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YOUR BALANCE
James Conner (PITT) gave us fits last year. We struggled
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James Conner (PITT) gave us fits last year. We struggled


Sep 8, 2017, 11:06 AM

some with their physical attack, and Conner was at the root of it running over and through a lot of our tacklers.

I imagine Gus and Auburn will try to do much the same with Pettway. I'm sure Brent and Dabo are preparing the team for a physical game. We gonna be ready?

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Yes, we will be ready. But more importantly, if we win


Sep 8, 2017, 11:09 AM

the coin toss will we elect to play defense first?

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Focus!***


Sep 8, 2017, 11:11 AM



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We might. Most teams do.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:05 AM [ in reply to Yes, we will be ready. But more importantly, if we win ]

Boob.

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Re: We might. Most teams do.


Sep 8, 2017, 11:31 AM

Not sure if sirious, but no teams choose defense.

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Of course you can't choose defense.


Sep 8, 2017, 11:38 AM

Just like you can't choose offense. But by deferring you're electing to play defense first just like by choosing to receive you're electing to play offense first. When winning a toss most teams defer, electing to put their defense out first. Of course there's the other way to way defense first and that's by kicking off. As dumb as that it is, it has happened.

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ol shanely, just can't stay away from tnet or this "subject"***


Sep 8, 2017, 11:40 AM



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"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


Re: Of course you can't choose defense.


Sep 8, 2017, 11:45 AM [ in reply to Of course you can't choose defense. ]

In reality, by deferring you're electing to receive the ball in the second half.

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You certainly can.


Sep 8, 2017, 2:37 PM [ in reply to Of course you can't choose defense. ]

Its just folks choose not to.

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So explicitly choosing to play defense at the coin toss is


Sep 8, 2017, 5:36 PM

an option? I don't think that's correct. :)

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Oh he's serious....unshakable now goes by "deleted"


Sep 8, 2017, 11:38 AM [ in reply to Re: We might. Most teams do. ]

on a lot of old threads from old usernames that have been banned/deleted.

https://www.tigernet.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1393034

https://www.tigernet.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1392937

A lot of his going off the deep end threads were unfortunately deleted by the mods.

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Re: We might. Most teams do.***


Sep 8, 2017, 11:38 AM [ in reply to Re: We might. Most teams do. ]





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I pulled this from the first article I found on google.


Sep 8, 2017, 11:41 AM

It's from the NFL and 2016.

"A staggering 82.5 percent of opening kickoffs were deferred, up from 65.6 a year ago..."

Wrong, Boob.

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defer vs defense


Sep 8, 2017, 11:42 AM

are two different things

smdh still

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Make it idjit proof and someone will make a better idjit.


Well of course. Thought any football 101 person knew that?


Sep 8, 2017, 11:48 AM

And I thought they also knew that deferring the winning toss is the same as electing to play defense first.

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Re: Well of course. Thought any football 101 person knew that?


Sep 8, 2017, 11:49 AM

But it's not, if you elect to play defense first then the other team can elect to receive in the second half.

If you elect to defer you are electing to make the decision to begin the second half, ultimately meaning that you are electing to receive the second half kick when you defer.

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But it's not...."ELECTING to play defense first"


Sep 8, 2017, 11:50 AM [ in reply to Well of course. Thought any football 101 person knew that? ]

would be to kickoff instead of defer.

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So in other words, they didn't elect to play defense first


Sep 8, 2017, 11:43 AM [ in reply to I pulled this from the first article I found on google. ]

they elected to defer

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nodding***


Sep 8, 2017, 11:43 AM



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Make it idjit proof and someone will make a better idjit.


Yes, of course. Deferring is electing to play defense first


Sep 8, 2017, 11:49 AM [ in reply to So in other words, they didn't elect to play defense first ]

just like choosing to receive is electing to play offense first.

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Re: Yes, of course. Deferring is electing to play defense first


Sep 8, 2017, 11:50 AM

Deferring is electing to choose at the start of the second half.

hth out loud

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LOLOLOLOL, same conversation again this year.


Sep 8, 2017, 11:51 AM [ in reply to Yes, of course. Deferring is electing to play defense first ]

I see you still aren't willing to concede that you're WRONG on this one.

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What am I supposed to concede?


Sep 8, 2017, 11:54 AM

Can you concede that deferring is synonymous to electing to play defense first? I'm sorry to break up the reach around, but it is.

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Re: What am I supposed to concede?


