Re: Also noticeably absent is #### Cheney.

Baptists weren't a part of the state churches that historically represented Protestantism (and you could describe some Christian churches as non-Catholic before the Reformation), but they share a patrimony in the theology, if not the ecclesiology, of the Reformation. Besides, most people just use "Protestant" to mean those Christian churches that aren't Catholic and aren't Orthodox. That may not be entirely accurate of all those churches, but Southern Baptists in particular share quite a bit with other Evangelical Protestants.

I guess the biggest difference between any Baptist church and a "Protestant" church is that Baptist churches are more congregational and don't identify with a nationality. This is why I've heard some people say that nearly all "non-denominational" church are basically Baptists, and indeed, a lot of them were planted by Baptists and have conservative Baptist theology.

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Nov 6, 2018, 3:18 PM

I can tell when someone is Christian sometimes if I meet them. Some women I can tell by looking at their face but that too has to be in person. I think it's about the promotion and acceleration of Christian fellowship and the gift is all inclusive for Christians after a certain measure of spiritual maturity.

I can sometimes recognize the lost but never by process of elimination such that I believe someone is lost because I can't recognize they are saved. I think that is given sometimes especially to know when to testify to someone and seldom to set them apart from others or think less of them.

For those reasons the OP pole is above my paygrade. That's because in order to speculate on who will get into heaven we thereby speculate on who will go to hell or some portion of probability thereof.

Paul and some other apostles did it but they aren't logged onto Tnet. 'For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God.'

Regardless of how one feels about his moral being we're all in the same boat. No amount of dogooding will get you into heaven and no amount of sinning with send you to hell. We're born destined to hell with only one escape hatch, the Blood of Jesus the Son of God.

No need to come at me with moehamid or any other gods. Don't waste the keystrokes. I know what it says and if it's a lie I'll do the sentence of eternity while praising my God from the depths of hell and blessing His precious name through the misery.

'Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him:...'

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Pole:

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I want to hate you for putting that song in my head.

I mean, this is really odd...

Dang, I feel better about my chances after reading that.***

But Bill C. with a better shot than Obama and Hillary???***

Just judging by what he claimed to believe***

^^^Southern Baptist all the way^^^***

Just evangelical and protestant, really***

do you consider Baptist to be protestant?

That's sort of a pointless church history discussion

Pole:

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What did Al Gore do?

adultery right?***

Pomposity.***

He invented the internet

carter and maybe dole

Don't you have to have sinned and be unrepentant?

I guess I should have added if they are unrepentant.***

does Trump even know the definition of repent?***

I think he said he's never asked God for forgiveness

I doubt that's what they'd say

Re: I think he said he's never asked God for forgiveness

The only non-decent, 100% self-serving people on this

Not sure what that has to do with soteriology***

Are you going to make me look up that word?

Doctrine of salvation***

Also noticeably absent is #### Cheney.

Who am I to judge?

If Reagan isn't there,

Re: If Reagan isn't there,

Looks like Dabo there.***

Hollywood lifestyle in early years takes away 50 points.***

All that's above my paygrade.

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