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Orange Blooded [2584]
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BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 10:27 AM
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You did not beat Tennessee plus Alabama always deserves a bid.
With your love fest with the SEC you finished 4th.
SEC got another bid as did the ACC.
SEC = sugar automatic
ACC = orange automatic
both had a team in NC !
How simple can it be !!!!
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 10:37 AM
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Never attempt logic or facts with a Coot. It confuses them.
Jan 5, 2014, 10:37 AM
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 10:47 AM
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acc = duke lost acc championship
sec = missouri lost sec championship
Alabama = 2nd highest ranked sec team
Clemson = 2nd highest ranked acc team
so simple a Scar fan should understand !
Oh wait ! I forget most USC fans did not graduate high school !
Go away please and go back to the board to can read and understand !
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 10:59 AM
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I completely agree that losing to UT is why we were not in one. Or at least why we didn't have a chance to play for one. However, to leave out the 2 teams per conference rule, is unfair to the discussion. That rule is also a huge part of why we have not gotten one.
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Re:Chickens have never been satisfied with rules. Everyone
Jan 5, 2014, 11:05 AM
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is always against them.
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Orange Blooded [2929]
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That's what they say every year***
Jan 5, 2014, 12:16 PM
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Like I staeted below, they have a problem with the rules
Jan 5, 2014, 12:30 PM
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Isn't EVERYONE playing by the same rules?
In 2011 and 2012, their coach whined because they beat every team in their division and somehow should have been the division champs while losing to the real teams they drew out of the west.
This year they got the easy teams out of the west but couldn't handle UGA, it's priceless.
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In all honesty it is a good rule
Jan 5, 2014, 11:12 AM
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because because it would be unfair for the SEC to routinely get 4 of the 10 spots.
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Why would it be unfair if the sec has the best teams
Jan 5, 2014, 11:14 AM
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Because it is completely subjective since most sec teams won't schedule tough out of conference match ups
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Outside of the national championship game
Jan 5, 2014, 11:16 AM
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the BCS bowls aren't designed to match up the best teams. They are designed to spread the wealth that comes from the BCS.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 11:24 AM
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The reason you have not gotten one is because you can't finish higher than fourth in your conference.
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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The game will soon be over but the 4th place rings are
Jan 5, 2014, 8:41 PM
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forever.
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The two teams per conference rule is there to protect
Jan 5, 2014, 11:25 AM
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the inherent bias in polls. The SEC gets the benefit of the doubt with obscene rankings that don't reflect reality. You don't have to go back any further than 2011's shutting out of OK State for Bama for the MNC because of the "perception" that a 1-loss SEC teams was better than a similar Big 12 team. "Reality" over the last two years, as Big 12 teams have moved in and owned the SEC, plus OK's trouncing Bama in the Sugar, illustrate beautifully the fallacy of rankings and the perfectly logical cap of only two teams per conference.
Congrats on beating #19 Wisconsin - your first win ever over a Top 20 team in a bowl game. And congrats on having a coach who insulted the Cap On bowl staff by subjugating that victory and contest to the series against us. It's lost on most people that Dabo's retort was a compliment to the Orange Bowl, while Spurrier was insulting the Cap On Bowl. Eat it up.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 11:31 AM
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I don't have a problem with the rule. The BCS was designed to make money for all the major conferences and the rule ensures that. I would rather us beat UT than change the rule. The rule is a part if the discussion, though.
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Even if you'd beaten UT, you still would have NOT gotten
Jan 5, 2014, 9:11 PM
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a BCS bid.
1. You would have lost to Auburn in the SEC Title Game.
2. Alabama would have still gotten the Sugar Bowl.
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Re: Even if you'd beaten UT, you still would have NOT gotten
Jan 5, 2014, 9:26 PM
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I said above that beating ut would have given us a shot to play for one.
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You mean a shot at beating Auburn? Not a chance...***
Jan 5, 2014, 9:30 PM
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Re: You mean a shot at beating Auburn? Not a chance...***
Jan 5, 2014, 10:25 PM
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Decent chance though I would rather had played bama. Auburns offense is a bad matchup for us but they are not that good. This actually is the down year for the SEC, at least as far as having thst one great team thats usually there. The top group are good but none are great. UT probably blew our best chance ever to win it.
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Smoke this, coot. New playoff system will involve only 1
Jan 5, 2014, 11:01 PM
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team per conference. Or at least hope it works that way. There is no reason to take two teams from the same conference. The purpose of the playoffs is to find the best team in the country. The best team in the country cannot be the 2nd best team in a conference. A conference should be able to choose the ONE team they want to send to the playoffs.
That pretty well ensure that we will NEVER see U$UC in playoff. And this will ensure that we never see LSU vs. Bama in yet another game of the century. Seen that once or twice. Do NOT need to ever see that again.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 11:14 PM
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You cant have it both ways. You can not have the benefits of being in the SEC without the negative aspects of playing in that conference. You could join The American.