Sep 8, 2017, 11:56 AM

The team that wins the toss is basically electing which half to receive the ball in.

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Well of course. Choosing to kick is synonymous to electing


Sep 8, 2017, 11:59 AM

to play defense first, while choosing to receive is electing to play offense first. That's what I said.

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Re: Well of course. Choosing to kick is synonymous to electing


Sep 8, 2017, 12:02 PM

Yes, but no one chooses to kick on purpose. 99.9% of the time teams will choose to defer or receive. If they defer they are basically choosing to pick at the start of the second half.

Why is this so difficult?

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Yes, of course. Deferring is electing to play defense first.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:07 PM

Choosing to kick to start the game results in the other team choosing to receive to start the second half. And yes, that has happened numerous times.

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Re: Yes, of course. Deferring is electing to play defense first.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:09 PM

I'm aware it has happened, hence my "99.9% of the time" statement in my post.

However, deferring is not electing to play defense first. According to your recent posts you've stated teams cannot elect to play defense first.

When you defer you are giving the other team the first choice.

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Again, that's what I said.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:18 PM

"When you defer you are giving the other team the first choice".

The other team inevitably chooses to receive, which means you made a conscious decision to play defense first.

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Re: Again, that's what I said.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:21 PM

In the subject you didn't say that. And you are not making the decision after you defer, the other team is.

Example:

- Clemson wins the toss, and defers
- Auburn elects to receive
- Note, Clemson does not make a choice other than to defer
- Second half, Clemson elects to receive

There are three decisions made: defer, receive, receive. One team makes two of these decisions.

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Again, doesn't everyone know that?


Sep 8, 2017, 12:26 PM

"There are three decisions made: defer, receive, receive. One team makes two of these decisions."

Doesn't also everyone know that deferring IS making a choice to play defense first?

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Re: Again, doesn't everyone know that?


Sep 8, 2017, 12:29 PM

In those three decisions where did you see "play defense first?"

Here's a reminder: defer, receive, receive.

Again, read slowly and a few times, there is no defense listed.

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Re: Again, that's what I said.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:34 PM [ in reply to Re: Again, that's what I said. ]

In the subject you didn't say that. And you are not making the decision after you defer, the other team is.

Example:

- Clemson wins the toss, and defers
- Auburn elects to receive
- Note, Clemson does not make a choice other than to defer
- Second half, Clemson elects to receive

There are three decisions made: defer, receive, receive. One team makes two of these decisions.

You left out one ....."which goal do you want to defend!"

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Re: Again, that's what I said.***


Sep 8, 2017, 12:22 PM [ in reply to Again, that's what I said. ]





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Electing to play defense first means


Sep 8, 2017, 11:57 AM [ in reply to What am I supposed to concede? ]

The Captains say "We want to play defense" not "We defer". "We Defer" means we will choose what we want to do when the second half starts.

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Make it idjit proof and someone will make a better idjit.


Again, of course the captains can't say "we choose to play


Sep 8, 2017, 12:02 PM

defense first". I thought everyone knew that? But again, when you defer the other team would be fools to choose to kick, so therefore by deferring you're electing to play defense first.

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wrong again,


Sep 8, 2017, 12:04 PM

They absolutely can say they want to play defense first.

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Make it idjit proof and someone will make a better idjit.


Uum, okay.***


Sep 8, 2017, 12:05 PM



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LMFAO, that was the whole point of the very original


Sep 8, 2017, 2:07 PM [ in reply to Again, of course the captains can't say "we choose to play ]

conversation you had with us a few years ago and several of your handles ago. It was because some team had elected to play defense to start, thus, not getting the ball in the second half either.

You are correct in saying that typically teams elect to play defense first by deferring. That's a step better than you have been.

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There's nothing for me to concede.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:12 PM [ in reply to What am I supposed to concede? ]

To defer is by no means ELECTING to play defense first. There's only one way to accomplish that, and it's not to defer.

Still not sure why that's so hard for you to grasp/understand.

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That's incorrect


Sep 8, 2017, 12:14 PM

When coaches choose to defer they are absolutely making the decision to play defense first.

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Re: That's incorrect


Sep 8, 2017, 12:16 PM

Or to receive in the second half...

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WRONG.....


Sep 8, 2017, 12:16 PM [ in reply to That's incorrect ]

They've made the decision to DEFER their choice to the 2nd half.

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Wrong.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:19 PM

Making the conscious decision to defer is synonymous to making the conscious decision to play defense first. That's exactly why they choose to defer.

