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New Story: Elliott is Clemson's "offensive engineer" in charge of Clemson offensive locomotive

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:01 AM
 

 
Elliott is Clemson's "offensive engineer" in charge of Clemson offensive locomotive

The locomotive that is Clemson’s offense is gaining steam, and a quick look in the cab shows that Tony Elliott is driving the train. Why does head coach Dabo Swinney call Elliott the "offensive engineer?" What does Elliott say about the offense? Full Story »



Re: New Story: Elliott is Clemson's "offensive engineer" in charge of Clemson offensive locomotive


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:18 AM
 

These guys(qbs) at Clemson won't have to travel thousand of miles to the west coast or spend thousand of dollars for a personal trainer to enchance their skill level anymore. They have it right here in their own backyard now with coach Streeter. One on one personal skill training for the Qbs. This year qbs are blessed and lucky to get their own personal trainer without spending thousands of their parents money. Great addition to the delevopmental program for the football team.




Choo Choo FSU! Coots......well your greyhound bus

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:27 AM
 

is about to be retired.


Reckon Dabo knows what he's saying?

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:10 AM
 

Don't get me wrong, architects have a vital purpose but the engineers keep the bridges and dams from collapsing, make the cars go and keep the lights burning. Makes me wonder if he isn't a little happy that Chad is gone. I'm ok with it.

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I refuse to offend architects...

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 9:17 AM
 

after having manipulated and screwed them out of so much money over the years. :)


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Re: Reckon Dabo knows what he's saying?

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:41 AM
 

I think that every Tiger fan, players, and coaches are more pleased with what we have now than what had with just Chad running the offence....

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I wouldn't say everyone but this thing has just about gone..

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 9:16 AM
 

far enough that the dumpers are letting up.

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Re: Reckon Dabo knows what he's saying?


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:22 PM
 

I think Chad's secret was that he came into a situation with
outstanding players. INMHO, he subsequently called some very inept
games as OC.


Re: Reckon Dabo knows what he's saying?


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 12:20 PM
 

Dabo's probably happy Chad is gone because he's a happy guy and thinks, "I found an awesome Offense Coordinator/friend and now he's a head coach."

That's our coaches attitude and one of his finer qualities.


Re: Reckon Dabo knows what he's saying?


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:25 PM
 

Well, that pair didn't do too badly against Oklahoma in the bowl
game, did they ?


Re: Reckon Dabo knows what he's saying?

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:18 PM
 

I could imagine that Dabo is happy that Chad is gone. I am. I'm
not sure that we realize how much we lost this year. Next year could be a struggle.


You know, you're right slumcock

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:28 PM
 

Your season next year will be even worse than this past season.


Re: You know, you're right slumcock

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:37 PM
 

Your post absolutely baffles me. What under God's green earth
would lead you to believe that I'm a Carolina fan? How wrong
can you get? Is the fact that I use correct English? Wise
up, man. We don't need to be attacking each other. The
actual Carolina fans will do that.


You know, you're right slumcock


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:39 PM
 

That 19% pulse says all that needs to be said.


You know, you're right slumcock

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:38 PM
 

You'll be wishing for 7-6 after you finish even worse next season.


Re: You know, you're right slumcock

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:50 PM
 

What are you talking about? My dating success. If so, you may be
a bit optimistic.


slumcock

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:55 PM
 

Your program is in shambles and it will be enjoyable watching it crumble to the ground where it's been most of recorded history.


Re: slumcock

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:00 PM
 

I assume you have got to be a Carolina fan, because our (Clemson's) program
is absolutely on the rise. How much is Spurrier paying you to spread
dissension on our site. I think we'll pluck your feathers again this season
in your own house.


your would think slum"cock" would make it obvious.


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:06 PM
 

It will be very much fun watching Spurrier fail in 2015 then take his ball and go home, leaving deluded #### fans such as yourself realizing the most prominent 4 year stretch in program history was nothing more than a quick fix farce.


Re: your would think slum"cock" would make it obvious.

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:12 PM
 

Okay. I can no longer reply to this kind of ignorance. God,
Melton, is Dabo a secret Carolina fan? Get out your dictionary,
if you own one, and look up the term "paranoia." Enough, no more.


Offensive "Engineer"

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 9:41 AM
 

Dabo needs to be aware of using the term "engineer" for someone who is not licensed. As a CU graduate engineer who is a PE licensed by the SC State Board, using such a term even frivolously is frowned upon, and technically is a violation of the state statute regarding the practice of engineering. Now, if Tony Elliott is a PE, we're OK! P.S. Don't ask me how the railroads get by with the terminology because I don't know--perhaps "grandfathered" somehow?


