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New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:01 AM
 

 
Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

If I’ve heard Dabo Swinney say it once, I’ve heard it more than 50 times during his coaching career. Win with class, lose with class. Maybe N.C. State head coach Dave Doeren needs to take note. Photo by Rob Kinnan / USATODAY Full Story »



Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:05 AM
 

Not going to be much winning with class next year. They lose everyone! I mean everyone.

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Would be surprised if they beat BC next week

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:14 AM
 

And Wake is even a toss up for them. That probably means another mid or even bottom tier bowl, and he's back on the hot seat where he belongs.

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Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:09 AM
 

David, very well written. Every word is absolutely true. I wouldn’t trade Dabo for any other coach win or lose!

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Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:15 AM
 

N.C. State is a joke. They've been chasing us and FSU for years. Doren should just accept his team will always be second fiddle to us and FSU.

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Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:44 AM
 

This article says it all! The towels, everyone is probably tired if hearing about the towels. I now I'm just glad Chubb got away with two, one for him and one for Doreen to wipe away their tears.

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Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:22 AM
 

Great article. I hope that the members of Clemson Nation that were butt hurt about Dabo congratulating Cuse now see how that isn't something to complain about. Doern is a dewsh and he sure showed it after the game. ####, given the chance he'd probably spit on the officials as they walked out like his trashy fans did. They played us well but we came back and won like the better team should. It's #### sad they can't stomach that.


Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:52 AM
 

This is the first time I've heard that Dabo talked the Syracuse team after the game. I knew he said win with class, lose with class but know I know what that REALLY means.

I don't think I cold have done what he did. I'm surprised that some Clemson fans were 'butt hurt' by what he did. Maybe they should make Ugay their favorite team.

Way to go Dabo!!!


Doeren is just a product of his environment...

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:22 AM
 

For as long as I can remember, aside from UGa fans, NC State fans are the most mouthy, whiny, low-rent trailer trash fans in college football.

Maybe we should all take-up a collection to buy Doeren some kerosene rags. He can tie them around his ankles to keep the ants off his candy a$$.

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Maybe that's why Chubb wanted towels from

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:34 AM
 

Kelly

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Re: Doeren is just a product of his environment...

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:47 AM
 

100% correct! What a whiny little prick.

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Re: Doeren is just a product of his environment...


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 4:38 PM
 

> 100% correct! What a whiny little prick.

That he is! And, I’d bet an autographed Kelly Bryant sweat towel that beside being a whiny little p****k, Doeren also has a itty, bitty, teenie weeny!

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Re: Doeren is just a product of his environment...


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 2:03 PM
 

^^^^????^^^^


I thought it was great that Dabo visited the Cuse locker rm

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:23 AM
 

He's got real class and represents our university well. Doeren is just a big flippin' baby.


Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:23 AM
 

Well said. Even earlier this week Dabo said if we win our goals are still on the table and if we lose we tip our hat to the better team and move on. Don’t think Doreen sees it that way....


Meh. I don’t put too much stock in what 6-3 coaches have

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:28 AM
 

to say.

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Agreed, but didn't realize Doeren was

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:48 AM
 

that tall

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Re: Agreed, but didn't realize Doeren was

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 4:20 PM
 

Maybe Doreen was wearing heels.

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 4:41 PM
 

Red, spiked heels!!!!!!! Similar to the clown shoes Coach Chuck Amatto used to wear when he coached State!

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Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:37 AM
 

Great words DH. They need to get to Doeren, although his pride would likely get in his way for the lesson he needs. When has complaining about I juries and penalties ever changed a game oitcome? Geez, he needs a break from coaching. Maybe permanent.

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He's had plenty of chances to learn how to lose

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:51 AM
 

Just not in games when he hoped he could win.


Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 8:58 AM
 

I went to the game with some good friends who are NC State grads, but sat in the CU section - one of them. They had us in the 4 corners of the stadium. I'll have to say that the experience was a nightmare. There were State fans sitting all around us, one of whom had had way too much to drink. They yelled obscenities at the refs and were basically obnoxious. When I went down to the men's room they were rude and the whole place was loud with their piped in rap music. My friends were good losers, but they were the exception to those who booed the officials and threw ice at them or spit on them. That behavior, which mimics that of the coach, has no place in college football. Go Tigers.

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Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:17 AM
 

Desperate losers - brings out the best in NC State.(Yeah, I don't think they get any better than that.)


Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:02 AM
 

A tale of two coaches


Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 12:59 PM
 

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.


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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:15 AM
 

Bump

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Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:16 AM
 

I raise my hand, I was one of the Clemson fans who didn't care for Dabo visiting the Syracuse locker room. I'll also raise my hand of being one that hated the way Doeren has acted over his loss to us. I'll also again raise my hand that I've just leaned the real meaning of how being classy represents it's self in men like a Dabo Swinney. I think that I have learned a lesson here on how to win and lose with class. Shaking the hand of the winner and admitting they were better than you that day, it surely looks much better to the people who are watching. The proof in having Class is in how people are seeing Dave Doeren after a loss, and knowing Dabo's actions after a loss is the difference in being Classy or being an A$S hole after losing a "Game"!!! Dabo represents his team and Tiger Nation with nothing but Class, and looks Classy doing it!!! I'm honestly proud of the coach that we have representing Clemson and our FB program!!!

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Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 2:32 PM
 

Curious as to why you had an issue with coach visiting the cuse locker room at first? I thought that was an amazing show of sportsmanship. I dont think any other coach in the country would have done that. He wanted the players to know that it wasnt about clemsons mistakes, but that they were the better team that day. Speaks a lot on our university. Also...some of these comments about State and their fans and doeren are just as bad as they were to us yesterday. Not happy with some of what ive been reading.


