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Are they misstating Seneca River?
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Are they misstating Seneca River?


Oct 4, 2017, 8:32 PM

My understanding is the Seneca and Tugaloo are dammed to form Hartwell. So in the news reports about the crash, are they actually talking about swimming across the moat? As many times as I've been down there, I have no idea what body of water they're talking about.

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Oct 4, 2017, 8:35 PM

It is the old Seneca river bed, whick is reduced to the "moat" by damming, etc.

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Oct 4, 2017, 8:36 PM

Yes. The moat around the football facilities is technically the seneca river, I believe.

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Oct 4, 2017, 8:36 PM

The moat is the Seneca River... ever wonder what the dikes are?

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The moat is the Seneca river


Oct 4, 2017, 8:36 PM

If the dikes weren't built, the practice fields and part of DV would be under water

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The moat is the Seneca river


Oct 4, 2017, 8:36 PM

If the dikes weren't built, the practice fields and part of DV would be under water

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The moat is the Seneca river


Oct 4, 2017, 8:36 PM

If the dikes weren't built, the practice fields and part of DV would be under water

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Oct 4, 2017, 9:17 PM

and if it weren't for some huge pumps the practice fields and death valley would still be under water.

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Theres one good reason to sit in the upper deck.


Oct 5, 2017, 6:51 AM [ in reply to The moat is the Seneca river ]

On the other hand, I wouldnt mind treading water all game while eating Dippin Dots.

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Oct 5, 2017, 6:52 AM [ in reply to The moat is the Seneca river ]

Yeah, but what would happen if the dikes weren't built?

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Anybody know what would happen to the practice fields and


Oct 5, 2017, 11:46 AM [ in reply to The moat is the Seneca river ]

part of DV if they hadn't built the dikes?

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it's the Seneca River Basin


Oct 4, 2017, 9:30 PM

where the Seneca River used to flow before the lake was built. It is not a natural body of water anymore, it is campus storm drainage. Entire campus collects to there.

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"The Moat" as it is generally called was a diversion canal


Oct 4, 2017, 10:16 PM

built when the dykes were being built to save Clemson's campus.

It was left after the lake was filled up.

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seems like I remember reading that had those


Oct 4, 2017, 11:20 PM

Dikes not been built, the lake would have essentially come up to within a hundred yards of Calhoun Mansion.

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Oct 4, 2017, 11:19 PM

Don't know about the accident, but a river does not cease to be a river because it is dammed up.
I know the bridge over Hartwell going toward Seneca from Clemson had and maybe still has a sign "Seneca River."

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Here is a map to help clear up the River/Moat question...


Oct 4, 2017, 11:59 PM

IT IS BEST DEFINED AS THE OLD SENECA RIVER CHANNEL...

The original plan in creating Lake Hartwell was to flood all areas below 660 feet in elevation, which would have impacted many of Clemson University's experimental agricultural fields and also put part of Clemson's Death Valley Football Stadium under water. To avoid this problem, two large earthen dams (usually referred to as 'dikes') were built to cut off the existing Seneca River
Channel and keep the rising water off Clemson land, and a brand new channel for the Seneca River was
cut through a lower section of land farther west of campus.



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Exactly ... it's just what's left of the old river bed ...


Oct 5, 2017, 12:12 AM

... between the two dikes.

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Oct 5, 2017, 12:28 PM [ in reply to Here is a map to help clear up the River/Moat question... ]

Great explanation and that map is really helpful. I know a river doesn't cease to exist if it's dammed, I just thought it was funny they referred to the static moat as a river.

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It is an original portion of the Seneca river.


Oct 5, 2017, 8:14 AM

If you go to historicaerials.com, you can see what the route of the Seneca river used to be like in 1947 and 1959 before Lake Hartwell was formed.

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Oct 5, 2017, 9:35 AM

Whatever the correct terminology, I pulled some nice bass out of there years ago...

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Oct 5, 2017, 11:11 AM

Where does the water in moat drain to now? Is it pumped up to Lake Hartwell?

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