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Anyone understand how Forbes ranks universities? #153
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Anyone understand how Forbes ranks universities? #153


Jul 25, 2013, 1:42 PM

http://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/list/#page:1_sort:0_direction:asc_search:_filter:All%20states

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Re: Anyone understand how Forbes ranks universities? #153


Jul 25, 2013, 1:46 PM

http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinehoward/2013/07/24/ranking-americas-top-colleges-2013/

Mainly focused on ROI.

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Listing of State schools by ROI has Clemson #1 and PC #2


Jul 25, 2013, 2:04 PM

so that cannot be entirely correct

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Re: Listing of State schools by ROI has Clemson #1 and PC #2


Jul 25, 2013, 2:10 PM

Rank of schools in order for SC is:

Wofford #119 overall
Furman
Clemson
SC
Citadel
PC
CoC
N. Greenville
Coastal
Claflin
SC State #648 overall

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State schools or in-state schools?***


Jul 25, 2013, 2:25 PM



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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


I'm talking a seperate ranking


Jul 25, 2013, 2:54 PM [ in reply to Re: Listing of State schools by ROI has Clemson #1 and PC #2 ]

by Bloomberg Business. A list of colleges in SC by ROI. Clemson is by far #1 with PC at #2.

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Re: Anyone understand how Forbes ranks universities? #153


Jul 25, 2013, 2:07 PM [ in reply to Re: Anyone understand how Forbes ranks universities? #153 ]

I wiould take a wild guess and say Barker focused orn rigging US News results and forgot to do the same for this one. ;)

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Re: Anyone understand how Forbes ranks universities? #153


Jul 25, 2013, 2:25 PM

This list includes Private Schools. The Top 20 US News goal was just among Public Schools.

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Re: Do you want to tell us how you arrived at that


Jul 25, 2013, 3:12 PM [ in reply to Re: Anyone understand how Forbes ranks universities? #153 ]

conclusion?

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Re: Anyone understand how Forbes ranks universities? #153


Jul 25, 2013, 2:00 PM

Yes--accurately, for the most part. Top 50 are dead on! After that, pretty much a coin flip.

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Academics***


Jul 25, 2013, 2:05 PM



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Re: Anyone understand how Forbes ranks universities? #153


Jul 25, 2013, 4:16 PM

This is just another example of why using magazine rankings to run your school is absurd. Naturally, Clemson only touts the USNWR as that is the one whose criteria we use to tun our school. If you want to use them, take all the so called reputable publications, average them, and publish that as the overall ranking. This will prevent manipulating the criteria used by one (former) magazine.

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Re: Anyone understand how Forbes ranks universities? #153


Jul 25, 2013, 6:03 PM

153 is about where we are in the US News rankings when private schools are factored in. Barker's goal of Top 20 was only top 20 PUBLIC schools. Factor in private institutions and we were 250+ before Barker came along.

So in answer to the original question, Forbes ranks things very similarly to US News.

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Doesn't pass the eye test


Jul 25, 2013, 4:21 PM

West Point better than Harvard? I know a lot of West Pointers and that definitely isn't true.

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Re: Anyone understand how Forbes ranks universities? #153


Jul 25, 2013, 6:50 PM

I don't find the Forbes rankings to be very good. Up until the most recent rankings they had Georgia ahead of Georgia Tech. Wow. Looks like they overrate expensive liberal arts schools. I think the US News Rankings make much more sense.

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Re: Anyone understand how Forbes ranks universities? #153


Jul 25, 2013, 7:31 PM

> I don't find the Forbes rankings to be very good. Up
> until the most recent rankings they had Georgia ahead
> of Georgia Tech. Wow. Looks like they overrate
> expensive liberal arts schools. I think the US News
> Rankings make much more sense.

If you are basing your comment about "expensive" on the tuition Forbes has listed, those tuition costs must be wrong. Yes, Georgia looks expensive at $39,000 per year but they've got Clemson listed at $45,000 per year.

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Unlike U.S. News, Forbes lumps national universities in with


Jul 25, 2013, 11:03 PM

small liberal arts colleges. It just doesn't make sense to to that. Two very different approaches to higher education.

Among the national universities that Forbes ranks ahead of Clemson, Virginia Tech jumps out at me as bogus, but they are mostly similar to U.S. News once you segregate out the liberal arts colleges...

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