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Deer Shanely.....


Sep 8, 2017, 12:20 PM

What happens when you defer?

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When you defer


Sep 8, 2017, 12:23 PM

You choose to play defense first. Happens almost 83% of the time based on the first article I found.

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Wrong again....


Sep 8, 2017, 12:24 PM

what happens when you defer?

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When you defer the other team recieves.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:28 PM

That means, by deferring you decided to play defense first. That's why 83% of NFL teams defer.

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Re: When you defer the other team recieves.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:31 PM

This isn't the NFL though, it's NCAA.

You're also electing to give the other team the first choice.

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Let's try again....


Sep 8, 2017, 12:44 PM [ in reply to When you defer the other team recieves. ]

What happens when you defer?

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When you defer -


Sep 8, 2017, 5:45 PM

You (typically) play defense first. Coaches defer, electing to play defense first. Happens more so than not.

Did that answer your questions?

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No it didn't.


Sep 8, 2017, 7:29 PM

I see you're backtracking and throwing "typically" in there now. SMDH

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Sorry it didn't.


Sep 8, 2017, 9:55 PM

You must not be too smart. I haven't backtracked at all.

When you defer the other team can receive or kick. They typically choose to receive. Because if they choose to kick, then they choose to play defense first. When they choose to kick and play defense first, then you get the ball to start the second half too. Which is why almost no one ever chooses to kick. Although it has happened. The other guy guessed 99.9%, which may be accurate or it may not. Regardless, deferring does not always ensure you will play defense first. But 99.9%, typically, or whatever you want to say, it's all the same. However you word it, deferring almost always ends up in you kicking. When you kick, you play defense first. So when you defer you play defense first. If you win a toss and defer, you're normally going to play defense first. And every coach knows that, even though some layman apparently don't, like you, apparently. But the fact is, when coaches defer they know they're going to play defense first. That is, they can choose to play defense first. Which is what I have always said. And I'm right.

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Lol you aren't right, and you've never been right


Sep 8, 2017, 10:39 PM

Deferring is not electing to play defense. Never has been and never will be. Elect literally means to choose. Choosing to defer is exactly that, deferring, not choosing to play defense. If the option exists(which you've admitted it does) that you won't play defense first then you aren't "electing" to play defense first. It's very simple, and it boggles my mind that you're too stupid to understand the error in your logic. I honestly can't imagine going through life with no logic or reasoning skills.

You aren't man enough to admit you're wrong, and that just shows what kind of person you are. Don't even get me started on how pathetic it is that you do this year after year after getting banned over and over.

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Re: When you defer


Sep 8, 2017, 12:24 PM [ in reply to When you defer ]

Or you elect to make the decision to start the second half.

Seriously, how is that hard?

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Because here we are nearly 4 years later and shanely


Sep 8, 2017, 12:25 PM

still refuses to be a man and admit he's wrong.

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The guy said,


Sep 8, 2017, 12:30 PM

"Or you elect to make the decision to start the second half." Sure, which also means the other team will receive to start the game. When you kick to them to start the game, your defense goes out first. So, when you defer, you're choosing to play defense first.

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Re: The guy said,


Sep 8, 2017, 12:31 PM

What if there is a fumble on the kickoff return, or an onside kick?

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Interesting point indeed.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:32 PM

That would mean your choice to play defense first didn't work out as planned.

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Re: Interesting point indeed.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:35 PM

Or, that the other team's choice to receive didn't work out as planned. You know, because you didn't choose to kick you chose to defer.

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DEER LAWD YOU'RE AN IDJIT.***


Sep 8, 2017, 12:47 PM [ in reply to The guy said, ]



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That's not a very nice thing to say about LAWD, whoever


Sep 8, 2017, 5:46 PM

that is.

Moran.

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Deer tiggerz04


Sep 8, 2017, 12:25 PM [ in reply to Re: When you defer ]

"Deleted" user in this looong thread is Shanely aka Unshakable. This ain't his first rodeo.

https://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=14290203

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Re: Deer tiggerz04


Sep 8, 2017, 12:27 PM

I saw that up above, I'm honestly just having fun and seeing how long he will keep this nonsense up.

It's a really slow Friday at work.

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Glad you're entertained.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:31 PM

But again, it's simple: Choosing to defer IS choosing to play defense first.

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Re: Glad you're entertained.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:34 PM

But it's not, you're choosing to give the other team the choice to kick or receive to start the game.

