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Posted: May 5, 2019 5:30 PM
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repost
Everyone should read and reread this. The tide might just have turned, Also, those of you still not banned,post the link on evry Chicken , Bucknut and Dawg site you can lol


http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/26664202/usada-ends-ostarine-suspension-ufc-strawweight-ribas



Re: Ostarine

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Posted: May 5, 2019 5:34 PM
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While I like the sound of that I think the NCAA approving that is a different beast. I’ll keep my ???? and hope they apply the same tests.

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Posted: May 6, 2019 10:38 AM
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While I like the sound of that I think the NCAA approving that is a different beast. I’ll keep my ???? and hope they apply the same tests.


Agreed.

While this is good news going forward, i doubt that it really changes our guys' cases. I'm not an expert, but i see these distinctions:

1) She still had to prove her innocence through 4 passed blood tests, and while it's great that her name is cleared, she still served 23 months of a 24-month suspension. That would be like our guys getting cleared to play before the ACC Championship game.

2) Even then, the NCAA would have to change the terms of its penalty. Right now, Giella and Galloway have been penalized not in months, but in terms of losing next year's entire season of eligibility. ZG has to evaluate whether or not to enroll in Grad school based on the slim possibility that he could be totally cleared in time to play, because simply having his suspension reduced won't do him any good.

3) NCAA guidelines are not allowed to take into consideration the amount of a banned substance that is detected. It is an absolute ruling. If a banned substance is present at all, the athlete is DQed from participation. We would say that there are so many common sense variables in this case, but the NCAA rules do not allow for interpretation of the data. A 'trace' might imply tainting rather than ingestion, but that is an interpretation and isn't allowed.

4) UFC has a working partnership with USADA, so any USADA rulings are implemented immediately. I doubt that the NCAA has a similar partnership but i do not know. If not, the decisions, rulings and advice of the USADA would certainly be relevant to future decisions by the NCAA, but not necessarily to old ones.

I hope I'm wrong. Living here in Augusta, where Zach went to school, i am simply hoping that Zach's (and Braden's, of course) name, and Dabo's program, get cleared.

Restored eligibility would be like winning the lottery.


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Posted: May 6, 2019 10:38 AM
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While I like the sound of that I think the NCAA approving that is a different beast. I’ll keep my ???? and hope they apply the same tests.


Agreed.

While this is good news going forward, i doubt that it really changes our guys' cases. I'm not an expert, but i see these distinctions:

1) She still had to prove her innocence through 4 passed blood tests, and while it's great that her name is cleared, she still served 23 months of a 24-month suspension. That would be like our guys getting cleared to play before the ACC Championship game.

2) Even then, the NCAA would have to change the terms of its penalty. Right now, Giella and Galloway have been penalized not in months, but in terms of losing next year's entire season of eligibility. ZG has to evaluate whether or not to enroll in Grad school based on the slim possibility that he could be totally cleared in time to play, because simply having his suspension reduced won't do him any good.

3) NCAA guidelines are not allowed to take into consideration the amount of a banned substance that is detected. It is an absolute ruling. If a banned substance is present at all, the athlete is DQed from participation. We would say that there are so many common sense variables in this case, but the NCAA rules do not allow for interpretation of the data. A 'trace' might imply tainting rather than ingestion, but that is an interpretation and isn't allowed.

4) UFC has a working partnership with USADA, so any USADA rulings are implemented immediately. I doubt that the NCAA has a similar partnership but i do not know. If not, the decisions, rulings and advice of the USADA would certainly be relevant to future decisions by the NCAA, but not necessarily to old ones.

I hope I'm wrong. Living here in Augusta, where Zach went to school, i am simply hoping that Zach's (and Braden's, of course) name, and Dabo's program, get cleared.

Restored eligibility would be like winning the lottery.


Re: Ostarine

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Posted: May 5, 2019 5:40 PM
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...is a 5 star target at QB for the 2021 Recruiting Cycle

Word has it that CLEMSON U. holds the early lead for this game changer!


You drinking ? LOL


Posted: May 5, 2019 5:43 PM
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Wrong thread ? LOL


Re: You drinking ? LOL

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Posted: May 5, 2019 6:12 PM
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Eewwwps!!! ??


