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Please Stop Making Light of FSU

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:37 PM
 

FSU’s medical staff had a duty to protect their student athletes. THEY would be the ones that would have to look the parents in the face if this went sideways. They understood that lots of money had been spent and Clemson was assuring them that all the protocols had followed, but they had a solemn duty to do what they thought right. They made a tough call. This is a game. It can be played later. The worst case for playing can’t be undone.

So please, let’s stop taking shots at FSU.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:39 PM
 

Whatever, Nancy....

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:39 PM
 

That’s ########. Dabo told them to retest today play tomorrow or monday

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:39 PM
 

ONE PLAYER!
Quick retest at least before cancelling game.

Smh

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lol. there were options on the table to do both.***

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Re: lol. there were options on the table to do both.***

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:42 PM
 

^^^ding ding ding^^^

That’s the ENTIRE point of the protocols - it’s how we have CFB happening safely every week.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:40 PM
 

EXACTLY! If Clemson says they are following the protocol, who is the FSU medical person to say otherwise? Is the protocol not clear? Couldn't the ACC officials verify the protocol? Did FSU think Clemson was not telling the truth? Sadly, i comes across as not wanting to play the game. Did FSU have too many players opting out this week? Wondering who is going to get to the bottom of this?

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Re: lol. there were options on the table to do both.***

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 4:57 PM
 

The OP is right. How can the FSU medical staff look their players families in the eyes and have to let them know their sons ####### are too hurt to play Clemson! It’s for the best they postpone!

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:50 PM
 

POTD..

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Re: Please Stop Making Light of FSU

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:41 PM
 

ONCE AGAIN There have been ZERO Covid hospitalizations or deaths for college football players. This virus does not seriously harm healthy young people! It is all a bunch of politically motivated BS to lead us into a socialist one world government! Thanks a lot Biden

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:46 PM
 

Tell that to the mother of the five year old who recently died in my area.

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OMG ... are you serious? One solitary case?

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:53 PM
 

I’m 71 years old and I refuse to live in a bubble.

Fear.

This whole thing is totally out of control.

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Stop people die all the time for all reasons

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:56 PM
 

I’m sure a bunch of kids die today in car accidents

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:04 PM
 

I mean our own XT had trouble breathing for months after getting it hurting his conditioning. What if that causes long term problems? Deaths aren’t the only thing to worry about.

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Strep throat .... not COVID ... caused his problem.


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:23 PM
 

A severe case of strep will kick your butt!!

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Strep throat gave my Mom Bright’s disease which


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:31 PM
 

eviscerated her kidneys.

This whole thing is so stupid.

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Re: Strep throat .... not COVID ... caused his problem.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 3:56 PM
 


A severe case of strep will kick your butt!!


Tell me about it...

Had strep many times as a kid...

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 6:26 PM
 

He also had strep. Bad combo.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 6:21 PM
 

^^^THIS^^^
COVID is not even as deadly as the flu. Period. It’s all politics.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:41 PM
 

Absolutely cowardly. Deaths or even complications of those under 50 is .002. Call it for what it is. FSU has quit on Norvell already and should all opt out.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:41 PM
 

Absolutely cowardly. Deaths or even complications of those under 50 is .002. Call it for what it is. FSU has quit on Norvell already and should all opt out.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:42 PM
 

Just so I understand, it’s okay for their coach to test positive and still play a game but they are protecting their players when a player on the other team tests positive and they choose not to play? So, they would not have had to face the parents in the first scenario?

Okay, makes perfect sense. ??

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:17 PM
 

But I'm sure Norvell stayed in the Bowden Tower before and after his positive test but did he wait 10 days before being on the sideline for the game though?

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Clemson followed all of the ACC protocols. Having a single

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:45 PM
 

positive reading is not cause to cancel/postpone the game. This trip cost Clemson $300,000. I think there will be some ramifications back on FSU as a result of the timing of their decision around 9:00 a.m. this morning.

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No, there won’t.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:52 PM
 

It’s convenient, stinks, and darn sure isn’t popular but this was a decision that can be defended and won’t be called into question. Their medical staff made a decision at the time the last information was presented, 9AM. Again, it isn’t popular and it’s very easy to poke holes in, but their medical staff made the decision and good luck finding someone in a position of power that’s willing to call that into question.

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Incorrect. FSU knew late Friday afternoon. There were

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 2:04 PM
 

discussions back and forth until early this morning. It wasn't until then did FSU said no. The decision was unprecedented! No team has been sent home on game day.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:55 PM
 

From a business standpoint I would not spend another $300 K to go back down there. In these types of cases you just have to cancel the game.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:45 PM
 

"IF" is a big word.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:47 PM
 

No. Unless they do the right thing and forfeit.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:49 PM
 

Explain to me in simple language how a forfeit would benefit Clemson. Speakly slowly because I am an older fan.