You are not making a choice after you defer so therefore you cannot choose to kick (play defense).

You cannot make a choice if you do not have a choice to make.

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Sorry bud


Sep 8, 2017, 12:38 PM

Deferring is decision to put your defense out first.

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Re: Sorry bud


Sep 8, 2017, 12:38 PM

Its not, because when you defer it's not up to you anymore.

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It is.


Sep 8, 2017, 5:47 PM

Because deferring (almost) invariably results in playing defense first.

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Poor Boob


Sep 8, 2017, 12:31 PM [ in reply to Deer tiggerz04 ]

Seriously.

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Re: Yes, of course. Deferring is electing to play defense first


Sep 8, 2017, 12:56 PM [ in reply to Yes, of course. Deferring is electing to play defense first ]

Paging soccerkrzy®, figured you'd want to see this.

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Oh man, thanks for this! It wouldn't be football season


Sep 8, 2017, 2:09 PM

without a new scok of this obviously deluded and pathetic human being.

Makes me wish I spent more time on here.

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Re: Oh man, thanks for this! It wouldn't be football season


Sep 8, 2017, 5:51 PM

The funny thing is saying, "obviously deluded and pathetic human being" is based on something that you don't get and kinda shows you to be a, "deluded and pathetic human being"

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Yes, the verbal choice was to defer.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:14 PM [ in reply to So in other words, they didn't elect to play defense first ]

"..82.5 percent of opening kickoffs were deferred.."

That is, a conscious decision to play defense first.

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Re: Yes, the verbal choice was to defer.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:15 PM

Or a conscious decision to let the other team decide at the start of the game and you have a choice in the second half.

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Or,


Sep 8, 2017, 12:20 PM

A conscious decision to play defense first.

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Re: Or,


Sep 8, 2017, 12:30 PM

Or a conscious decision to let the other team choose.

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True again.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:34 PM

The other team receives, and you'll play defense first.

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Re: True again.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:37 PM

Correct, based on the other teams choice and not your own!

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Incorrect.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:39 PM

Fully based on your decision. If you choose otherwise, you're not going to play defense first.

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Re: Incorrect.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:44 PM

Who knows, after you defer it's up to the other team.

Again, simple logic, if you do not have a choice to make you cannot choose.

In an example, you choose to defer gives the other team the option to choose instead of yourself. Therefore, you cannot make a decision to kick the ball.

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You do have a choice to make. If you choose to defer you


Sep 8, 2017, 5:53 PM

are also choosing to play defense.

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Re: You do have a choice to make. If you choose to defer you


Sep 8, 2017, 5:57 PM

I think I covered that by saying if you choose to defer then it's the other team's choice.

It is impossible for a team to choose to play defense if the other team has the decision to make. It simply cannot happen.

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Impossible?


Sep 8, 2017, 6:12 PM

By deferring you almost invariably play defense first. Sounds pretty possible.

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You might want to look up the definitions for choose


Sep 8, 2017, 7:31 PM

And choice....you obviously don't understand what they mean...

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That's incorrect.


Sep 8, 2017, 10:04 PM

I do know the definition of the words choose and choice. Let me show you an example:

When you defer, you choose to play defense. The coach told the players to defer if they win the toss. He did that because he knows the other will choose to receive instead of choose to kick. Because that's asinine. Even though it happens. But in any event, telling the players to defer ends up in you kicking. Which means the coach wanted to play defense first. So yeah, when the coach chooses to defer, he is making a choice to play defense first.

Seems you're having some issues here. Are you choosing to be an idiot, or was is not your choice at birth?

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You really are this stupid, aren't you?***


Sep 8, 2017, 10:44 PM



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So we agree.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:34 PM [ in reply to Re: Yes, the verbal choice was to defer. ]

A conscious decision to let the other team decide at the start of the game is the same as making a conscious decision to play defense first. Good deel.

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Re: I pulled this from the first article I found on google.


Sep 8, 2017, 11:46 AM [ in reply to I pulled this from the first article I found on google. ]

Soooo, with that said I assume all can agree that when you defer you are essentially forcing the other team to receive the ball. That means you are putting your defense on the field first. In fact, teams with strong defenses often choose to play defense first for that very reason. Has anyone noticed Dabo has always chsoe to receive until this year where he's deferring more? That's to get our defense on the field first. Its a conscious decision.

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That's correct, Boob.


Sep 8, 2017, 11:51 AM

"when you defer you are essentially forcing the other team to receive the ball".