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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 11:13 PM
 

Honestly, I guess it was bc of the pain I was feeling over the loss to cuse, and my personal character took a hit by forgetting what Classy represents, and that is one actions of self!!!

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Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 2:32 PM
 

Curious as to why you had an issue with coach visiting the cuse locker room at first? I thought that was an amazing show of sportsmanship. I dont think any other coach in the country would have done that. He wanted the players to know that it wasnt about clemsons mistakes, but that they were the better team that day. Speaks a lot on our university. Also...some of these comments about State and their fans and doeren are just as bad as they were to us yesterday. Not happy with some of what ive been reading.


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Culture issue at NCST?

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:31 AM
 

Remember when the coach 2 years ago took a swing at Deshaun. Their fans were threatening their kicker's life last year. They yell WOLFPACK during the national anthem. Spitting and throwing things at our players and the referees last night. (Check out the video. Local law enforcement there was watching and doing nothing.) Idiot staff member tried to knock the ball out of our guys hand on the final play. Chubb's playground bully antics. Check out Mickey's pregame tweet about classless remarks fans were yelling about Watson injury. The team and staff are not directly responsible for the behavior of fans but the bar is being set very low by Coach Dave, Chubb, and the clowns on the NCST sideline.


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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 2:31 PM
 

Don’t forget that it was “Captain” Chubb who spit on the FSU endzone logo after they won that game. Is this kid supposed to be a leader???


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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 2:31 PM
 

Don’t forget that it was “Captain” Chubb who spit on the FSU endzone logo after they won that game. Is this kid supposed to be a leader???


Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:38 AM
 

I think the Best is Yet to Come for the Wolfees when they travel to BC next week because BC will give them A Physical Beat down.
I believe Dornean is "outa there" at the end of this year because too many SEC teams are desperate for anything better than what they have plus he loses almost everyone.

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Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:53 AM
 

But really, could we have expected any more from the coach who cited "knocking their (Clemson's) tailback out of the game" as a major accomplishment? Gotta put his attitude and actions last night in the "to be expected" category.

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Blaming injuries when 2 days before,

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:55 AM
 

said he wasn't concerned with them?

http://nsjonline.com/article/2017/11/doeren-optimistic-injured-wolfpack-players-will-be-ready-for-clemson/

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An organization takes on the characteristics of its leader.

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:56 AM
 

Dabo is teaching his kids sportsmanship and accountability. Doeren is teaching his kids to make excuses and not to accept accountability.

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 10:43 AM
 

when ESPN showed Dabo "talking" to Doeren. I remarked that Doeren obviously didn't like Dabo. Dabo was talking in his usual happy go lucky tone and Doeren was looking away disinterested. I should know. I don't like many people and have that same look myself many times. ;)

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That is a guilty look on Doeron's face, he is probably still


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:03 PM
 

feeling guilty about the "Gallman" take out quote from him.

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My honest feelings regarding NCSU football

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 12:01 PM
 

I have always had respect for NC State football and its tradition. I have felt that if there is a program in the ACC that should have the same success as Clemson it should be NC State. In the last 24 hours I have lost all respect for the NC State football program. From players' on-field antics to the fans' post game behavior I've seen a lot to make up my mind this is a program and fan base that doesn't know how to win nor lose and that there is a reason they have not won a championship since 1979 (if I recall the date correctly). Dave Doren's team committed penalties and errors that cost them the game. Instead of accepting responsibility and taking the high road, Doren blames officiating and since his team could not win the game he tries to dirty a hard fought Clemson victory with something he admits he found out on the way to the press conference. He doesn't take the time to find out and take the right channels to find out the facts, instead he seizes on the opportunity to slander a program his program doesn't hold a candle to. Dabo Swinney has become the second all time winningest coach at Clemson by doing things the right way and has earned a good reputation. Doren is a small man and its unfortunate that he is their coach. He owes Clemson and Dabo a public apology.


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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 3:16 PM
 

Well said.

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 5:09 PM
 

Thanks so much for saying what needed to be said. There are many Clemson fans who have loved the Tigers for generations. We have always been so proud of the class the program has shown. It feels great to know that class continues. Thanks again and Go Tigers!


David Hood...... This is the best article I've ever read...


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 12:47 PM
 

Great job!!!!!


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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 12:55 PM
 




People that blame officials and injuries.....


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 1:05 PM
 

Have no class. Injuries and officials are part of sports. When you lose, give credit to your opponent and work on your mistakes. It's part of being an adult. If you blame others you never grow up.


Re: People that blame officials and injuries.....


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 2:10 PM
 

Like Dabo has been saying for 2 weeks - no one is 100% at this point in the season.


Re: New Story: Win with class, lose with class. Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from Dabo


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 2:31 PM
 

Yeah, but it is doubtful he will learn anything...

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I wonder what Doeren's excuses and whines will be about


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 2:50 PM
 

next week when BC hands it to them.

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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 6:14 PM
 

NC State...a school of Tradition. They have a Tradition of having as much tradition of the USC Gamecocks....NO tradition.


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Posted: Nov 5, 2017 6:13 PM
 

OMG....another coach TRYING To out-Petrino Petrino. That trashy coach tried trick plays and a string of time-outs to win the game. WHAAAAA. Screw NC State. Clemson is the champion of the Textile Bowl, ONCE AGAIN.


Doeren had a hard time looking Dabo in the eyes at pregame


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 9:01 PM
 

meeting on field. The photo showed that awkward moment above. Probably feeling guilty about bragging about taking Gallman out last year.

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Dave Doeren could learn a thing or two from


Posted: Nov 5, 2017 10:26 PM
 

Rat Season in the 1960's.



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Wear that red beanie--don't get caught without it.

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Carry a Goodie Box with treats for the upper classmen--and it better never be EMPTY.

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