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Re: Please Stop Making Light of FSU

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:01 PM
 

If you’re an old man and a sports fan how can you not understand the implication of a forfeit? A forfeit puts a W In the win column. When the other team forfeits you automatically get the win. That matters in conference standings.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 2:12 PM
 

Ok. If FSU did the right thing and forfeits, Clemson gets the W and doesn’t have to travel back to Tally.

Did I type that slow enough for you?

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Re: Please Stop Making Light of FSU

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:47 PM
 

There has to be a better system where this doesnt happen again.

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Yes. You fine the crap out of FSU for not adhering to the

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:47 PM
 

protocols they agreed to before the season began.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 2:07 PM
 

Apparently, they or any team have the right to cancel under these circumstances. We know the real reason, I think, but from what I read there's always that out.

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Protect their student athletes from what? A beat down?***

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:48 PM
 

Shut up you ignorant corona bro!

I’m so tired of this BS about corona and Covid this is so freaking overhyped!

Most people testing positive don’t even have symptoms which means they don’t have Covid because a positive test does not mean you’re actually sick it just means you have antigens in your blood which means you were exposed to someone that has Covid.

One if the main reason ms we’re having so many positive tests now is because we’re doing1.5 million tests/day which is exponentially more than we were doing in the past.

There has not been a single verified case where someone has gotten Covid by playing a game against someone else and at this point most players have already been exposed to the virus probably several times.

the death rate is steadily going down and the number of hospitalizations relative to positive Tests is also going down and we are far better at treating this now than we were six months ago.

Very very very few kids college-age and below have been hospitalized with Covid much less died from it. I mean like a super tiny number.

We also know the people dying from Covid are being greatly over exaggerated. There is a video of the head of the state of Illinois health system, their version of what we call DHEC in South Carolina, and she confirmed what many of us have known for a long time which is someone dying with Covid even when Covid has nothing to do with them dying is still labeled a Covid death. Her quote was, even if you are in hospice and dying of cancer and you only have weeks to live and you get Covid and then you die from the cancer they count that as a Covid death! When Covid has absolutely nothing to do with that person dying!

I’m not saying that people should not take this serious I’m not saying that people that have certain serious health conditions don’t need to be careful, but the truth is the majority of the hype around Covid is because this is an election year and because of Donald Trump and anyone that doesn’t believe that he’s lying to themselves! This is about power and control by people that love power and control! And if you don’t understand that you’re part of the problem!


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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:53 PM
 

Nope. You're just lying to yourself.

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Re: Please Stop Making Light of FSU

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:47 PM
 

Point out one thing I wrote that’s factually incorrect. You can’t. Because everything I posted is 100% factually correct. People like you cancel people like me because I speak truth to power and all you have is your little girl feelings and your liberal political beliefs. I thought people like you believe in facts and science? The CDC and Dr. Fauci and basically every expert is saying schools should be open and kids should be going to school. Yet Democrats all over America are shutting down schools. This is not about truth and never has been. It’s about power. And if you don’t understand that it’s because you’re part of the problem. Prove me wrong!

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 2:11 PM
 

Lol. Nothing can prove you wrong.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:01 PM
 

I agree 100%. But please edit your post. There are several mistakes making it difficult to read and comprehend.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:50 PM
 

Are you serious? This is textbook manipulation.

They know they get stomped today. That’s all there is to it.

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Please stop making excuses for FSU***

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I smell fear.***

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Re: Please Stop Making Light of FSU


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:53 PM
 

Lighten up, Francis !

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Why does the ACC have protocols that call for the game to

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:55 PM
 

still be played if Clemson followed them? Clemson followed the protocols that should have allowed for the game to be played. The Clemson medical staff has the same obligation and the two sides disagreed on playing the game. Sounds like FSU just didn't want to play the game. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.........

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Re: Please Stop Making Light of FSU


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:55 PM
 

You’re soft. Probably an FSU guy at heart. It shows.

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Please... FSU needs to opt out


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:56 PM
 

They weren't even practicing social distancing in the stadium until the 3rd qtr of the 1st game.
No one shows up to watch the S#$& shows.

