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Who would you rather play
May 28, 2012, 9:02 PM
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Oklahoma, Texas, Ok St., WVU, Kansas St, Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, Iowa State, FSU, and Kansas (and yes FSU is going....if you cant see that your blind)
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GT, Duke, WF, Syracuse, Pitt, NC St, UNC, UVA, VT, Miami, BC
Just look at it it. Who in their right mind would pick option 2. Miami doesnt even create a good atmosphere when they are winning. The only team i enjoy playing in the ACC right now is VT
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After FSU and Clemson leave, others in the ACC will vacate..
May 28, 2012, 9:04 PM
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so option 2 is not relevant for very long.
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Re: Who would you rather play
May 28, 2012, 9:10 PM
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The ACC cause we got great chance of going 10-2 11-1 every year as opposed to vs the Big 12. Who has better chance of winning the big 12 every year Clemson, OU or Texas? When honest with yourself it isn't us.
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going 10-2 in the ACC..
May 28, 2012, 9:11 PM
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is a joke.see wv game from last year
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and you can bet the play off..
May 28, 2012, 9:12 PM
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committee that selects the 4 teams will take note of that as well
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ACC got 2 teams in the BCS just last year
May 28, 2012, 9:28 PM
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Clemson goes 11-1 they will play in the final 4, Clemson has too much respect to be left out
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how did we fare in those two games??
May 28, 2012, 9:47 PM
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that is the point i am trying to make.when it comes time for out of conference games against big schools the acc teams tend to do bad
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gotta get the to have a shot. Clemson has only had one shot
May 28, 2012, 9:51 PM
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we have won the ACC once in 20 years, yet were gonna just go win the Big 12 huh?
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maybe we should go to the so con..we would have..
May 28, 2012, 9:55 PM
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a better shot at winning the play offs every year
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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What would a score from several years back have to do when
May 28, 2012, 10:58 PM
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teams are selected for the playoffs? Did they consider Bama's loss to UL Monroe in 2007 in the selection process in 2010 or 2011?
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Re: going 10-2 in the ACC..
May 28, 2012, 9:18 PM
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I agree. You are correct in your assessment.
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Re: going 10-2 in the ACC..
May 29, 2012, 2:11 AM
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nope...it was due to Dabo's magical coaching/motivational attributes
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I'd trade our last 5 years for Boise st any day
May 28, 2012, 9:13 PM
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all about winning to me. Sorry but I get jacked when we play Wake, who doesn't? Its Clemson football
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but what is the point of winning if you can play for the big
May 28, 2012, 9:14 PM
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prize???
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Re: but what is the point of winning if you can play for the big
May 28, 2012, 9:30 PM
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Where is the proof the ACC wont be in the mix? Just a bunch of opinions and no facts. The ACC will be one of the major conferences.ESPN wouldn't have given billions of dollars to the ACC if they weren't gonna be a major conference
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They needed sports programming from January through March.***
May 28, 2012, 11:01 PM
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You lost me at...
May 29, 2012, 7:37 AM
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"I get jacked when we play Wake." Most ludicrous, battiest statement in the history of mankind. Noon games against the likes of Wake Forest are the reason Clemson football and to a larger extent ACC football are perceived the way they are.
We should beat Wake Forest every single time we play them - that is not cause to be "jacked." I'm not jacked, most fans (yourself excluded) aren't jacked, and the players aren't jacked. This is why we DON'T beat them every time we play them - it's physically, emotionally, and mentally impossible to get up for that type of game.
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Re: Who would you rather play
May 28, 2012, 9:25 PM
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Bryant, I have just the solution for you. If you become a Pirates fan, the ECU variety, you can have those moments as a fan almost every year.
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ECU can go to the BCS?***
May 28, 2012, 9:31 PM
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Re: ECU can go to the BCS?***
May 28, 2012, 9:33 PM
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The same chance Clemson will have next season in the ACC.
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Where is your proof of that?
May 28, 2012, 9:36 PM
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If Clemson goes 11-1 you better believe they will be in the BCS. Where is the proof Clemson has no shot in the ACC? I haven't heard anyone ligit say the ACC isn't a major conference.
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Re: Where is your proof of that?
