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Dabo, best
Aug 23, 2013, 10:17 AM
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Coach since coach Ford.
It's nice to feel like we got a real coach for a change.
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Re: Dabo, best
Aug 23, 2013, 11:47 AM
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How about a guy who is deeply religious, shares his Christian faith with his players and all over the nation, does things the right way, is never an embarrassment to his school, and has to clean up a daunting probational mess by the previous coach. He wins an ACC Championship, has 3 of his 4 teams in the top 25 final rankings, and has a 70% winning percentage at Clemson! Please say hello to Ken Hatfield, the most unappreciated and falsely maligned Tiger coach in history. He was literally run out of town (he resigned because of lack of support) because he didn't fit the banjo-booster's image of a "real Tiger". Incidentally, Dabo's winning percentage at Clemson is 66%.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Am I grown old so quickly that I forgot?
Aug 23, 2013, 12:23 PM
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Perhaps I've just deluded myself but I seem to remember Ken's teams going downhill from day one as his recruits became more and more involved.
If you'll do the research and show me I'm wrong I'll alter my perception of Ken and give him some respect as a coach.
I appreciate that he was a moral pillar and good for what we needed in that area.
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Orange Blooded [2394]
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He had me at "deeply religious" because nothing spells
Aug 23, 2013, 12:25 PM
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success like being "deeply religious"! Can't be successful any other way!! Hear that heathen losers!
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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I definitely want God on my side.***
Aug 23, 2013, 11:52 PM
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CU Guru [1838]
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Much like the day the Cowboys fired Landry,
Aug 23, 2013, 12:27 PM
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I stopped being a Clemson fan that year. Now remember, this was way before Al Gore invented the internet so I had no idea of the recruiting issues and other internal issues. All I knew was they fired a good Christian man who didn't chew or cuss but went 9-2.
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Orange Blooded [2394]
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And my dislike of the Cowboys only grew stronger....
Aug 23, 2013, 12:29 PM
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I still have my mid 70's Tom Landry comic book teaching Bob Hayes and Roger Staubach the right way to live life. Big time Steelers fan, but always respected Landry.
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Oculus Spirit [96848]
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You obviosuly have no clue what was happening during the
Aug 23, 2013, 12:30 PM
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Hatfield years. He won games with Ford's recruits, and took a program that could have competed for the national championship in 1990 and basically ran it in the ground.
He screwed up long standing relationships with high school coaches which took years to rebuild.
Also, I heard from one of his players that his practices were a cakewalk compared to Ford's.
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From the stories I've heard from my dad, it seems that any
Aug 23, 2013, 12:45 PM
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coach's practice compared to Ford's would be a cake walk. This was obviously before practices were dictated by the NCAA though...
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110%er [6639]
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Tell 'em coot
Aug 23, 2013, 12:40 PM
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smh
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CU Guru [1838]
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because he stuck up for Hatfield, he's a Coot?***
Aug 23, 2013, 12:42 PM
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Hey man, you are either with the Mange, or an obvious coot.
Aug 23, 2013, 12:49 PM
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It's simple really. The masses on here cannot think for themselves, so any opinion that isn't the common opinion is one of a coot.
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All-TigerNet [10871]
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Salem witch trials ain't got nothing on us!***
Aug 23, 2013, 12:53 PM
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Oculus Spirit [96848]
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Rock Defender [53]
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Anyone who thinks Hatfield was a good coach is either a
Aug 23, 2013, 1:11 PM
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#### or a deranged lunatic. It just so happens cootstripe777 (a.k.a. "GamecockWill") is both. What about you?
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CU Guru [1838]
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Let's see. While i was serving our country in the USAF
Aug 23, 2013, 1:31 PM
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stationed in Arkansas, he was 55-17-1 with the Hogs and well liked as a "good Christian man". He came to Clemson, I was excited about the possibilities. He goes 32-13-1. His two big gigs equals 87-30-2 or 73%. What's Dabo's? and you are ready to canonize him as a saint?
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CU Guru [1142]
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Re: Let's see. While i was serving our country in the USAF
Aug 23, 2013, 2:27 PM
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Don't forget that Hatfield began the success at the Air Force Academy, which his OC, SC native Fischer DeBerry, brought to fruition.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Don't care about Arkansas....
Aug 23, 2013, 9:12 PM
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The Clemson program under Hatfield fell apart. He had NFL players all over the roster when he got here, and steadily declined in play. Hatfield sucked at Clemson, period. There's a reason he was relegated to Rice, where he also sucked, and he retired as a nobody.
Nice try though, ####.
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Re: Anyone who thinks Hatfield was a good coach is either a
Aug 23, 2013, 2:30 PM
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You might want to check the man's record, Einstein. He won big at AF, AR, and Clemson, before slipping into mediocrity with the Rice Owls. His record at Clemson is better than Dabo's!
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Rock Defender [53]
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LOL at GamecockWill calling someone "Einstein".........
Aug 23, 2013, 9:14 PM
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What were Ken's 3 best wins at Clemson, cootstripe777?
You need help dude. Seriously.
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Re: Anyone who thinks Hatfield was a good coach is either a
Aug 24, 2013, 1:32 AM
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Any decent coach could have won with the talent that he had when he arrived here,but the program began to falter when coach Fords talent was gone!
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Rock Defender [53]
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Nope. He's a c0cklover because, well,
Aug 23, 2013, 9:17 PM
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He loves the c0cks. His charade as a Clemson fan reeks of some serious mental issues. He's GamecockWill in case you're wondering. Been hanging out here with the same deranged spiel for years. Several fries short of a happy meal, but then again anyone who knows Will already knew that.
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CU Guru [1142]
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Re: Nope. He's a c0cklover because, well,
Aug 24, 2013, 7:34 AM
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Hey, Dr. nummnutts! Got any more cool names for me? Hey, I know! Try MCB and you'll get it right! I do admit, though, I really enjoy getting under your thin, overemotional skin.
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He's GONE Get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug 23, 2013, 2:29 PM
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GO TIGERS!!!!!
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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We excuse your stupidity but he used up Danny's players for
Aug 23, 2013, 11:51 PM
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those victories. BTW I am not a Hatfield brasher because he was a good coach, excellent person and was handicapped by some "fans" in recruiting. Hard to follow a legend.
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Re: Dabo, best
Aug 24, 2013, 1:19 AM
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probational mess? what are you talking about?the investigation in 1989-90 of Clemsons football program turned up absolutely nothing.Ken Hatfield was successful until coach Fords talent ran out and then the program begin to sink
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MVP [533]
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These are the days of our lives.***
Aug 23, 2013, 9:19 PM
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