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Re: Please... FSU needs to opt out

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:51 PM
 

It reminds me of the CNN reporters that constantly get caught Socially distancing and wearing a mask when they think they’re on camera and then taking off their mask and standing within inches of each other talking in groups when they think the cameras are off. You just can’t make this stuff up yet sadly people at Clemson degrees by the lies from the left and the media. I’m embarrassed of people graduated from Clemson aren’t smart enough to see the truth when it’s being shoved up their rear ends with a red hot poker. But then those people know the truth they’re just socialist and communist and totalitarian’s that think America is a bad racist country rather than the greatest country that has ever existed and that capitalism and democracy have done more for people around the world than all other systems combined. These people have white guilt and are led by there a little girl emotions rather than the facts and understanding of history.

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Preciousness***


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Re: Please Stop Making Light of FSU

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 12:58 PM
 

FSU found an out and took it, simple as that.

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LOL So many hospitalized football players

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:00 PM
 

some were sick for days and would not have gotten sick if they stay home hiding under their bed

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Re: LOL So many hospitalized football players

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:54 PM
 

Is my meter broken?

You could pretty much count on your fingers the number of athletes under the age of 25 that I’ve been hospitalized with Covid. Actually has there been any college player that has been hospitalized? I know there has not been a death. And if any of them were hospitalized what other medical conditions did they have that they didn’t know about or that we haven’t been told about. Think about how many college kids every year get an injury and then because of that injury and all the medical attention they get find out they have some type of serious disease or some type of serious heart condition or spinal condition. Who is the kid to drop dead on the basketball court? There have been more kids drop dead on the basketball court in college basketball than will die from coronavirus.

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Re: LOL So many hospitalized football players


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 2:15 PM
 

And you think that's a valid argument? Just simple man talk.

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LOL are you also afraid of the dark? Please be rational.


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:14 PM
 

“If this went sideways?” WTEff are you talking about?

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Re: LOL are you also afraid of the dark? Please be rational.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:44 PM
 

I knew my post would be torched and that is fine. I will probably get ripped for this, too. Let’s be entirely clear, though. I did not say I agreed with the choice the medical staff made. I certainly will concede that I am taking the cancellation at face value and assuming it was truly made by the medical staff. I find intervention by the staff or administration implausible since they are going to be embarrassed now or later. That said, it is perfectly fair to rip me for my naïveté if it turns out that was not the case. I do, however, defend the medical professional(s) who made that call. They stood by their beliefs and made a clearly unpopular (and politically charged) call. That takes courage.

An earlier poster stated quite correctly that the ACC should be held accountable for the way this played out. They mandated the test the day before the match, but they did not require the results to be in prior to agreement on play and team travel. That undoubtedly needs to be fixed.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:58 PM
 

The conference should’ve immediately stepped in and said FSU play the game or you forfeit. Clemson followed all of the protocols that were established by the ACC before the season started and every team has to follow. Unless Clemson broke protocol, which they did not, then FSU should’ve been forced to play the game. If they decided not to play the game it is not rescheduled but they take a big fat W and we Move on! Why is it hard for you to understand that? And again Covid is not dangerous to healthy people especially not young healthy athletes. This is all BS! And I am factually 100% correct and I dare you to prove me wrong. I don’t wanna hear your feelings I stick to these little things called facts!

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 2:19 PM
 

I don't you know what a fact is. And apparently the protocol allows for FSU to have the final say regardless. Stinks, but it's within they're rights. Or do not believe in others rights? Unless those rights are something you agree with? Just a game, man.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 3:08 PM
 

I don’t understand. I did not disagree in any way with anything you said. The ACC could have averted this as you said. They didn’t and here we are.

What I am trying to say is the medical staff at FSU are presumably highly trained, highly paid professionals who were presented with a dilemma and they made a choice - a tough, unpopular choice. You (and I, for the record) don’t agree with that choice. That does not mean we cannot appreciate THAT they made their choice. I pay people that know more than I do to make decisions like this one. If I don’t respect their difference of opinion, why hire them in the first place.

The choice here is likely political as much as medical and those who made the decision should be held accountable for their decision. However, I believe this choice was a serious one. Mocking, sarcasm, calling names weakens the case for real accountability. There are very real questions these medical professionals should have to answer.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:16 PM
 

The ACC said Clemson had followed ALL of the agreed upon protocols. If FSU had problems with the protocols at the beginning of the season they should have voiced their concern then. Either got them changed or not agreed to move forward with the season. This is a classic bait and switch.

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NO!!!***


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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:31 PM
 

I blame the acc. I could understand if the conference would have said, "ok someone tested positive, you can't play". But they essentially stated that we followed protocols and okayed the teams to play. Why have protocols if you're going to allow them to be deemed meaningless? Colleges are already cancelling athletic programs because of the financial impact. Now you're telling visiting teams who've already incurred travel expenses they have to go home. Not a good look for the acc.

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In a kind & loving way .....


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:34 PM
 

and I’ll assume you are in the Clemson Family.


