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Out of 331,000,000 Americans..136,000 dear Souls have died of COVID19..

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 5:26 PM
 

and “other” causes.

Every Soul is precious but medical authorities have lumped regular flu, heart-attacks, strokes, etc into the Covid figures since they don’t really know and/or being told to..and hospitals are being paid more if it’s reported as a Covid death.

Saying..I think this virus is pretty dang bad but not nearly as deadly as could be (and may be) and the more that we are exposed so to get some immune effect going, the better..at least for the young.

Know that we have between 25,000 to 50,000 deaths in normal years from the regular Flu..and those are now totaled in the 136,000 COVID19 deaths, I believe.

Maybe these figures will be redone in the future & divided into what really occurred.

Not saying wearing a mask isn’t urgent as well as sterilization of hands & distancing (which I do) but this Virus could be much more deadly, but it’s not at this time. In fact, it’s been slowing down “immensely” for last month, and thank goodness.

Lastly, having lots of New Cases is good in a crazy way since it means exposure (something that’s needed to build needed resistance) but remember lots of new cases doesn’t mean lots of new deaths.

Stay Safe & G0 TiGERS!

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 5:31 PM
 

Yep it’s up to us to be positive and smart. Your right death rate has nose dived, we will soon be back to more normalcy.

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Re: Out of 331,000,000 Americans..136,000 dear Souls have died of COVID19..

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 5:41 PM
 

So what you are nicely saying is, they are not being on
the up and up with us. Another way to say it, they are
just not sure but they will choose the COVID over a
heart attack and a stroke.

Agreed its bad, but today we had 1700+ cases but we don't
know how many are asymptomatic or how many require being
in the hospital.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 5:44 PM
 

Why do you say "you believe". It is either included or not. It is easy to research. Why provide fake news? Last time I went to the South Carolina web site the numbers are definitely kept separate. Why minimize things. Regardless, even your own false(?) numbers show Covid considerably worse than the flu in a smaller time period.


It's not included

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 7:36 PM
 

CDC estimates 24k-62k flu deaths for 2019-20. COVID is separate.


Uh, excuse me, but if a person has underlying diseases, BUT


Posted: Jul 10, 2020 8:00 PM
 

tests positive with Covid - 19, their death is counted by the CDC, et. al., as a Covid death.

No need to bust LBB's butt over it. Many folks have been astonished with this way of counting the deaths.

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Posted: Jul 11, 2020 12:46 PM
 



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The most amazing thing is the fake news conspiracy

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 10:50 PM
 

Shut down the most of the developed world. I mean they had Russia, Canada, England, Italy, France, Spain, Australia, India, Korea, Japan, Ecuador, Uruguay, Iran, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel, China, all believing this crap. Wearing masks. Shutting things down. I probably missed 60 other countries, but we're the smart ones. We got this. It's all fake news.

Bill Gates orchestrated the whole thing with the help of the chicoms and the WHO.

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Posted: Jul 11, 2020 2:10 PM
 

..either. Makes you wonder.

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CDC website says the COVID numbers also include


Posted: Jul 11, 2020 1:45 PM
 

Pneumonia and Influenza. So unless South Carolina is coming up with their own numbers independent of the CDC research then you may have a point. I’m really doubting they’re not reporting CDC provided figures.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 5:45 PM
 

The death rate has started to inch up and flu deaths are Not included. Most experts think the worst is ahead.


I fact checked this and this is a real story.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 5:59 PM
 
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Wear the mask and be smart.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 5:58 PM
 

The state of Washington (and I'm sure there are others) was caught counting people who had died of gunshot wounds as covid deaths since they tested positive when they got to the hospital. If that's happening you can bet the farm that people dying of flu and a whole host of other maladies are being included in these death totals. Its much more lucrative for the hospital to have someone die of covid than influenza so dying "with" covid as opposed to "from" covid gets very vague on many of these death certificates.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 6:31 PM
 

Please check out my above post..since i didn’t say or mean to say that i believe they are combining all deaths into Covid.

What I did say or mean was: I believe the total figures will be separated in the future to show some of the total deaths were from other causes.