Re: Ostarine

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Posted: May 5, 2019 5:43 PM
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This should improve our chance of a successful appeal.

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Re: Ostarine

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Posted: May 5, 2019 5:48 PM
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”None of the four, like Ribas, had been able to provide evidence of a tainted supplement. But the trace amount they tested positive for, which the USADA is now able to see more clearly with new science, made it likely the positives did not come from intentional ingestion, the agency said.”


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Posted: May 6, 2019 12:57 PM
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The USADA is interpreting the data. They have that opportunity and expertise.

The NCAA uses third-party drug testing, so they don't have the expertise to interpret. Another credible agency must do it for them. This complicates communication exponentially.


Someone should forward to Spakoff, rhymes with, ;)


Posted: May 6, 2019 5:41 AM
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Maybe he'll mention it in his next hit piece


Has anyone ever taken Ostarine


Posted: May 6, 2019 6:30 AM
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on purpose or does it only come from unknown contaminated substances?

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Re: Has anyone ever taken Ostarine


Posted: May 6, 2019 7:29 AM
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I think it’s in the chickens. The breasts I cooked yesterday were bigger than a Velociraptor’s.

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I have

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Posted: May 6, 2019 7:34 AM
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You got a problem wit dat?




Would hate to have your

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Posted: May 6, 2019 8:11 AM
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Search history now!

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That's my kinda man...


Posted: May 6, 2019 10:39 AM
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if I was gay. I wouldn't go in for fancy pants who want to be girls. I'd be all in if I were gay.

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Re: Ostarine

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Posted: May 6, 2019 7:49 AM
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I was saying this when the story first broke. I’m a huge UFC fan and Jon Jones went through this same thing. He avoided a 4 year suspension because USADA found such low amounts of steroids in his system that they believed he didn’t knowingly take them. You can listen to Jeff Novitzky discussing this on Joe Rogan’s podcast.
https://youtu.be/so3qOEMZXDQ

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Word


Posted: May 6, 2019 7:52 AM
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Re: You're not going to Convince them of anything


Posted: May 6, 2019 9:42 AM
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You're not going to Convince them of anything


Posted: May 6, 2019 7:52 AM
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Fact..

Nutritional products, Especially related to weight loss/ gain, are the most adulterated items in food.

It is easy to test a drug with 1 active ingredient for purity. When you have 50 active ingredients it gets much harder, infinitely harder when you add a bunch of botanicals.

They were putting ephedra in everything a few years ago and not claiming it. I was reading 483's on a regular basis.


Probably good for changing NCAA rules


Posted: May 6, 2019 8:57 AM
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On this going forward at some point and improving testing but believe our appeal is in and don’t believe there really is any subjectivity based on the policy in effect at this time. We basically had to prove where it came from which is virtually impossible


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Posted: May 6, 2019 9:06 AM
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The UFC is a lot more lenient unfortunately. They even allow fighters to use cocaine, ostarine is a joke when it comes to steroids and I had never even heard of it so I can definitely agree with the ruling to overturn.


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Posted: May 6, 2019 12:57 PM
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I get it that you don't want unfair advantages going on in sports. I get it. But, do you not have to have some common sense to it? The amount of this banned substance being what it is alone should give you pause. I'm not sure of how they proceed after they find players with it or not; but one would think "we must do a deep dive to see if it's a bigger problem"! No doubt they did that and didn't find anything going on in the program! These players are all maybe a little bigger than when they came in; Dex may have lost a few pounds. I just don't see how they can look at this rule as a: "no fault" thing! This is one that deserves some wiggle room. If these players wanted to cheat: two were reserves and not even key reserves why would they not have done more than trace amounts? If they wanted what this substance promises; why not far more than what was found in other words? Makes no sense!

I hate it and the Smith thing b/c Coach Swinney runs a clean program. He strives to do it the right way. When b.s. comes up; be good to squash it like Clemson beat Alabama in the championship game in January.


I skimmed through this before clicking on the link


Posted: May 6, 2019 1:32 PM
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And thought they linked the substance to Strawberry-ritas. Haha

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Hopefully this bs stops and the players who are still here


Posted: May 6, 2019 1:35 PM
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GET TO PLAY NEXT YEAR

Ridiculous

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