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Bama can be ranked 4th tonight, means nothing
Nov 12, 2019, 9:52 AM
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They can even be ranked 4th while they are sitting at home on Championship weekend watching Utah, Oregon, and Oklahoma. But in the only ranking that matters, the last one, they arent taking an 11-1 non champ over a 12-1 Conference Champ that has more signature wins than Bama.
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Re: Bama can be ranked 4th tonight, means nothing
Nov 12, 2019, 9:57 AM
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You may be correct but.....
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It is interesting to remember that fact
Nov 12, 2019, 9:58 AM
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As opposed to the traditional AP style poll where teams seldom move down when they win or don't play, the CFP committee has shown the willingness to move teams down if other teams who were behind them achieve something worthy of note in their eyes.
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Re: Bama can be ranked 4th tonight, means nothing
Nov 12, 2019, 9:59 AM
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I think 11-1 Alabama will get in. It’s Alabama. The name, the history, the reputation will not be ignored by the committee.
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Re: Bama can be ranked 4th tonight, means nothing
Nov 12, 2019, 10:03 AM
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I could see something crazy happening and Bama getting in if there is only 1 other 1-loss team to compare them to.
What I don't see happening is multiple 1-loss conference champions being left out in favor of Bama.
If Big12 and Pac12 finish with 1 loss champions, then Bama is out.
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I think you are probably right, but it's troubling to me if
Nov 12, 2019, 10:04 AM
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they have Bama or UGA 4. It would mean that their bias is extremely relevant. Having Minnesota at 17 was thoroughly stupid.
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Re: Bama can be ranked 4th tonight, means nothing
Nov 12, 2019, 10:06 AM
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I think you're exactly right. Unfortunately, that won't stop people from going crazy tonight when Bama ends up at the #4 spot. The committee has explained in the past that conference championships are taken into account, but they can only consider those championships once they actually happen. This means for instance that they won't try to predict the future by giving credit to Oregon for winning the PAC 12, but once Oregon beats Utah(or the other way around) they would most likely jump over Bama.
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Re: Bama can be ranked 4th tonight, means nothing
Nov 12, 2019, 10:10 AM
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Exactly. The Oregon/Utah winner would have a top 10 win and a conference championship, both of which Alabama wouldn't have. Plus an extra win. The same thing could be said of Baylor/Oklahoma. One of them would have a top 10 or top 20 win, an extra win and a conference championship.
As long as Oregon and Utah both win out and face each other as top 10 teams in the PAC 12, the winner will jump an idle #4 Alabama. Baylor could make it very interesting is they are able to beat Oklahoma twice and win the Big 12 championship. Same could be said of Oklahoma. If the Sooners beat Baylor twice and win the Big 12 championship.
Who would the committee take for the fourth and final spot?
Oregon (12-1) Pac 12 champion with a top 10 win over Utah or Oklahoma (12-1) Big 12 champion with a top 10-15 win over Baylor, twice?
I would think Oregon
Utah (12-1) Pac 12 champion with a top 10 win over Oregon or Oklahoma (12-1) Big 12 champion with a top 10-15 win over Baylor, twice?
I would go with Utah
The only way I could see a Big 12 champion overtaking the Pac 12 champion with one loss and a top 10 win would be if Baylor were able to beat Oklahoma twice and win the Big 12 championship. It would be impossible to deny Baylor ar 13-0 with 2 top 10 or top 15 wins over Oklahoma.
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If LSU, Oregon, O31O State, OU and Clemson all win out
Nov 12, 2019, 10:10 AM
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Bama ain't getting in.
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Re: If LSU, Oregon, O31O State, OU and Clemson all win out
Nov 12, 2019, 12:08 PM
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Why does everyone keep excluding a 1-loss Utah? If they win out, then they are the Pac-12 champion at 12-1. I think they have to be included too.
Also, as average as Minnesota looks, if they win out, then they are the Big10 champion at 13-0. How can anyone exclude them yet?
Now if UGA wins out, they will be 12-1 and the SEC champion, but in that case I think LSU gets in over Bama if LSU is 12-1.
Even Baylor, in spite of their struggles could end up at 13-0, so they're still in.
Penn State would probably be an extreme long shot and I doubt they have a prayer, but if they manage to defeat OSU in a couple of weeks, then they might be the front runner in the Big10 and still in it.
Unfortunately, the other 1-loss teams that could win out will not even sniff the CFP due to lack of "body of work" or level of competition.
I don't see any other contenders at this point though.
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I was going to say, Baylor is still sitting there undefeated***
Nov 12, 2019, 12:10 PM
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True..but you're post is alot of what ifs
Nov 12, 2019, 10:13 AM
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Still way too much football to play to worry about the rankings.
No guarantee that LSU, OSU, or even Clemson will make it.
And why worry? Disney gets paid to talk about this stuff on their 800 tv platforms. We don't. Ain't a durn thing we can do but watch the games and wait.
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Re: Bama can be ranked 4th tonight, means nothing
Nov 12, 2019, 10:24 AM
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What is tough for people to remember is that games not played yet do not matter in this poll. Technically, Alabama could still go to and win the SEC championship, though it is highly unlikely with LSU's remaining schedule. I think that the committee will rank them 4, but look for a chance to move them back, unless losses by other teams opens a door.
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