In other words, you're choosing to kick and making a conscious choice to pay defense first.

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That's the decision of the team you defer to, though.


Sep 8, 2017, 11:54 AM

You're not "electing" anything. You're "electing" to give the other team a chance to choose what they "elect" to do.

You're wrong. Get over it.

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Well that's true they can choose to kickoff and play defense


Sep 8, 2017, 11:57 AM

first which means they're also (ultimately) choosing to play defense to start the second half as well. And yeah, that has happened.

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Re: Well that's true they can choose to kickoff and play defense


Sep 8, 2017, 11:59 AM

But you said that deferring is the same as electing to play defense first, now you're understanding that deferring is giving the election to the other team first.

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Yes of course. It's always been the same thing. When coaches


Sep 8, 2017, 12:04 PM

defer they're making a conscious decision to play defense first. Not sure why this is such a difficult concept for some.

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Re: Yes of course. It's always been the same thing. When coaches


Sep 8, 2017, 12:06 PM

They're making the conscious decision to choose what to do at the start of the second half.

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Again, when you defer the other team ultimately elects to


Sep 8, 2017, 12:09 PM

receive. Therefore, when you defer you're electing to play defense first. That's actually what most coaches do.

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Re: Again, when you defer the other team ultimately elects to


Sep 8, 2017, 12:14 PM

Half right, you're not electing to play defense first. You're electing to choose in the second half.

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No, 100% right.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:15 PM

Choosing to defer IS electing to play defense first.

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He will argue his point for another twelve hours if you've


Sep 8, 2017, 12:16 PM [ in reply to Re: Again, when you defer the other team ultimately elects to ]

got the time

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And, you'll be there to


Sep 8, 2017, 12:21 PM

reach around the entire 12 hours. You enjoy that, Boob.

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You sound jelly.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:27 PM

Are you jelly?

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My goodness.


Sep 8, 2017, 12:35 PM

You poor fella.

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how long before b-meist deletes his stupid a$$ again?***


Sep 8, 2017, 12:48 PM [ in reply to You sound jelly. ]

that's the better discussion.

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LOL at the anger.


Sep 8, 2017, 5:25 PM

Why would I be deleted for stating the obvious? Some of you guys have pent up anger issues.

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The obvious??


Sep 8, 2017, 7:32 PM

And you'll get deleted like all of your previous attempts at a "comeback" on tnet, shanely.

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I'm sorry it's so difficlt for you.


Sep 8, 2017, 10:32 PM

But its true. Choosing to defer IS choosing to play defense.

Let's say its a presidential election, and the guy you like says he's going to nuke China if he gets elected. You vote for him knowing he's going to nuke China. So yeah, you didn't directly choose to nuke China, but by voting for that guy you chose to nuke China.

So yeah, when a coach tells his players to defer if they win the toss, he knows he's going to play defense first. So he chose to play defense first.

No reason for anyone to get banned, unless not being able to understand simple logic is a cause to be banned, or calling someone names is a cause to be banned, which I think it is. Regardless, you're guilty of both. And you know what? By choosing to call someone names, you've chosen to be banned (if the mods actually enforced the rules). So did you choose to call someone names or did you choose to be banned, or both?

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Re: He will argue his point for another twelve hours if you've


Sep 8, 2017, 12:33 PM [ in reply to He will argue his point for another twelve hours if you've ]

Lunch is at 1, so I've got til then. Then I might try to get some stuff done for the beginning of next week in case that hurricane comes this way.

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bob, it's interesting when you try to paint pictures with


Sep 8, 2017, 11:56 AM [ in reply to Re: I pulled this from the first article I found on google. ]

words. It reminds me of Kindergarten.

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Re: Yes, we will be ready. But more importantly, if we win


Sep 8, 2017, 12:26 PM [ in reply to Yes, we will be ready. But more importantly, if we win ]

TU ....I see what you are doing. Gonna be interesting!

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Tre and Chad be like "Bring it." Dex/Wilkins will determine


Sep 8, 2017, 11:10 AM

the lanes. Joseph and DOD have been there, done that. Muse and Simmons are hungry.

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Re: James Conner (PITT) gave us fits last year. We struggled


Sep 8, 2017, 11:12 AM

We should be a lot better from a pure talent standpoint this year. Boulware was great but did have limitations and Venables tried to help mask those. Lamar should be a lot better getting lateral from sideline to sideline and obviously he has 30lbs on Boulware and any RB we will see this year

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Re: James Conner (PITT) gave us fits last year. We struggled


Sep 8, 2017, 11:12 AM

Uh - the shovel pass was our Achilles heel last year. That game was the LAST game that we had any problem defending that play.

