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Re: Prof. said electors are close to blocking Trump win***
Dec 14, 2016, 9:45 AM
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All-In [42125]
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I know if it happens, I shouldn't laugh at...
Dec 14, 2016, 9:50 AM
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You and the other blindly loyal Trumpies.
But it's gonna be hard not to.
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Re: I know if it happens, I shouldn't laugh at...
Dec 14, 2016, 4:14 PM
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Well, the laughing will stop when the civil war starts.
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Oculus Spirit [81024]
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Why are they changing their vote?
Dec 14, 2016, 9:51 AM
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What has changed since the election?
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All-In [42125]
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Good question, and not explained.
Dec 14, 2016, 9:54 AM
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It would all be speculation at this point, and that's assuming it's true.
But if we are going to speculate, maybe the thus far train wreck transition process we've seen since the election? Maybe the appointments?
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Orange Blooded [2429]
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Re: Good question, and not explained.
Dec 14, 2016, 9:58 AM
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IMO the only train wreck I've seen has been the last eight years of donkey rule.
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The transition has not been a train wreck IMO...
Dec 14, 2016, 10:41 AM
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just because one might not like who Trump is going to appoint, doesn't make the transition a "train-wreck".
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Orange Blooded [3516]
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Re: Why are they changing their vote?
Dec 14, 2016, 10:33 AM
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One of the things that might change my vote would be that Trump hasn't had a news conference since becoming PE. This lack of transparency is inexcusable IMO...and no, tweets don't count. The news conference he had scheduled for this week, in which he was going to explain how he would divest himself from his businesses, was postponed. To me, this is a huge issue and one that could follow Trump throughout his time in office if he doesn't handle it correctly. He could have put this issue to bed, but now the electors will cast their votes not knowing whether these issues will be handled in a satisfactory manner. Just a few things...
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Oculus Spirit [81024]
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Did Obama?***
Dec 14, 2016, 10:40 AM
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Yes - three days after the election in '08.***
Dec 14, 2016, 12:21 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81024]
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So that narrowed down who he was going to pick
Dec 14, 2016, 1:00 PM
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and what he was going to do.
I don't remember hearing "...and I'm going to ram a flawed and damaged healthcare finance bill down your throat regardless if you like it or not, during the middle of one of our nations worst economic crisis."
THAT would have been helpful.
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Right. Wait, so what were we talking about?***
Dec 14, 2016, 3:12 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81024]
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"One of the things that might change my vote would be that
Dec 14, 2016, 3:41 PM
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Trump hasn't had a news conference since becoming PE"
What did Obama having a news conf 3 days after the election really do for us?
It didn't tell me he was driving insurance up.
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CU Medallion [56041]
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So when you asked "Did Obama?" the answer didn't
Dec 14, 2016, 8:31 PM
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really matter.
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I really enjoyed this subthread.***
Dec 14, 2016, 8:35 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81024]
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Sure it did.
Dec 15, 2016, 10:21 AM
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Obama having a press conference 3 days after being elected was about as useful as if Trump were to have one.
What would anyone get from it that would be useful?
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Orange Blooded [2429]
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Re: Prof. said electors are close to blocking Trump win
Dec 14, 2016, 9:57 AM
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If they succeed it will just go to the house of reps and guess who they will elect---TRUMP. So it's all a big waste of time and money just like the recount.
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Would they?
Dec 14, 2016, 9:58 AM
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Given the opportunity to choose Trump or switch to an establishment Republican, you think the House would choose Trump? Particularly under Ryan's leadership?
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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They are not stupid.***
Dec 14, 2016, 10:00 AM
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Maybe. Maybe not.
Dec 14, 2016, 10:02 AM
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But they definitely are crooked and hungry to maintain power, which is something Trump threatens for the establishment. Given the chance, I think they would flock to a traditional GOP choice.
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Heisman Winner [119681]
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You are being truly pathetic, Cata
Dec 14, 2016, 10:17 AM
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give it a rest...
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All-In [42125]
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Ow. Ow. Ow. Your words hurt me.
Dec 14, 2016, 10:27 AM
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Ow. Such savagery as you stare down the possibility that your Lord and Savior might not actually get voted into office.
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Heisman Winner [119681]
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If you really think this will happen OR
Dec 14, 2016, 10:53 AM
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if you Want it to happen, you are REALLY REALLY REALLY PATHETIC!
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Heisman Winner [137849]
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If somebody offered me the choice of having Trump as
Dec 14, 2016, 11:03 AM
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POTUS, or ANY other Republican, and I chose option B, I don't think that makes me pathetic. Whole lotta conservatives agree with that viewpoint.
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Do you not consider these events(if they happened)
Dec 14, 2016, 11:16 AM
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as bad for our nation?
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Heisman Winner [137849]
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Sure. I was speaking more in hindsight.
Dec 14, 2016, 11:29 AM
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But if this particular sequence could be a reality going forward, I'd still go down that path, as the potential damage of a Trump presidency outweighs the potential damage to the perception of our government waffling on leaders. That's just my opinion, of course.
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Oculus Spirit [81024]
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I've read this twice in here in the last 5 minutes.
Dec 14, 2016, 1:22 PM
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What "potential damage" are we talking about?