May 28, 2012, 9:40 PM
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Bryant,
I know you love the ACC, but if you cant see the impending demise of the ACC you are looking the other way on purpose.
Its over. The ACC let it be known after they added Syracuse. The Swofford machine is done.
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I love Clemson not a conference. Like i said till proof
May 28, 2012, 9:49 PM
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comes out I'm not getting all happy. No ligit sources have came out about any of this. 11-1 is what I want every year
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How long do you think Clemson will thrive if they stay in
May 28, 2012, 9:54 PM
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a dying conference? Other teams will leave the ACC. Its probably going to be FSU. If we lose them, then our TV deal will be renegotiated for a much lower price. If we dont leave the ACC now, then eventually no one will want us when the ACC folds or falls down to mid-major status. If you want whats best for Clemson, then you need us to be in a respected conference.
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come talk to me when you're not saying IF***
May 28, 2012, 10:00 PM
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Re: come talk to me when you're not saying IF***
May 28, 2012, 10:04 PM
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Thats whateveryone is agruing though. IF this goes down, then this is what we need to do. IF the Big12 is going to expand then we need to go there.
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I agree if this goes down
May 28, 2012, 10:16 PM
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But if the ACC stays the same then I'm for staying but of course if it gets raided then yes we gotta go and will.
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Re: I agree if this goes down
May 28, 2012, 11:51 PM
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Bryant if you and your coworkers saw the writing on the wall and knew your company could close, would you go with them to a new job or wait for the unemployment line?
By Clemson waiting for the ACC to fail we'll be sitting in the unemployment line while the other fill available spots. Let's use some common sense here.
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Re: I agree if this goes down
May 28, 2012, 11:53 PM
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Who says the ACC will fail? I think they hold more cards that we know.
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Re: Clemson will never be left behind***
May 29, 2012, 7:43 AM
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if we go 11-1 we will not be in the BCS vs one loss teams from the BIG Big 12 Pac 12 or SEC.
We would be picked over.
If we stay in the ACC the only way we get in any thing is to go undefeated while other conferences have that wiggle room to have one oops game.
You are putting our guys at a competitive disadvantage by wanting to stay in this #### show of a conference.
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Re: Who would you rather play
May 28, 2012, 9:19 PM
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Group A hands down. It is a no brainer.
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VT will move to the Big Ten the day after we (and Fsu) bolt
May 28, 2012, 9:30 PM
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For the Big 12
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Re: VT will move to the Big Ten the day after we (and Fsu) bolt
May 28, 2012, 9:41 PM
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Ain't happening..... Virginia politics would never let it happen, with UVA being a charter member.
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I just want someone ligit to come out and say
May 28, 2012, 9:46 PM
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the ACC isn't a major conference, when that happens ill be 100% on board with leaving. Right now I'd rather beat Wake every year then split with Texas, OU, WV, TCU OK st and K st at best. For those who say they'd rather be 8-4 in the Big 12 instead of 11-1 are just crazy. What's so bad about what Boise has done the last 5 years? How many teams from the big 12 have had better success than Boise st?
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Re: I just want someone ligit to come out and say
May 28, 2012, 9:58 PM
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What a losers mentality.
Youd rather play the JV squad than step up your game is pretty much what your saying
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yeah wanting to go 11-1 every year is a loser mentality
May 28, 2012, 10:03 PM
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I live in reality and know Clemson is walking right into the Big 12 and dominating like some think.
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Re: yeah wanting to go 11-1 every year is a loser mentality
May 29, 2012, 7:43 AM
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At 11-1 we wont get into the playoff....
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If the ACC falls to mid-major status then its bc we lose FSU
May 28, 2012, 10:00 PM
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and maybe VT. Once that happens, nobody will want us. We've got to jump in on this round of expansion. If we wait it out to see what happens then we may miss our chance.
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Clemson will never be not wanted and left as a no one
May 28, 2012, 10:06 PM
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we have too much of a brand to be left behind. Like I said bring something other then if.
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Careful how you use the word "never". The SEC doesnt want
May 28, 2012, 10:30 PM
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us. If the Big12 expanded to 12 or 14, they could leave us out for a while. If we went a couple years without a conference, we would have no choice but to fall down to mid-major.
