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Is the SEC Overrated?
Jul 26, 2014, 11:59 AM
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Durrrr...Of course they are. So go vote and bring some balance to the eastern seaboard. (Bottom left of the page)
http://espn.go.com/college-football/
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Re: Is the SEC Overrated?
Jul 26, 2014, 12:09 PM
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SEC is not overrated, if anything it's underrated. The problem is how much time ESPN spends talking about it. Gets old to me also
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Re: Is the SEC Overrated?
Jul 26, 2014, 12:11 PM
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Wow, underrated? Take your nonsense to another message board, coot.
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Re: Is the SEC Overrated?
Jul 26, 2014, 12:19 PM
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There's a polite way to disagree with someone
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Re: you can't be polite with STUPID^^^^^^^^^
Jul 26, 2014, 12:22 PM
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stupid doesn't understand that...
also Honey Badger don't give a dammm!
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Re: Is the SEC Overrated?
Jul 27, 2014, 4:18 AM
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This isn't now, or will there ever be a polite way to deal with any coot, period!!!
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Re: Is the SEC Overrated?
Jul 26, 2014, 12:10 PM
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The only "vote" that counts is on the field. We have two top SEC teams on our schedule: UGA and Carolina. Get the job done on the field. Leave the blustering to our opponents.
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Re: sorry, ya somehow mispelled "You" with "We"...
Jul 26, 2014, 12:24 PM
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not here coot.
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Orange Blooded [2537]
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done!
Jul 26, 2014, 12:20 PM
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but of course everyone who owns a tv, cable, & gets ESecPN is brainwashed!!!
they don't think objectively, or think period. they don't KNOW the $EC is better actually, they just DON'T KNOW SH!T!!!
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Re: done!
Jul 26, 2014, 3:18 PM
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> but of course everyone who owns a tv, cable, & gets
> ESecPN is brainwashed!!!
> they don't think objectively, or think period. they
> don't KNOW the $EC is better actually, they just
> DON'T KNOW SH!T!!!
45-95-5, Clemson record vs SEC. Objective enough for you?
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Re: done!
Jul 26, 2014, 3:23 PM
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What is our overall against your SEC team there , Coot ? Since we are all being so objective.
Ownership has its priveledges.
Clemson Tigers !
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Re: beat me to it Tigerdug23® !!! LOL
Jul 26, 2014, 3:33 PM
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was still typing my rebuttal 
kickin'chicken-@sses, is the answer!
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Re: objective enough...?
Jul 26, 2014, 3:30 PM
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didn't think you coots knew any, or much less liked history...OUCH!!!!
What's our record again? How many since lameclucks joined the $EC as whipping boys? hmmm,compare them...both, to each other...you may wanna shut-up & head back on over to the chicken coop 
hypocrites
and RECENTLY?
coots are an exception of course...just like being an exception to actually having a football program for 100 years + and being anything even thought of in national media & eyes until the last 3 years, LOL!
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Re: well well clucker-"elite"...how y'all like 101-166-10???
Jul 26, 2014, 3:38 PM
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yeah...really tearing it up! HAHAHA
now consider many of our losses were a long time ago to them, care to speak of this decade cockfowl? how about the team's rankings that we've beaten in big Bowls & openers & such...?
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Re: done!
Jul 26, 2014, 3:39 PM
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101-171-10 you coots in the SEC 38% winning record
coots against acc 199-244-22 45%
actually Clemson's record against SEC
120-169-14 41% winning record
Clemson in ACC 328-212-12 61%
Your point??
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Re: i guess wikipedia needs to update all the USuCk losses
Jul 26, 2014, 3:40 PM
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lol..that was from college football warehouse***
Jul 26, 2014, 3:59 PM
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Re: lol..that was from college football warehouse***
Jul 26, 2014, 4:02 PM
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great detective work!
i'm too lazy & computer illiterate...
we need guys like you around here for these house-coot stymies
GO TIGERS!!!
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Re: lol..that was from college football warehouse***
Jul 26, 2014, 4:44 PM
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I am a guyette....coot needs to go make me a sammich
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Re: pardon me! (it's kinda a general term, like you guys...)
Jul 26, 2014, 4:52 PM
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good GAL!...? lol, jk!
don't forget to tell'm grilled with no mayo!
the football stats don't lie on this one^^^
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Re: done!