But you are an idiot.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:38 PM
 

Oh blow it out of your @$$....Clemson is out 300 stacks because of this bull sh*t sensationalized common fckn cold like virus. It’s because of you sheeple it’s gotten to what it is and it’s impacts.

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You would have been better off selling


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:49 PM
 

Coot hats here than float this half baked non sense. FSU plain quit. Period

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 1:51 PM
 

Except the FSU reporter was on WCCP yesterday and basically said That FSU was looking for an excuse then not to play the game. I hope we put 100 on them when we play

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You’re right, I’m sure they canceled every game...


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 2:02 PM
 

When the opponent had one positive test. OP you are so sensitive and I bet your basement looks amazing. I wish everyone had the sense you do. The world would be a lot safer with a bunch of people who call off life for the smallest reason. I bet it’s hard to type on your phone with the gloves you always wear on...wouldn’t want to take any chances at contaminating yourself! I know, I know there is very little chance for that, but can’t be too careful.

Seriously... I hope the equivalent of the chicken curse has just been dropped on FSU.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 2:07 PM
 

Clemson followed ACC guidelines which all conference members should use that as the benchmark for playing games. If not, why even have the ACC issue guidelines. Those were the rules setup by the ACC and its conference members.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 2:08 PM
 

FSU made the decision for feelings not health. They could’ve done it prior. They could done rapid testing and delayed.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 2:14 PM
 

Shut up Karen. We followed the approved protocol. FSU decided not to play. They had that right. Doesn’t make it right.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 2:14 PM
 

Shut up Karen. We followed the approved protocol. FSU decided not to play. They had that right. Doesn’t make it right.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 3:12 PM
 

The ACC announced the news on Saturday morning, a mere three hours before the game was scheduled to kick off at noon ET. The ACC said the status of the game changed early Saturday after a conference call “at which time both teams’ medical personnel were unable to mutually agree on moving forward with the game.”
ACC protocols require teams to be tested for the coronavirus the day before the game, so both Florida State and Clemson were tested Friday. Once the test results are received, both schools get on a call with the ACC to finalize whether or not they intend to proceed with the game.
Yahoo Sports’ Pete Thamel is reporting that a Friday test came back positive for one Clemson player who traveled to Tallahassee with the team. Florida State officials were not comfortable playing after learning about Clemson’s positive test.

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Why did the ACC approve that the game could be played?


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 4:03 PM
 

They would not have approved if they thought it was unsafe. Plus, Clemson offered to stay an extra day or two for more testing to see if it was a false positive. Still a no-go for FSU.

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Re: Please Stop Making Light of FSU


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 4:04 PM
 

yeah - with the protocols all being followed (listening to the "experts" , except when it's not convenient (right, teacher's unions?), the remote chance that a healthy 18-22 yr old would contract this deadly, ebola-like plague was just too big of a risk.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 4:05 PM
 

You are as pathetic as FSU

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 4:05 PM
 

What are you talking about. The protocols were followed to play the game.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 4:05 PM
 

What are you talking about. The protocols were followed to play the game.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 4:13 PM
 

They postponed for 1 positive. Pathetic.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 6:12 PM
 

Here’s what I don’t understand:

Every team (85 players) that has played a game in the ACC this year has tested every player on every Friday. Are you telling me this is the first time any of those players tested positive on a Friday?

BS!

This is unprecedented and there is only one explanation. We all know it.

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They played Miami AFTER their own coached tested


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 4:23 PM
 

positive. Today's little cancellation was about not getting their tail kicked. At the rate Norvell's players are quitting on him, this game won't be made up in 4 weeks .


FSU's problems run far deeper than a virus. They've once again hired a coach in over his head at a P5 school

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 4:43 PM
 

Maybe we should make light of you instead.....

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FSU Is


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 5:38 PM
 

Gutless and classless

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Re-test


Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 6:00 PM
 

all players, affirm no infections, play Monday. FSU blew it, made a bad emotional decision. Can't let the virus rule life like this. Bad for football, bad for business, bad for everyone.

you're way off.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 6:02 PM
 

80 replies to this post, which equals the number of points we would have hung on them today. ;)

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 6:06 PM
 

I would not put FSU and integrity in the same paragraph without the words "lack of" immediately proceeding integrity.
The Jack wagons were just scared to play and looking for an excuse.

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 7:12 PM
 

I would say that torn ACLs and broken necks are more serious than the slight possibility of catching COVID. How in the world can the medical staff face a parent when someone gets injured?

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Posted: Nov 21, 2020, 7:19 PM
 

BS. Clemson has a "medical staff" too. This had NOTHING to do with medicine.

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