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a team with 80,000 seat stadium and
May 28, 2012, 11:04 PM
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a rabid fan base and a pretty good history will never be a Mid major. I don't get some of you thinking of Clemson that way
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Re: how many NC's has Boise played for again?
May 29, 2012, 12:18 PM
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how many BCS games have they played in and won? Exactly
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bryant
May 28, 2012, 10:10 PM
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That's the attitude that kept us mediocre for years. I'd rather go 6-6 and be respected than go 11-1 and be the joke of college football.
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Re: bryant
May 28, 2012, 10:17 PM
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Was it mediocre when we won a championship in '81? and contended in the top ten through out the decade? Was it mediocre when 9 of our member teams won national championships?
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Re: bryant
May 28, 2012, 11:18 PM
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> Was it mediocre when we won a championship in '81?
You do realize that were it not for Penn State beating Pittsburgh a week after our regular season ended that we would have not won the national title? Pitt was #1 going into the games of 11/28, we finished the regular season on 11/21 and Pitt beat UGA in the Sugar Bowl.
Yes, we very well could have gone 12-0, beating 3 top 10 teams (UGA, UNC, and Nebraska)in the process in 1981 and finished second in the polls because Pitt was ranked ahead of us when we ended the regular season and finished #2. Remember, at the time the ACC was considered weak in football at the time (sound familiar?) so it took a lot of moving parts to fall into place for us to get the elusive title. The season before a one loss ACC Champ UNC faced a seven win Texas team in the Bluebonnet Bowl in the post season. Just 3 years before a one loss Clemson team faced a seven win Ohio State team in the Gator Bowl.
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FSU didn't have a problem in the 90's***
May 28, 2012, 11:28 PM
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Re: bryant
May 28, 2012, 11:32 PM
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OK, so now Pitt is in the conference too. Do they not add anything to the ACC in football?
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Pitt has a much better history than us
May 28, 2012, 11:38 PM
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just compare NFL players that Pitt and Cuse have had compared to us. Qb Mcnabb and Marino to our? Jim Brown to our? Marvin Harreson?
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Larry Fitzgerald, LeSean McCoy, Dwight Freeney, Revis***
May 28, 2012, 11:43 PM
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Pitts football situation begs the question.....
May 29, 2012, 12:04 AM
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why has it been left to spiral down to its current condition.. Think how much Clemson fans have agonized over our football program since the early 90's.....and then multiply that exponentially by Pitts numerous NC's.
I'd be interested in hearing some opinions from Pitt fans as to exactly what the scenario has been
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+1Great point***
May 29, 2012, 12:07 AM
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Re: bryant
Jun 17, 2012, 2:26 PM
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you old farts haven't watched football in the last 20 years apparently. Times change. It's not 1982. Either change with the times or get left behind.
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name one 6-6 team that is respected?
May 28, 2012, 10:19 PM
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A 6-6 sec team isn't relevant but 11-1 Boise has been. All about winning. SC was 11-2 and beat Clemson yet Clemson got all the national hype and who everyone was talking about when we were 8-0
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Re: bryant
May 28, 2012, 10:30 PM
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Who's the joke of college football?
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not Clemson, if the acc were the joke of football
May 28, 2012, 11:06 PM
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then they wouldn't have gotten two teams in the bcs
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Re: not Clemson, if the acc were the joke of football
May 29, 2012, 7:45 AM
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This whole off season we have been
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Re: not Clemson, if the acc were the joke of football
Jun 17, 2012, 2:29 PM
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You're a moron. We were the best in the ACC by far and gave up 70 points to WVU. VT shouldn't even have been in the BCS game according to anyone with a brain. Do everyone a favor and go wander into traffic.
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You left out the Terps??? Shame, shame!!***
May 28, 2012, 10:41 PM
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Re: Clemson will never be left behind***
May 29, 2012, 12:06 AM
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Furman fans thought the same thing, the last time we had a huge conference shake up. Waiting for confirmation means you have been left behind.
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All in all, would like to see us play Alabama!
May 29, 2012, 10:11 AM
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We ought to arrange a game or two against those Lads, Iowa State et al? not so much......
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Lets set up a Home & Home then.***
May 29, 2012, 10:22 AM
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