Jul 26, 2014, 4:12 PM
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> Your point??
The question was about the SEC.
I will acknowledge your record is excellent against us, why can't you do the same?
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lol...
Jul 26, 2014, 4:39 PM
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you acknowledge it AFTER I proved you wrong.
Ok, I will acknowledge your record against us is excellent...42-65-4 *snickering*
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Re: done!
Jul 26, 2014, 4:48 PM
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because for many of those losses, it is comparing apples to oranges. The entrance requirements for ACC teams versus SEC teams was different. In fact, usc left the ACC for that reason. You wanted to join the "Dumb Dumb" conference and finally did.
This year is the last year of the present recruiting requirements. You better hope the SEC gets lots of players in. 2016 marks much more stringent requirements and the "Dumb Dumb" league will have difficulty getting their typical players in. By the way, will you get your 8 on the borderline in this year?
We've been to Sugar, Orange and Cotton Bowls.
You've been to?
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Re: LOL @ Garnetguy...silly coot, you'll get 0 sympathy &
Jul 26, 2014, 4:49 PM
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NO quarter or praise from me, & hopefully lastly from T-Net!!!
...and some reasons why, other than your obnoxious loser-now-gloaters fan base & just who you lameclucks are in general, are as follows. according to '250 & football warehouse:
> 101-171-10 coots in the SEC = 38% winning record
> 120-169-14 Clemson's record vs. SEC = 41% winning record
soooo...need I explain that our record is better BOTH against you AND than USuCk in your own(ed) precious $EC conference?!
wrong board, wrong team, wrong fan....not happening here!
bye-bye birdie
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Re: LOL @ Garnetguy...silly coot, you'll get 0 sympathy &
Jul 26, 2014, 5:09 PM
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Dancing around the question.
If the SEC is overrate, then why do you have a losing record?
You have tan excellent record in the ACC.
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Re: LOL @ Garnetguy...silly coot, you'll get 0 sympathy &
Jul 26, 2014, 5:19 PM
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this part of the thread is about "45-95-5, Clemson record vs SEC. Objective enough for you?". And you were wrong. So what is the question?
You record in the sec is what?
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for the fan of a team that has only recently gotten their
Jul 26, 2014, 5:35 PM
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all-time record above .500, you should tread lightly when discussing the record of another team. This little 5 game win streak vs. Clemson, also the first in your history, apparently has been just enough to make you maroons forget the previous 110 years (or so) of one of the most pathetic college football records and traditions.
usuck continues to play second fiddle in the historical orchestra to Clemson--in football and academically (the flagship univerity of the state--what a freakin' joke). I know I'll never live long enough to see the chickens overtake Clemson in this rivalry.....and I love to point out the first 50 or 60 games WERE ALL PLAYED in chickenville.
I find it difficult to believe you'd even chime in when the discussion posts reference historical records.
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Re: LOL @ Garnetguy...silly coot, you'll get 0 sympathy &
Jul 26, 2014, 10:44 PM
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our record for top SEC opponents is better than yours...over-rated, if we can beat them all when we're not picked to. Uh-Oh :-o Somebody makes big-boy talking
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Everyboy please vote OVERRATED!!!***
Jul 26, 2014, 3:43 PM
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Re: Is the SEC Overrated?
Jul 26, 2014, 5:09 PM
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The SEC isn't overrated, but it is misrepresented. ESPN and others lead you to believe the entire conference is good when in reality only about half the conference is. Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA, UF & UT are the reason the SEC is the best and they did all the real work to make the conference what it is. The others contributed little to nothing and are essentially free loaders.
Don't believe it? How many teams outside those six teams mentioned above have won the conference in the last 50 years? How many won a BCS bowl? How many had a Heisman winner?
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Geeez. This thread drops with conference-envy
Jul 26, 2014, 6:33 PM
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I love it
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Drips****
Jul 26, 2014, 6:33 PM
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I think its hilarious that the only way you can see
Jul 26, 2014, 7:05 PM
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the world is through the lens of your conference, and assume since you are blind and dependent that everyone else is also.
Being born a #### is proof that God is a God of Justice, and being born a Tiger is proof that God is a God of mercy.
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Good one
Jul 26, 2014, 7:14 PM
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Let me know when you want to talk football like an adult
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Just wait right there i'll be right back.