Oh, thx for participating in the discussion.

Also, why do you use the rueful word Fake?

The death rate I showed was approximately correct as was the number of Americans living today and it has been reported that COVID19 deaths “have included” deaths from other causes due to the total confusion.

I realize that NYC has reclassified some deaths as have other cities & states..

but the gist of the matter is the real total of Covid deaths “Does” include other causes at this time but that will be settled later, ~> I believe.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 6:33 PM
 

Would be nice if we had the deaths from underlying conditions! Knowing that if you are healthy that you 0.001 percent of dying!.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 6:54 PM
 

Well would this help?

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For months now

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 7:16 PM
 

I thought this pandemic was for real. I should have realized it was just how you interpret the statistics. One thing is for sure. The American medical system is fake news. Why look for a cure. It’s all fake news. Some of you need to wake up and take a close look at reality!


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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 7:44 PM
 

Now I understand what the orange haired man meant when he said in 2016 he was pursuing people to support him who do not think.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 8:18 PM
 

I'll put this in terms a football fan can understand.

Right now Florida has enough active cases to almost fill up the stadiums for UF, FSU and UM (but when is the hard rock ever full)

If you use the current death per cases ratio,1.16%, 4,000 will die before the rest are cleared

In order to reach herd immunity we need about 60% recovered. If you believe that the actual cases are 10 times higher than confirmed cases, we are at 10%. So 5 x 130k is another 650,000 dead

This is not the flu so wear a #### mask.


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Posted: Jul 11, 2020 10:00 AM
 

Amount of actual cases are way off, no where near the positive and death cases as perceived. Numbers are skewered!


I remember when your daily death updates were 10, 20, 50..


Posted: Jul 10, 2020 8:38 PM
 



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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 8:50 PM
 

So the other 400,000+ deaths worldwide, same reasons?

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This must be why 70,000+ plus have died in Brazil too...


Posted: Jul 11, 2020 1:53 PM
 

and nothing to do with their crazy leader calling it the simple flu and doing nothing. The mental gymnastics going on here are shocking even for TNet.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 9:17 PM
 

Per news media today approximately 10% of South Carolina's population have been tested for the virus.

Approximately 10 % of those tested are positive for the Wuhan virus.

SC's population is about 5.2 million. Data over past the four month period indicates just over 1% of the population is testing positive for the Wuhan virus.

Yes, 1 out of approximately 100 so far test positive. Stay tuned.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 9:56 PM
 

Bad news. We’re not immortal. Look up annual deaths from heart disease, cancer, and car crashes. Add em up and compare to the questionable death counts attributed to this virus. If you are 70-90 and catch the flu, a coronavirus cold, or Covid19, your odds of complications go up. Bet 90% of you that are watching CNN and petrified of this virus rode in a car today, ate unhealthy, and didn’t exercise. And now you want to take away football, education for our kids, and crash the economy.

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Posted: Jul 11, 2020 9:47 AM
 

If the US is over reporting the number of Covid 19 deaths and several countries are supposedly underreporting, maybe we can use the worldwide numbers as more representative of what is actually happening.


... and how many died ‘with’ Covid rather than ‘of’ Covid ?


Posted: Jul 11, 2020 10:26 AM
 

This is the somewhat hidden issue that keeps the water murky.

Perhaps things will become clearer in November.


I see these posts often and am confused by them

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Posted: Jul 11, 2020 12:38 PM
 

If someone has congestive heart failure and COPD, they become ill with the annual influenza virus, and then die, the death is considered to be from influenza.
Pt could have had a poor functioning heart at baseline and the influenza stopped them to the point of death, and the death would considered from influenza.
COVID is no different and nor should it be.

There is not a conspiracy. Theres a virus overwhelming hospitals with pts and making people sick. There is a virus that puts my life at risk daily. Its real.

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Posted: Jul 11, 2020 2:08 PM
 

Feel like the presence is strong here...

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Posted: Jul 11, 2020 10:41 PM
 

That’s 331,000,000 documented Americans. When you factor in the 30-50 millions of undocumented people in America the numbers and percentages go down just a bit more.

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