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Yes we finished higher in our conference.
Jan 5, 2014, 11:04 AM
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Their argument is they finished ahead of us in the rankings and would have been picked ahead of us if they were eligible. I can see both sides. Unfortunately for them, they have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
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They lost to Tennessee, like always, they lose
Jan 5, 2014, 11:07 AM
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a game they shouldn't and want to blame the system. They can't help it'
At 1-21 Lou told them they'd win any other conference any they forever bought that BS.
Slurrier has been crying the last 3 years that they beat every team in their division, those cross division games shouldn't count and they bought that.
Now they have to grasp onto the fact that they couldn't win it(BCS), the system screwed them again.
Fact is , Clemson earned their way into the OB. No matter what anyone says, they earned it. Clemson could have finished 10-2 with a loss to either BC,NCS,Virginia,UMD or ANY OTHER ACC team and would have not gotten the OB BCS bid.
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Everyone, TOOKIE's pi$$ed with my post and is TMailing again
Jan 5, 2014, 12:12 PM
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Priceless
"What's in your wallet" , right up there with "you want fries with that " and "how gas you want sir "
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Orange Blooded [2929]
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Tookie's an idiot.***
Jan 5, 2014, 12:13 PM
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Yes he is.***
Jan 5, 2014, 12:13 PM
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So was TOOGIE ... coincidence?
Jan 5, 2014, 8:36 PM
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The SC situation actually reminds me of Aladdin
Jan 5, 2014, 11:10 AM
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The part where Jafar wishes to be a genie
Aladdin: You want to be a genie? You got it!
[cufflinks form on Jafar's wrists]
Jafar: What?
Aladdin: And everything that goes with it!
[Aladdin shows the black genie lamp that sucks Jafar in]
Jafar: NO! NO!
Iago: I'm getting out of here!
[Iago tries to flee, but Jafar grabs him]
Aladdin: Phenomenal cosmic powers.
[Jafar and Iago get sucked into the lamp]
Aladdin: Itty-bitty living space.
You want to be in the SEC? You get phenomenal cosmic media hype, star-crossed recruits that want to play in your conference, and... itty-bitty living space.
AKA there are a bunch of other programs just as good or better than your own all jammed into one conference, and everyone is stepping on each other trying to get to the top for one of those 2 spots in the big show. Don't like it? Go somewhere else.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 11:12 AM
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rules and laws are there for those that do not understand fairness and have no morality. Not for the ones that do what is right but for that will take advantage or have no moral compass about them.
ESPN and SEC great examples $$$$$ too.
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In all honesty...
Jan 5, 2014, 11:19 AM
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If there was no two team per conference rule, we would have just beat South Carolina instead of using that extra week to prepare for the Orange Bowl. Either way, we would have received the invite.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 11:33 AM
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I realize you did everything to make this understandable for coots fans but would suggest you add some pictures next time.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 11:45 AM
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When the final rankings come back -
Clemson's two losses will be to the number 1 team and a top 10 team.
SC will have lost to 2 unranked teams. I guess this should be termed "chicken ing". Aka - losing to teams not ranked.
Clemson bowl win was over a team ranked in the top 3 most of the year.
SC will have beaten a 19th ranked team from the big 10 - which we all know is marginal at best. And I must add - lost to Ohio state.
BCS got it right. Teams with multiple losses to unranked teams - don't belong.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 7:03 PM
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Honestly, that is probably a very fair way to look at it although I still think that without the rule we would have been in. You're right, though. Lost two winnable games, one of which should have been a fairly easy win.
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without the 2 per conference limit, which BCS bowl would
Jan 5, 2014, 9:14 PM
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have picked you?
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Re: without the 2 per conference limit, which BCS bowl would
Jan 5, 2014, 9:24 PM
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Orange? Fiesta? The two with teams we had already beaten and were ranked higher than.
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Orange wanted us (+ ACC tie in), UCF got an automatic bid.
Jan 5, 2014, 10:56 PM
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I didn't say all the rules were changed, just the 2 teams max.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 11:54 AM
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SC wasn't in a BCS bowl because they didn't take care of the business that they needed to care of to be there. It is pretty simple.
Just like Clemson isn't in the National Championship game because they didn't take care of the business they needed to take care of to be there.
So as all of you have pointed out, SC can't brag about winning (or even going to) a BCS bowl game. They can't brag out winning a conference championship.
So, we will just have to brag about being better than Clemson as proven on the field.
Hey, maybe it isn't much. But SC is absolutely the best team in the state of South Carolina. So I guess for now we will just have to live with that.
Enjoy your Orange Bowl Victory! It is definitely something you guys should celebrate!
