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Coots rackin up them 3-stars
Jul 4, 2017, 5:14 PM
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Question is, will they coach them up to 4-star production or coach them down to 2-stars. Hmmmmmm.....
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Re: Coots rackin up them 3-stars
Jul 4, 2017, 5:18 PM
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Haven't you heard? Muschump doesn't believe in stars. Guess that's why they have so few.
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Re: Coots rackin up them 3-stars
Jul 4, 2017, 5:18 PM
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Haven't you heard? Muschump doesn't believe in stars. Guess that's why they have so few.
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Re: Coots rackin up them 3-stars
Jul 4, 2017, 5:27 PM
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#NeverAgain will they sign 4 or 5* players- coaches that say they "Don't believe in stars" is only because they can't sign star players
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Re: Coots rackin up them 3-stars
Jul 4, 2017, 5:32 PM
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On paper they are recruiting to the level of Missouri, Kentucky, Mississippi State...and barely above Vandy, Wake Forest, or Duke. And those schools get some really smart kids who often end up exceeding their assessed "star" ranking through diligence, hard work, and of course, coachability and high IQ's.
Hard to separate from the pack that way, especially if you're not doing anything novel on either side of the ball schematically and they aren't. Muschamp's a pretty good DC, when he has talent, but there's nothing exotic or hard to prepare for about his defensive scheme, and Roper is a solid if by-the-book OC who isn't going to wow you with his wrinkles or approach to the game.
IMHO if you're going to win in college football - anywhere, but especially at South Carolina - you'd better bring an edge, something "extra", and in Spurrier's case it was that he was one of the most natural and intuitive playcallers in college football history. That manufactured a good 2 or even 3 TD's a game and often kept them in - and winning - games that on paper they had no business winning. You can argue Spurrier may have lost his touch at the very end and that's possibly true but up until then he was arguably maybe the guy any coach in the country wanted least on the opposing sideline.
There's just nothing Muschamp brings to the table that provides any kind of edge like that. And bereft of that edge Carolina is back where they usually are, struggling to separate from the bottom of the SEC East.
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Reminds me of the old saying
Jul 4, 2017, 5:39 PM
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"It ain't the X's and O's, it 's the Jimmy's and Joe's!"
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Muschamp got fired
Jul 4, 2017, 5:42 PM
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[playing basically the same schedule at Florida with 4&5 stars. What makes anyone think could do better at USuC with 3 stars ? No logic at all in that assumption.
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Re: Coots rackin up them 3-stars
Jul 4, 2017, 5:37 PM
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You can win with 3 & 4 star players, but you need to red shirt & develop them at a high level while also running a creative offense.
So far South Carolina hasn't done any of that, & they show no signs of adjusting the status quo.
UGA & Florida run similar offenses but have a lot better players, so they will more than likely be better than them.
UK has better players & runs a better scheme
UT has better players with a similar caliber coach.
Vandy has a better coach & similar players.
Clemson is a whole different level
IT will be interesting to see how South Carolina does this year. It doesn't look good for them imo.
Go Tigers!
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at best they are 6-6 again
Jul 4, 2017, 7:26 PM
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Losses:
Ark
Fla
UGA
Clemson
Texas A&M
NC State
Potential losses:
At UT
Home Vandy
Home Kentucky
Wins:
Wofford
La tech
Missouri
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Re: at best they are 6-6 again
Jul 4, 2017, 9:19 PM
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Usuck should beat Vandy. I actually see them losing at Missouri. A 5-7 outcome would not surprise me at all, but 6-6 might with some pure luck. Depth or lack thereof, is still a major issue.
Go Tigers!
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Re: Coots rackin up them 3-stars
Jul 4, 2017, 5:53 PM
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Levon Kirkland was a 2 star. Every kid has a chance.
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Re: Coots rackin up them 3-stars
Jul 4, 2017, 7:29 PM
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Amen to that. Grady Jarrett was too I think by Rivals...
Even though I know it's all in good fun and I can definitely appreciate that...it wasn't too long ago that we were in the same boat...so I hate to make fun like this. What I love more than anything is just to simply dominate on the field...do our talking there.
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Re: Coots rackin up them 3-stars
Jul 4, 2017, 9:58 PM
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I love when people make this post...
Yes there are exceptions to the rule but that doesnt change the fact that for the most part 4 and 5 star players usually turn out better over the long run than 3 star players.
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Re: Coots rackin up them 3-stars
Jul 4, 2017, 5:54 PM
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problem with stars is they are not bestowed on men who are young of body and strong of mind and heart. Hopefully our coaches look at a recruits family, both physically and mentally, to see what will likely be. Our coaches seem to be pretty good at evaluation.
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Re: Coots rackin up them 3-stars
Jul 5, 2017, 8:40 AM
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Mustcamp likes to coach his players to block each other hard in practice .
Problem is , they carry that over into games .
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