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10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 8, 2019, 9:31 PM
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The SEC plays a pitiful OOC schedule! I am going by bowl games because at least a team has to be .500. They sit at 70% but if you look at bowl tie ins and such(they travel well you have to give them that plus many bowls are in the deep south - warmer). With all those teams getting in naturally if they are decent you should win more wouldn't you think?
This was put out before Clemson dominated Alabama in the NCG. The ACC finished 7-5 in bowl season the SEche - 6-5. All those ranked opponents deserve to be ranked all those times: "probably not" but they will fill a stadium up during bowl time and making money is all some people want out of college football. Too many soft headed easily manipulated people have bought into the hype that isn't being backed up by anyone except Bama!
https://247sports.com/college/mississippi-state/Board/59413/Contents/Bowl-Records-by-Conference-last-10-Yrs-127115885/
Note: The ACC has more wins than the Big 10 & Pac 12. And the same number of wins but more losses than the Big 12. Difference being a few National Titles for the ACC by FSU and of course The Mighty Clemson Tigers!
The narrative and hype and perception is more a media hype thing! You know what conference has currently put the 2nd most players in the NFL? One guess: "it's the ACC"! There are good players in this conference - so stop it if a team steps up every now and then and challenge the defending conference champion. After all over the last few years pretty much only ACC teams and Bama have beaten the Tigers!
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Re: 10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 8, 2019, 9:43 PM
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Very well said and put together. Little known facts that you never hear about.
You always hear it in September about the sec and b1g but look at what happens when all said and done.
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Re: 10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 8, 2019, 10:05 PM
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Thanks Kerigantoo!
As the 80's/ 90's hip hop group once said: "Don't Believe The Hype"!
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Re: 10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 8, 2019, 9:48 PM
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I've seen the crowds in those highlighted bowl videos, and I haven't recieved the first royalty check for my likeness being used .
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Re: 10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 8, 2019, 10:21 PM
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What is the bowl record for each conference against other P5 teams? The ACC last year was 4-5 if you count the 2 wins by Clemson and count ND as a P5 team. That leaves a 2-5 record for the rest of the conference. Those were wins over South Carolina and a WV team playing without their starting QB and leading receiver.
The overall ACC record was 6-5 btw, not 7-5. The other two wins were over Memphis and Temple.
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Re: 10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 8, 2019, 10:33 PM
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So which of the current ranked SEC teams do you feel aren’t deserving of a top 25 ranking?
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Re: 10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 8, 2019, 10:44 PM
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Currently only 6 are ranked 03.
Bama, LSU, Georgia and Florida are undefeated - so of course they should be.
Auburn honestly should have lost to Oregon on a neutral field. If Herbert just simply does not fumble within the 10 yard line they lose that game. Them losing to Florida didn't surprise me a lick.
Then A & M - I would go there but of course - that would hurt the value of Clemson's win.
I linked the S.O.S of those squads schedule so far: did you see that? Not impressive! Believe it or not Alabama was right there with Clemson. Have they destroyed everyone; yep! They also play their starters longer too!
But, the point of the post is actual: Metrics using the bowl games 03! Not the same tired as He double hockey sticks perception of the SEC being so dominant when they aren't "Top To Bottom"!
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Re: 10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 8, 2019, 10:53 PM
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On this 03. Two of the 5 were Georgia Tech and FSU. Yeah, you can say the same the other way with U of sux.
But, your talking top of that conference to bottom dwellers at the time(currently too). Yes, they count too! You are also talking Alabama dismantling FSU( 2 for 1). And again, the very top of that conference 03. Kind of mis-leading!
My point is: yes, of course they good at the top. I am not buying the rest of the league as being tough. Not just not buying it; but backing it up with facts!
This was the question just two years ago!http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/242951828/acc-best-conference-college-football-sec
Yes, Yes it had at the time using SEC-logic!
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Re: 10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 8, 2019, 10:28 PM
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Every SEC bowl game last year was against P5 teams btw. Not counting Bama’s win over Oklahoma, the SEC had 2 wins over top 10 teams, and 3 wins over top 12 teams. One of the SEC losses was to a top 15 ranked team.
The ACC had only one bowl opponent outside of what Clemson faced in the playoffs that had a top 25 ranking, and that was the previously mentioned WV team.
I know I’ll come across as a hater to some, but throwing out this stat without taking the actual bowl opponents into account just makes us look silly.
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Re: 10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 8, 2019, 10:31 PM
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The SEC beats it's collective chest over those wins! Why is it different if the ACC does?
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Re: 10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 8, 2019, 10:39 PM
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Of course winning those games is better than losing them. Let’s be honest, nobody is debating whether or not Clemson is good. The hate comes for the rest of the conference. I just don’t think you can compare wins over Memphis and Temple as being equal to bigger wins.