Jul 26, 2014, 7:42 PM
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don't' move a muscle
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 7:39 PM
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Really? Please furnish me with your evidence that this happened,
Again: how do you explain your record?
My numbers come from mcubed.net, wher did yours come from?
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 7:43 PM
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If you want to bait a dirtpecker to respond , anything with the letters S E and C will do. They stand ready to defend all of those good teams that they shlep with. I guess when you can't have it you go play at thae kids house who can have it.
Po Bastads.
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 7:45 PM
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Are Clemson's losses to GT in Atl while in the SEC included in that number? just interested to know.
Also, I find it interesting that you pick one team against a whole conference worth of teams to make an argument about Hype.
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 8:04 PM
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> Are Clemson's losses to GT in Atl while in the SEC
> included in that number interested to know.
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> Also, I find it interesting that you pick one team
> against a whole conference worth of teams to make an
> argument about Hype.
I picked CU because you are the team with the most championships in the ACC. Now can you answer the question?
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 8:21 PM
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What question? I asked you a question
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 10:58 PM
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most championships in the ACC has a good ring to it, even coming from a coot!
better than 5th place rings
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 9:25 PM
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Garnet,
Our record is what is because we mostly play the powers of the SEC like UGA, Auburn, Bama, LSU and UT. Other than SC--who we have a dominant record against---we rarely play the bottom feeders of the conference.
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 9:44 PM
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> Garnet,
> Our record is what is because we mostly play the
> powers of the SEC like UGA, Auburn, Bama, LSU and UT.
> Other than SC--who we have a dominant record
> against---we rarely play the bottom feeders of the
> conference.
Check your record, you don't have a winnig record there .
Next......
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 9:55 PM
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Don't have a winning record where? Against SC? What stats are you lookin at?
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 8:25 PM
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 8:56 PM
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> mcubed.net is wrong
Oh, well even the other records shown show a losing record.
Again the question: how do you explain your record against a confrence you say is overrated ?
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 10:16 PM
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IMO, the SEC is very top heavy. The big complaint about the SEC is that they feast on FCS teams and don’t play as many good teams OOC. (here is where I know you will say Clemson was OOC) Some of that stereotype is true and some of it isn’t. SEC was second in terms of the number of games played against FCS competition in 2013, playing a total of 14 FCS teams.
since the start of the BCS era in 1998 the conference has overall losing records against the Pac-12 (11-12) and Big East (19-23) and superior but not dominating records against other major conferences? Might the nationwide perception of SEC superiority simply be part of a well-constructed ESPN business plan meant to protect and enhance the network’s $2.25 billion partnership with the SEC?
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Re: Clemson has been pursued by the SEC. They just couldn't
Jul 26, 2014, 10:34 PM
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> IMO, the SEC is very top heavy.
And the ACC isn't? The ACC is dominated by CU & FSU.
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why do you keep changing the subject?..
Jul 26, 2014, 10:54 PM
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I answered your question which was about the SEC and I provided an answer. You get an answer and try to switch it to another question. But I will answer you next question...yes the ACC is top heavy. You don't get the answer you want and you try to swing it around to something else.
Now that I have answered your quetion, you can answer mine. How do YOU explain YOUR record against a confrence you say is not overrated? Are you coots just not as good as you think they are?
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Re: why do you keep changing the subject?..
Jul 26, 2014, 11:44 PM
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How do YOU explain YOUR record against a
> conference you say is not overrated?
Simple, we were not at the same level of ability to compleat in the SEC. We got beat.
Please repeat your answer, I have looked and don't see an answer, just excuse after excuse.
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Re: why do you keep changing the subject?..
Jul 27, 2014, 12:19 AM
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can you not read? I gave you an answer
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Re: why do you keep changing the subject?..
Jul 27, 2014, 9:47 AM
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Garnet,
You were given very logical answers to your question, but they just weren't the answers you wanted. So, now that you've finally provided that to us, please explain to us why SC has a losing record in the ACC and to almost every team in the conference including Duke, yet you still want to call the ACC weak?
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Re: Geeez, like you were dropped on your head!
Jul 26, 2014, 10:53 PM
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probably intentionally.
lost coot? go drip-drop from your roost all night & peck at it tomorrow!
