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Do ACC tourney games count towards the 40 that we want to
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Do ACC tourney games count towards the 40 that we want to


May 12, 2013, 9:40 PM

reach? Sorry if a dumb question, not much of a baseball fan.....just a big Tiger fan.

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Yes***


May 12, 2013, 9:45 PM



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Re: Do ACC tourney games count towards the 40 that we want to


May 12, 2013, 9:48 PM

yes...the NCAA selection committee meets the Sunday/Monday after the ACC tourney(actually the Sunday, the ACC championship game is played) to select the 64 team field for the NCAA tournament. However the 16 Regional sites are selected before the ACC Tournament concludes.

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May 12, 2013, 9:51 PM



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So we need to win 40 before that Sunday?***


May 12, 2013, 11:23 PM [ in reply to Re: Do ACC tourney games count towards the 40 that we want to ]



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Change this year


May 13, 2013, 9:47 AM [ in reply to Re: Do ACC tourney games count towards the 40 that we want to ]

The host sites will not be picked until Sunday night after all tournaments have concluded. They just changed the policy this year due to feeling Miss St would have gotten to host after winning the SEC tournament last year if the selection committee had been able to wait for the game to finish.

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Re: Do ACC tourney games count towards the 40 that we want to


May 12, 2013, 9:49 PM

yes.some teams need to make a good showing in their tourneys and some times even win it in order to host.i think we host as it stands now,esp. if we get atleast 1 at fsu.

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Re: Do ACC tourney games count towards the 40 that we want to


May 12, 2013, 11:16 PM

Yes they do as others have stated. You may have been thinking about Major league baseball. Playoff wins are not counted toward the regular season win total. Whereas in College in win is counted toward the win total.

Great question. Go Tigers!

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Why is 40 the "magic" number?


May 13, 2013, 8:05 AM

If we had won 4-5 games we lost against bad teams this year, we'd already be at that 40, even if we'd been swept by UNC, SCAR and UVA.

Would winning 40 with no really strong wins be better than winning 38 or so and having wins over those top teams?

Just asking, because an arbitrary number like 40 seems to be viewed as the key.

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Re: Why is 40 the "magic" number?


May 13, 2013, 8:36 AM

Very few teams with 40 wins in a major conference are ever passed over as NCAA host. Sure 38 wins and a higher RPI would be better than 40 and a low RPI but usually for a team in a major conference 40 wins is the number.

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Those few bad losses hurt our RPI probably worse than a few


May 13, 2013, 8:37 AM [ in reply to Why is 40 the "magic" number? ]

quality wins would help it.

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Seems like I recall a similar conversation on ESPN right


May 13, 2013, 9:03 AM

after the basketball tourney selections were made. I think they were comparing a team with no good wins/bad losses against a team with good wins but also bad losses. The former got in, so you're probably right.
Bad is greater than good.

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Not so much in baseball


May 13, 2013, 12:03 PM

The selection committee knows that a random Tuesday night outcome isn't nearly as important as what you do on the weekend. We would have gotten more out of taking that friday game from UVA than any loss to UGA would hurt us.

If you are a bubble team then bad losses might be a factor. But it won't matter for Clemson.

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40 wins is sort of the old basketball "20 wins"


May 13, 2013, 9:39 AM [ in reply to Why is 40 the "magic" number? ]

It's not a rule, just one of those benchmarks to shoot for.

Essentially the thought is that with our SOS and RPI, 40 wins (and a decent bid) would make us impossible to pass over as a Region host.

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40 wins has always been a benchmark


May 13, 2013, 11:59 AM [ in reply to Why is 40 the "magic" number? ]

Seperates the really good from the above average. Kinda like the 10 win football season and the 20 win basketball season.

Thing is, 40 wins in baseball has become harder to do with fewer games and those other benchmarks have become easier to get.

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