Stuff Like doubling our national debt? Approving useless and ill planned "stimulus" money? Illegally put thousands of guns into the hands of drug dealers and criminals? Giving millions in tax dollars to campaign contributors and lobbyists, under the ruse that they money is for “green” energy? Train wreck our healthcare system for everyone, in order to insure <10% of the population? Target his political enemies with the IRS? Racially divide our country worse than it has been since the civil rights act?
Do you mean stuff like that? Yeah..I wouldn't want a president to do that, either.
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Once again, people dismissing concerns over Trump...
Dec 14, 2016, 5:17 PM
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By tying in the faults of Obama or Hillary when they play zero factor in what Trump may do. Let's focus on him because he's the only one that matters. Have we seen a very bad preview of what's to come? Yes.
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Oculus Spirit [81024]
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Whats the bad review?
Dec 15, 2016, 10:09 AM
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Many of you are trying to blame him for stuff he hasn't even done.
Hell, you wanted to run him up on treason charges yesterday.
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I think you should be as well.
Dec 14, 2016, 1:02 PM
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If it does, absolutely noone gets the leader they wanted.
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Except for the "None of the Above" crowd.***
Dec 15, 2016, 9:22 AM
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Crazy times.***
Dec 14, 2016, 10:13 AM
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fake news?***
Dec 14, 2016, 10:15 AM
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It's a conservative publication, so maybe.***
Dec 14, 2016, 10:27 AM
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Oculus Spirit [97697]
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The ease at which liberals have at measures like this
Dec 14, 2016, 10:28 AM
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is exactly why Trump won. I can not think of a liberal (anyone really) who could have run and won who I would support using these tactics. I'm glad Hillary was so supportive with accepting the results.
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You do realize...
Dec 14, 2016, 10:29 AM
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That if this happens, a Republican still wins, right?
It will just be a sane Republican who will actually know what he/she is doing.
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Re: You do realize...
Dec 14, 2016, 10:35 AM
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Well...I'm not sure I like the idea of a Pence presidency either...
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Oculus Spirit [97697]
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I do realize a conservative will not.
Dec 14, 2016, 10:39 AM
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You think the House would put up Ted Cruz. He did come in second. Nope. They'll probably want to put up Jeb and the best a conservative could hope for would be Rubio. And we will be one step further down the road to the banana republic we're becoming. But this does show how full of #### Hillary was and how liberals operate. Everything that gave us Trump is embodied in these tactics.
Personally, if I were an elector and someone approached me to blackmail me, or whatever, I'd be sure to keep a good record of it. I'm sure many are.
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Trump is not a conservative. Far from it.***
Dec 14, 2016, 10:39 AM
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Oculus Spirit [97697]
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Don't care. He could be Nancy Pelosi.
Dec 14, 2016, 10:48 AM
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He wasn't my pick either. But I'll be ###### if I'd take anyone else winning based on electors being blackmailed. This type of stuff is why you get a Trump elected. Now shut up and live with it. Because if you don't, in 4 years you'll get something far worse than Trump. Just like Trump's nominations for his cabinet now only need 51 votes in the Senate. You reap what you sow. You made your bed, now lay down in it.
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I'm claimaing that most of what he is doing is
Dec 14, 2016, 10:49 AM
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So far. I don't really care what or who he is, when it comes to blackmailing electors that's a line I would not cross, party or ideology be ######.
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Well first, he hasn't "done" anything yet...
Dec 14, 2016, 1:48 PM
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if you're referring to his announced nominees, i would agree with you...at least on certain ones.
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Oculus Spirit [97697]
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Yeah, that's what he's done.
Dec 15, 2016, 8:41 AM
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Not much, but whatever. I guarantee you a person whose run a $500 billion company will not have his own secret private email server located in a bathroom somewhere to do his official communications. NOPE.
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CU Medallion [56041]
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Sounds like a symbolic gesture.
Dec 14, 2016, 12:32 PM
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Some people probably want to go on record now so they can be perceived as having been on the right side of history in the future.
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Oculus Spirit [81024]
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Since you seem to know what he future will be..
Dec 14, 2016, 1:03 PM
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Could you tell me what this weeks winning powerball numbers will be?
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CU Medallion [56041]
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I didn't predict anything.***
Dec 14, 2016, 5:07 PM
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Did Obama?***
Dec 14, 2016, 8:44 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81024]
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You predicted that "some people", presumably those that
Dec 15, 2016, 10:19 AM
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vote Trump our of his perspective office, would be on the right side of history.
Since you presuming that NOT having trump as the President would be the right side of history, you are certainly predicting that.
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CU Medallion [50635]
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seen this referenced in several stories that all end with
Dec 14, 2016, 2:31 PM
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only i has indicted he will do it
even in this story---Politico, citing GOP sources, reported that a Republican whip operation found only one elector, Chris Suprun of Texas, would vote against Trump.
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Probably more like wishful thinking on his part****
Dec 14, 2016, 4:30 PM
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I can't wait
Dec 15, 2016, 8:09 AM
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To mock this post and thread.
It's like watching a bunch of 3 year olds throwing tantrums.
I thought we would leave that to the snowflakes in college.....
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