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All-In [47779]
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One observation from last night - third parties.
Nov 7, 2018, 8:45 AM
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I noticed some Libertarian candidates in some states pulling in 2-4 percent.
I did not see very many Green Party or other left leaning third parties pulling enough votes to make any difference (looked like a slight Green showing in AZ but not elsewhere). Did these parties die on their own or is this the result of the more leftward tilt of the Democrat party? I'm not sure how the Dems were able to eliminate these fringe parties but the move seems to have been effective. There were some tight House races where a 2% Green vote would have tilted to the GOP incumbent.
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Heisman Winner [111193]
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Re: One observation from last night - third parties.
Nov 7, 2018, 8:49 AM
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after two years of this administration, those Jill stein votes are seeming rather silly to a lot of liberals right now.
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Oculus Spirit [97634]
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Music to my ears.
Nov 7, 2018, 8:53 AM
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Cognitive Madisonianism in action.
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Re: Music to my ears.
Nov 7, 2018, 8:55 AM
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I imagine it sunk it right about the time of the Kavanaugh hearings.
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Oculus Spirit [93579]
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I believe a lot of you folks were fed up before that.
Nov 7, 2018, 9:06 AM
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I doubt there's much the flyover dems can do about the radicals having the loudest voice in the party. I expect the DNC to pull the same stunt on Bernie and his crowd again. It wasn't right but I believe it was best for your party. Harris, Booker, Bernie and Elisabeth would get waxed if they became your nominee.
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Oculus Spirit [97634]
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The radicals are shutting up, and have for 2 years now
Nov 7, 2018, 11:16 AM
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They're all united in hate Trump, and moderate sounding now in their occasional non-Trump rhetoric. Very typical and normal response. My problem is with the GOP. They simply refuse to take a mandate, or see a mandate, and like scared little boys, they're holding onto that political center mark for dear life.
When dems get power, they go FAR left. When the GOP gets power, they hold that center line. Never move right. That's the difference.
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Orange Blooded [3389]
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Great observation.
Nov 7, 2018, 8:54 AM
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3rd party support seems to have wilted the past few years. Ted Metz, the Libertarian in Georgia, likely handed the election to Kemp last night in polling <1%. In the 2014 cycle, the (L) candidate got 2.4% of the overall vote. That one-point difference likely meant an outright win for Kemp, rather than a December runoff with Abrams.
IMO, it has more to do with candidates attaching themselves to the nationalism/populism brand of Trump, rather than running on conservative bona fides.
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Oculus Spirit [93579]
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Dems aren't morons.
Nov 7, 2018, 9:02 AM
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They can't speak out against the radicals, socialist and treehuggers because they don't want to alienate anyone that votes against pubs. Had Hillary and Obama been a little less caustic with their words toward reasonable people she might be potus and Obama's campaigning in Florida and other close races may have turn out differently.
If they don't silence the loudmouths in the house and senate the 2020 won't go like they want it either. America is two generations away from socialism and they can't continue to allow the socialist to dominate their party's voice.
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As of this morning, Sinema is down 15k votes
Nov 7, 2018, 9:09 AM
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And the Green Party woman has about 35k in votes.
So definitely made a difference here. I’d never heard of her though until poll results came out. I think the bastion of support is up in the hippie communes of Flagstaff.
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