I should correct myself though as the UCF isn’t a P5 team so they did have one game that wasn’t against a P5 team.
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Re: 10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 9, 2019, 10:56 AM
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So an 70% SEC win percentage is "awesome"
But a 64% ACC win percentage "sucks?
The bull puppies know that's only a 6% difference right? Perhaps not
Mississippi State has been to a bowl 9 out of the last 10 years. Yet the only SEC teams they have a winning record against are TAM (7-5), UK (25-22) and Vandy (13-7). Yet they make a bowl game every year. What does that tell you about their OOC schedule?
Win two games in the SEC and you make a bowl. Give me a break.
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Re: 10 Year Bowl Record Link! Some Of You Will Be Surprised!
Oct 9, 2019, 12:32 PM
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So an 70% SEC win percentage is "awesome"
But a 64% ACC win percentage "sucks?
The bull puppies know that's only a 6% difference right? Perhaps not
Mississippi State has been to a bowl 9 out of the last 10 years. Yet the only SEC teams they have a winning record against are TAM (7-5), UK (25-22) and Vandy (13-7). Yet they make a bowl game every year. What does that tell you about their OOC schedule?
Win two games in the SEC and you make a bowl. Give me a break.
Exactly right! They have the benefit of the doubt right out the gate! "Past history carved out by Nick Saban's teams mostly" has bequeath them a built in "PASS"! The polls help them out by often ranking a bunch of SEC schools early season in the top 25 so if you do lose; you don't drop very far {{{ b/c you lost to a ranked opponent}}}. Outside people looking in and ESPN heads get the spiral eye look from watching ESPN so much and listening to that propaganda over and over and over about how good the teams are - that they get brainwashed by it. What reinforces the wash is when Nicki wins a NC and Georgia and U of Sux fans are chanting SEC, SEC, SEC "AS IF" they helped! Now the brainwashed - spiral eyed ESPN propaganda looped out of their mind individual get sucked in farther and farther to: "The facade"! Smoke and Mirrors!
A lie!
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Correction: 6 SEC, 3 ACC, 1 BIG10 in last 10 years.
Oct 9, 2019, 12:54 PM
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2 teams in SEC to win it, 2 teams in ACC to win it, 1 team in BIG10 to win it.
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Re: Correction: 6 SEC, 3 ACC, 1 BIG10 in last 10 years.
Oct 9, 2019, 1:45 PM
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2 teams in SEC to win it, 2 teams in ACC to win it, 1 team in BIG10 to win it.
Thanks Clembert!
I ask - why such "hyper-evaluation" of the ACC then? Zero - Zero - Pac 12 yet they get the benefit of the doubt? 1 for the Big 10 with a bunch of players from the South on Ohio St. Does the ACC not get some leeway if it doesn't get a bunch of teams ranked every year? Or contending for a National title? Seems to me it should.
Yet, the Big 10 trudges on with basically 1 school worth something in Ohio St. With all due respect to Michigan and Penn State they really haven't been doing much but getting hyped up over beating overrated Big 10 teams. Much like the SEC model. But, w/o the championships to back up and validate their marginal success in the regular season!
Pre-Season polls to me are partially to blame here in my opinion. Over the last couple years a few ACC schools started off hot with either no losses or 1 loss to a good opponent. Yet, were not ranked! Had the perception of the team been different - everyone they played would have been elevated. The game hyped more, etc. I just can't help but think it all comes down to marketing for "he who has the largest audience"! More bang for the advertisers buck. I am amazed Wake is ranked as high as they are. Which I am happy about; hope they remain ranked high.
It's been said many times: certain schools teams out there can win two games in a row "they should win" and the media will proclaim them serious contenders. That's perception people. History rearing it's head in the minds of the voters. If you aren't a non-traditional football school - you had better have beaten one! This is where " yes " the ACC could help itself out! Need more regular season wins against P5 conferences!
Again - FSU losing to Bama - everybody beat FSU last year! So what.
Louisville - I think it was LSU that beat them. Then Kentucky beat them at the end of the season. So what everybody was wearing Louisville out.
Georgia Tech losing to Georgia - really? A lame duck coach playing in a game where Georgia needed to be impressive b/c they had already suffered a loss. Plus, who didn't beat GT? Duke last year for example beat a ranked #19 Army team 34-14 they also beat Big 10 western conference rep and #21 ranked Northwestern at NW 21-7. But, no hype surrounding them and proclamation of how good they were and how serious a title contender. It's all mostly perception. Unplug from ESPN some and you will see it too to the folks still spewing the propaganda.
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