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 11:55 AM
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The problem is.....the SEC has many BCS bowl teams available. The ACC has only 1. That team made it to the national championship teams opening up a slot for undeserving teams and Clemson got that slot. The entire nation knows we are better than Clemson because we beat you...and we will be ranked ahead of you...and we beat 2 teams that won BCS bowl games. The loss to Tennessee was tragic but that is life in the SEC unlike life in the ACC. That is not smack. It is college football facts as the nation sees it. When the final poll comes out and the fact we beat you still will not make it clear to you but so be it ! Everyone else in the free world knows it.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 12:03 PM
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It has been well documented, but let me state it again for you.
SC is excited about being a good football team in SC.
Clemson is excited about being a great football team in the entire nation.
Congrats on beating a 2nd rate team in a 2nd rate (maybe 3rd) bowl.
As for BCS bowl - you might want to start beating unranked teams. You might want to beat - the best teams in your own conference. Alabama, LSU, Auburn, T AM. Oh wait, you did not even play the best teams in your own conference. AND - you still lost to 2 unranked ones.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 12:10 PM
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Clenzn1981,
You are right, SC does need to start doing those things. Will they? Who knows. The certainly didn't this year and that is why SC fans don't have a BCS trophy to brag about.
So for now, we just have to brag about being the best team in the state. Which we are.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 12:14 PM
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If you are rated better(higher) by the nation and we beat you head to head where does all this we are better than you junk come from ? I'm sorry...I am dealing with facts...I guess facts don't apply. Just a made up mindset applies here. It's OK...what ever makes you feel better...outside of the truth that is.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 12:16 PM
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hey moronic you lost to tenn for gods sake
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Via Coot Logic: Tenn > SCar. It's really just that simple.***
Jan 5, 2014, 12:18 PM
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 12:21 PM
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Let me ask you a question and see if you can give me an objective answer.
You lost to NC State last year. Lets say you had beaten SC.
So you lost to NC State but you beat SC and that would have put you ranked ahead of SC at the end of the season.
Would you have thought South Carolina was better than Clemson simply because you lost to NC State, and unranked team?
SC losing to Tenn was terrible for SC fans. But it means nothing when it comes to saying that SC is better than Clemson. Five years in a row proves that. The final rankings prove that.
SC will end up ranked higher than Clemson IN SPITE of losing to Tennessee. Think about that.
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Re: BCS and why Scar was not there !
Jan 5, 2014, 7:13 PM
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like you coots make up "national bowl winners"????!!!
LOL!!!! get your coot heads out of each other's a$$es...
did you 2 call each other first before you came over here to hold hands together & have a little cootpride parade...?
awwwww...how USuCk
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The "entire nation" has already forgotten about you.
Jan 5, 2014, 12:13 PM
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Sorry, but it's true. At this point all "everyone else in the free world" cares about is the game Monday night. After that, it's simply a matter of where your own team finished in the rankings. You talk as if people outside of Cootville care about SCar. They don't. That's not "life in the SEC" either, it's SCar's life.
Forget "Cocking" your way out of national relevance by losing to UT this year, or an overrated FL team last year, or Auburn the year before that - each costing a division title and a shot at playing for the natty. You have a lot to be happy about. 11 wins again. Top 10 ranking. "5 in a row." You all should be giddy to the point of wetting yourselves.
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Congrats Tigers
Jan 5, 2014, 12:08 PM
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This was a big win no doubt. And I'll admit it does bring some level of legitimacy to your season...
Having said that, what room does Clem have to beat their chests to Gamecock fans. Beat us on the field first.
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When you idiots stop coming on our board
Jan 5, 2014, 7:12 PM
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we'll stop talking to you.
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Re: Congrats Tigers
Jan 5, 2014, 7:17 PM
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it's OUR board shamecluck moron!
you are trying to crow & strut here, not the other way around. GTFO!
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Re: Congrats Tigers
Jan 5, 2014, 8:48 PM
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Not beating our chest to anyone. That's is for low class Carolina fans. Congrats on your state championship. Here in your glory days of football must be frustrating that nobody cares. Sad to see Spurrier satisfied with state championships and Capitol ( Coot) bowl wins when his previous standards were NC's. Might explain the alcoholism. Love the bright red nose.
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..unknowingly perhaps..the SC fans are kind of.....
Jan 5, 2014, 8:47 PM
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...alluding to the idea that their is a glass ceiling of sorts in the SEC FB realm, and that the gamecocks have about as much chance of ever breaking as does Ole Miss, Miss State, Arkansas, Kentucky and Vanderbilt, who have been trying for almost 100 years now and have very little to show for it. SC is now part of the SEC underclass. Look at UGA, far and away better than SC and yet they average an SEC title once every 15 years......
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Yep, and our schedule was arguably tougher, though, with
Jan 5, 2014, 8:49 PM
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how UCF finished, prolly pretty even.
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If not for FSU being in NC game
Jan 5, 2014, 9:19 PM
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we would not have been in Orange bowl. We got lucky to get in. But, we delivered!
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Sugar Bowl wanted Clemson also.***
Jan 5, 2014, 9:27 PM
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