821]
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Not a single person thinks this is embarrassing?
Oct 25, 2013, 10:00 AM
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To be honest I didn't even notice until some FSU friends of mine started giving me a hard time about it after the game. And they were right.
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Legend [15730]
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They were right about what?***
Oct 25, 2013, 10:02 AM
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Orange Blooded [3821]
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It's embarrassing.
Oct 25, 2013, 10:05 AM
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I'll let this go but at least it has an asterisk.
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110%er [5121]
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Tell your "friend" to ####. The ACC says we were co-champs
Oct 25, 2013, 10:04 AM
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to hell with what other people say.
I'm pretty sure they claim a title or two where they were co-champs...though I couldn't care less.
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110%er [5121]
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wow, tnet filters abbreviations...***
Oct 25, 2013, 10:05 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81628]
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Orange Blooded [3821]
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That's bush too
Oct 25, 2013, 10:08 AM
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I guess everyone does it now. It's stupid.
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Oculus Spirit [81628]
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Tell your stupid buddies that. They have a "2008*" in their
Oct 25, 2013, 10:09 AM
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stadium.
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Orange Blooded [3821]
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Doesn't make ours any more correct***
Oct 25, 2013, 10:40 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81628]
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"some FSU friends of mine started giving me a hard time
Oct 25, 2013, 10:50 AM
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about it after the game."
Your friends are hypocrites and morons.
And ours IS correct, by the ACC...
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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^^^This post ends the argument***
Oct 25, 2013, 11:11 AM
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Orange Blooded [3821]
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Still doesn't make it right on our part***
Oct 25, 2013, 11:28 AM
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Legend [15730]
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Its accuracy makes it right on our part. The fact that
Oct 25, 2013, 11:38 AM
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FSU does the same thing should just shut your friend up.
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Orange Blooded [3821]
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Yeah, I don't care about them or if FSU does it
Oct 25, 2013, 11:58 AM
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It bother me WE do it.
There was an article a couple of years ago when Texas A&M joined the SEC ridiculing them for claiming Big 12 co-titles when they finished tied for their division but yet were 2nd or 3rd in the tie-breakers. I thought it was ridiculous. I thought it was ridiculous when teams like Tennessee, UGA, Alabama & Notre Dame claim these excessive national titles.
Now WE do it whether or not its sanctioned by the ACC. I thought the ACC sucked? This same ACC that added a year probation to us. The same ACC that stripped GT of the 2009 ACC Title because of a $180 shirt?
Justify it all you want but its wrong.
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Orange Blooded [4756]
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It's not Bush League, that's how the Conference does it
Oct 25, 2013, 9:58 AM
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Clemson and FSU were officially co-champions last year; they got the tiebreaker. There's even a trophy for it. That's how the rules are written.
Do I care about a trophy or a "co-championship"? No. I don't even care that much about Division championships. But it's not like we're making up the title or anything. And I might be wrong about this but I doubt they issue "co-division championship" rings to the players.
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Re: Don't you think that's bush league? something the Poultry
Oct 25, 2013, 10:12 AM
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Totally agree. CU has adopted some very chicken-esque, poser type behavior since Y2K, but then again I'm a bit of a hardliner. If I had my way, NO FAN would EVER touch Howard's Rock or run down the Hill. (unless their seats were on the Hill and even then, the part the players run down would be separated with rope or electric fencing)My belief has always been that if you want to touch that rock and run down that hill, you should have to pay the price in the weight room and in practice year round, the same way those players do. Now we have any old Joe Blow getting this privilege, not to mention, "the abomination of desolation" that is the Lady's Clinic and their yearly desecration of all that is SUPPOSED to be holy about CU football. And you wonder why the administration doesn't put top shelf security for the Rock high on the priorities list?
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110%er [5434]
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110%er [9646]
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Officially from the ACC - we were tied at the top of the
Oct 25, 2013, 10:13 AM
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division. The ACC provides the trophy to anyone who finishes tied at the top. The tie-breakers determine who goes to the Champ game.
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Orange Blooded [2659]
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If Alabama can claim National Titles that they technically
Oct 25, 2013, 9:38 AM
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did not earn, then we should be able to hang banners that we TECHNICALLY( by the rules set) EARNED. No matter if it doesn't meet your standards. And in all honesty, we have no more historical football tradition than A&M. They are very similar to us historically AND had to play Texas, Oklahoma and Nebraska every year( when they all WERE something). The banners are like pins on a uniform....not many dissect each one....it's the OVERALL LOOK that impresses recruits.
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All-TigerNet [14921]
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See also, Notre Dame, University of***
Oct 25, 2013, 9:50 AM
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Orange Blooded [2659]
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exactly. good POINT***
Oct 25, 2013, 9:58 AM
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Orange Blooded [3821]
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Who wants to be like them?***
Oct 25, 2013, 10:00 AM
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Re: Banners
Oct 25, 2013, 9:38 AM
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The ACC recognizes co-champions. Both FSU and CU
had 7-1 conference records in 2012. FSU went to Charlotte because they won the head-to-head matchup.
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Orange Blooded [3788]
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If it were up to me I wouldn't recognize division titles
Oct 25, 2013, 9:40 AM
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especially not shared division titles.
However, it isn't up to me and Clemson can put up banners for anything they've been awarded if they see fit.
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Rock Defender [63]
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There are as many teams in each division now, ...
Oct 25, 2013, 12:24 PM
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.. as there were in the entire ACC in the 80's (seven). So, I don't think that it's bad to raise the banner. It's just about as impressive to win a division now, as it was to win the conference then.
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Orange Blooded [3788]
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There were 8 teams in the ACC in the '80s
Oct 25, 2013, 2:32 PM
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GT joined in '79. There were 7 from '72 to '79, after Sakerlina left and Before GT joined, although I think GT waited to join in football until like 1983
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Rock Defender [63]
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7 or 8, it's still a close comparison.
Oct 25, 2013, 2:38 PM
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divisions now to conference total then.
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All-TigerNet [13036]
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1) This has been already been discussed numerous
Oct 25, 2013, 9:45 AM
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times on here.
2) We did win the division in 2009
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Orange Blooded [3821]
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Did everyone agree it was ok like now? Maybe we should put
Oct 25, 2013, 9:51 AM
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up participation banners as well. We didn't earn that banner (even though it has an asterisk).
I grew up watching the Danny Ford Tigers. You think Danny would allow it? I guess times have changed & the fanbase as well.
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All-TigerNet [13036]
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No, some argued fanatically that we were bush-league
Oct 25, 2013, 9:57 AM
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like you, and the rest just don't give a crap, like me.
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Re: Did everyone agree it was ok like now? Maybe we should put
Oct 25, 2013, 10:03 AM
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If Danny was co-ACC champs he would have done exactly the same thing. The ACC gives you a trophy you don't throw it in the trash.
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Oculus Spirit [81628]
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What you need to be concerned with is FSU is going to
Oct 25, 2013, 9:47 AM
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tie us with 14 ACC Championships this year...
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Orange Blooded [2659]
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yep. my thought exactly. That sux***
Oct 25, 2013, 9:48 AM
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All-TigerNet [13036]
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because we revel in mediocrity***
Oct 25, 2013, 9:58 AM
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110%er [5121]
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Is everyone on the rag in here? I've never heard so much
Oct 25, 2013, 10:48 AM
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bitching in my life.
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CU Guru [1904]
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We dont***
Oct 25, 2013, 11:29 AM
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Rock Defender [63]
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There were only 7 teams in the ACC during most of the 80's
Oct 25, 2013, 12:29 PM
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The same as in each division now. So, it seems just as impressive to win a division now as the conference then.
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