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My honest opinion-
Jul 26, 2014, 9:18 PM
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With exception of the Bama-LSU year, the Nat. champ teams that came from the sec are deserving in my opinion. That being said, I have formed a considerable resentment against the sec. The thought that the rest of the teams are all of the sudden better because the confrence has had a run with the campionships is beyond me. With the networks promoting this concept it becomes incestuous and eventually becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy with the pre-season rankings, the overloaded computer SOS rankings, and the political pull some have in the human votes.
Is the ACC stronger b/c FSU won? Has anyone of note given any credit to the ACC as a conf because FSU won? The answer is a resounding NO. And I think that is the way it should be.
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Re: My honest opinion-
Jul 26, 2014, 9:59 PM
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A honest, and well thought-out post, and I agree with many of your points. However if a powerful member of the ACC can't post a winning record against the "bottom half" of the SEC, then the overall strength of the SEC is not overrated.
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All-TigerNet [13359]
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I am assuming you have an example-
Jul 26, 2014, 10:04 PM
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or is this just the typical BS you guys normally fall back on? I hope its not the later.
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Crickets...***
Jul 27, 2014, 8:41 AM
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Re: My honest opinion-
Jul 26, 2014, 10:31 PM
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Garnet,
Fact is, we've very rarely played the "bottom half" of the SEC. Especially since the '90s when all this conference pride crap started. We've played UK three times and Miss St once and that's it. Hardly a large enough sample size to make a comparison.
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Re: My honest opinion-
Jul 26, 2014, 10:58 PM
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Especially since the '90s
Limiting the sample size, just the same thing that Tnetters complain about when talking about recent rivalry games.
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Re: My honest opinion-
Jul 26, 2014, 11:15 PM
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You have to go back into the 60's before you'll find another bottom level SEC team besides UK or Miss St that we've played. Do you really want to base your case on stats from the 60's? I simply mentioned the 90's because that's when SC joined the SEC and like I said, all this conference pride crap started.
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Re: My honest opinion-
Jul 26, 2014, 11:51 PM
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. Do you really want to base your
> case on stats from the 60's?
Why not, I see that reasoning all the time when it serves your purpose.
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Re: My honest opinion- Thanks TigerJim76!!!
Jul 26, 2014, 10:49 PM
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i just thought it was great you reminded us about the record against the coots: "first 50 or 60 games WERE ALL PLAYED in chickenville" !!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
that just makes it all a little better...good things to come for the Tigers too
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Re: My honest opinion-
Jul 27, 2014, 1:02 AM
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In order to respond to that, one would have to know what year or decade you are referring to. The powerful memebers of the ACC and the bottom half of the SEC does not stay the same yr after year.
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No, but way over-hyped***
Jul 26, 2014, 10:05 PM
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Re: No, but way over-hyped***
Jul 26, 2014, 10:48 PM
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Strong argument, and I tend to to agree somewhat. But I feel that the SEC has won the games on the field.
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Re: No, but way over-hyped***
Jul 26, 2014, 11:19 PM
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Garnet,
You mean Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF, UGA & UT have won the games on the field. All the other teams? Not so much.
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How many SEC teams could have won ACC Coastal last year?
Jul 27, 2014, 1:02 AM
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10 is the correct answer, I believe
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Cocklover...
Jul 27, 2014, 1:10 AM
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I'm thinking Tennessee would have won the ACC Championship. Or Georgia. Those teams were awesome.
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How many ACC teams could have won EITHER SEC divisions?
Jul 27, 2014, 1:09 AM
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1 is the correct answer .
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How many SEC teams could Tennessee beat?
Jul 27, 2014, 1:12 AM
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2 is the correct answer. Kentucky and...
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Guess how many SEC teams could have won the MNC?
Jul 27, 2014, 8:33 AM
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The answer is Zero.
There are 4 acc teams that could've won the sec east and 1 that could've won the west.
There are 6-7 sec teams that could've won the acc coastal
And Zero sec teams that could win the ACC Atlantic.
This is fun! Thanks for bringing this game. Can we do B1G next?
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Haha! Thank you for that***
Jul 27, 2014, 11:06 AM
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Re: Is the SEC Overrated?
Jul 27, 2014, 4:15 AM
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Yep, b/c of one team as in Bama, has the sec hype of being the best and strongest conference in college FB. Take Bama and put them in the acc with Clemson and FSU would = the best FB conference IMO....
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