Our game with Auburn will be more like Perine and Mayfield and OU. Auburn should mail this game in and avoid the embarrassment.

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Conner had 20 rushes for 132 yards and a TD, plus 3 catches


Sep 8, 2017, 11:33 AM

for 56 yards with a TD. Both running and running after the catch, he straight-armed and plowed over and through several of our tacklers. Truth be known I'm sure we've practiced hard and will be ready for Pettway, but it's certainly something to think about.

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Re: Conner had 20 rushes for 132 yards and a TD, plus 3 catches


Sep 8, 2017, 11:34 AM

True, but the shovel pass to the TEs is what truly killed us all game.

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Oh I agree. And a lot of what happened after the shovel pass


Sep 8, 2017, 11:39 AM

was a big dude running through tackles.

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Re: James Conner (PITT) gave us fits last year. We struggled


Sep 8, 2017, 11:49 AM

I don't like these silly references to the Pitt game. Our guys were sleepwalking period. That was a mental lapse by the team. It happens to just about everybody at least once a year. Pitt was an inferior team that schemed well but that loss had more to do with what we didn't do than what they did. You people post about the Pitt game like they were better than Alabama or something. Tell me how did that Shovel pass crap work for the coots when they tried to exploit our "weakness?"

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Well I don't think it's silly at all.


Sep 8, 2017, 11:52 AM

I think the physical nature of Pettway and their rushing game is the biggest key to the game.

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Re: Well I don't think it's silly at all.


Sep 8, 2017, 11:54 AM

He does have a point, we had been going through the motions for the less talented teams until Pitt beat us. After that we turned it on down the stretch.

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Re: Well I don't think it's silly at all.


Sep 8, 2017, 1:04 PM

His rebuttal is insufficient. It's just another lame attempt to troll.


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Re: Well I don't think it's silly at all.


Sep 8, 2017, 1:38 PM

When you defer, you're deferring to receiving the kickoff until the 2nd half.

Once you kick off first you will receive in the 2nd half. There's no "choosing" before the 2nd half..

Shouldn't we get the Auburn fan to weigh in on this?

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Re: Well I don't think it's silly at all.


Sep 8, 2017, 1:46 PM

You replied in the wrong spot brother. I could care less about the coin toss or deferring. I was stating how silly it is to continue to bring up the Pitt game for reasons stated above. I wouldn't feed the troll if I were you anyway.:)

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Re: Well I don't think it's silly at all.


Sep 8, 2017, 7:59 PM [ in reply to Re: Well I don't think it's silly at all. ]

Haha. Wrong.

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I'm not attempting to troll at all.


Sep 8, 2017, 5:32 PM [ in reply to Re: Well I don't think it's silly at all. ]

That's what boob did when he brought the fact teams can elect to play defense first.

I was simply legitimately trying to spark conversation about Auburn's physical running ability.

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Re: Well I don't think it's silly at all.


Sep 8, 2017, 1:00 PM [ in reply to Well I don't think it's silly at all. ]

I agree but a reference to the Pitt game is silly for the reasons stated above in which you gave no answer for.

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No it wasn't silly to refer to the Pitt game.


Sep 8, 2017, 10:08 PM

Because that was a good reference to the other team being physical. Which is what I wanted to talk about concerning Auburn, until boob chose to start a reach-around instead. It's not my fault he can't help it.

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A late-in-season weakness in our D was dissected


Sep 8, 2017, 12:38 PM

and exploited by the tight end dive shovel or whatever the term.An X and O thing, not a Jimmy and Joe thing. BV said it.

It won't happen again.

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A late-in-season weakness in our D?


Sep 8, 2017, 1:48 PM

They make medicine for that

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Yes, but if it works for longer than 4 hours, you're


Sep 8, 2017, 1:56 PM

supposed to go see a doc.

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Lots of Sin~Man~Ticks being flung


Sep 8, 2017, 2:21 PM

Carry on ~ this is entertaining!

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Re: James Conner (PITT) gave us fits last year. We struggled


Sep 8, 2017, 7:37 PM

Seems to me... this thread Is authored by an Auburn fan.

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Re: James Conner (PITT) gave us fits last year. We struggled


Sep 8, 2017, 10:48 PM

B-Meist® You ready to ban another shanely scok?

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