Re: Offensive "Engineer"

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 9:49 AM
 

This is hilarious! Makes me want to call him an engineer even more now. SMH


Re: Offensive "Engineer"


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:40 PM
 

You are absolutely right. It's hilarious. Much ado about nothing.
And, I'm not an engineer, but believe they should have the right to vote.


yikes

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 10:59 AM
 

good for you

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Re: Offensive "Engineer"***

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 11:03 AM
 





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Re: Offensive "Engineer"

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 11:19 AM
 

Calm down. I suppose ever medical doctor should boycott Coke products because they have Dr. Pepper. You take yourself too seriously and come off as pretentious. It's a play on words and in no way a declaration of another discipline of engineering.


Re: Offensive "Engineer"

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 2:48 PM
 

Yup, it sounds like I'm full of myself, Mr. Engineer, licensed Engineer!!!:(

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Wow....how bout you take a minute

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 11:29 AM
 

and pull your diploma out of your @ss...I can't stand these people that put themselves on a pedestal and talk about how others "aren't worthy." Get over yourself!

How old are you anyway? You must have recently graduated...

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So you took a day long test....

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 11:39 AM
 

after you completed your degree and passed. Big whoop. I hire ENGINEERS all the time, and could really give a rip if they have a PE or not. Not every Engineer is stamping a drawing, some of them actually WORK for a living.

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Re: Offensive "Engineer"

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 11:40 AM
 

Somebody needs to tell Dr. J to change his nickname to Mr J...geeeez I hope you were joking.


Re: Offensive "Engineer"

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 11:57 AM
 

something tells me you were the type of student that said he was an engineer while still taking classes.

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some would say "obviously not a Social Media engineer" ;)

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 11:59 AM
 

me? I assume sarcasm in there somewhere.


Re: Offensive "Engineer"

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 12:03 PM
 

I think Dabo is getting that 'Engineer' from Tony being an Engineering graduate from CLEMSON with a 3.5 GPA. Not bad IMO. Why can't Dabo call Tony an Engineer? He earned his degree from our university.

or - did you just not realize that Tony is in fact an "Engineer" and you stuck your foot in your mouth?


Re: Offensive "Engineer"


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 12:18 PM
 

Nope,

There really is a state state that says you can't call yourself an Engineer unless you're a PE. Being a geek, he's probably thinking that someone, like an #### retentive engineer, could mess with Tony/Dabo just for kicks if they make his title official. PE's are taught to be detail oriented and sticklers about things being correct.

I'm not going to get into a discussion about the worth of being a PE, but you do have to go to an ABET acreddited school to become a PE in SC. So, Tony is close (as Clemson is obviously acredditeted - also, i can't spell I'm . . . good at math.)

Past that, lighten up everyone.

Sincerely,

Lawtonius Funk, PE LEED AP, Clemson '01 (and naturally ridiculously good looking)


Re: Offensive "Engineer"

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 12:34 PM
 

I stayed a a Holiday Inn Express ...


Re: Offensive "Engineer"

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 3:14 PM
 

I bet that engineer was licensed.:)

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Re: Offensive "Engineer"


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 3:13 PM
 

Because he may not have a ### license??? Maybe he can't remember what an Engineer does without a license.

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Re: Offensive "Engineer"


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:09 PM
 

I think Dabo meant to imply that Coach Elliot will coach with
precision and a great attention to detail. Again, I believe the
term engineer was used figuratively. I'm happy to see that kind of
disciplined, precise approach applied to our coaching staff. Isn't
good coaching in ways analogous to engineering? No disrespect intended
to engineers, who undergo rigorous academic training.


are you saying his use of engineer is offensive?

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 12:19 PM
 

Noice

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That is a load of bull

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 12:47 PM
 

outside of civil engineering, a vast majority of engineers (*gasp* i called them engineers) are not PE certified because their job roles do not necessitate it or even value it. On top of that being an engineer isn't even necessarily a function of having a degree as I've met degreed engineers not worth their salt and i've met non-degreed engineers who would probably put PEs to shame.

On top of that, are you going to serve all the people in this great state who use the term liberally in a non-serious way like Dabo here who are "domestic engineers" or "culinary engineers" etc? What about all those corporate jobs that OFFICIALLY use the term such as "supply chain engineer" or "logistics engineer"? While those last ones do grind my gears a little bit, I'd really like to see where all these people (including my-engineering-self Clemson BSME in '10 MSME in '12) are breaking the law.


Re: That is a load of bull

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 1:32 PM
 

It's hilarious. Even in civil engineering many people have an engineering title without a PE Cert.

I'd like to see this statute too. Got to be some misinterpretation going on.

The chapter on engineering and surveying in the SC code of law starts off by defining "engineer" as a Professional Engineer as defined in the chapter. So, maybe it says basically one cant call themselves a PE without being certified.

Doubt they mean engineer cant be used in a title. Even without some of the more liberal uses, I'd venture to guess most every PE had a title of Staff Engineer, Field Engineer, Project Engineer, or even Office Engineer, before they got took that test.


LOL.

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 2:26 PM
 

Tell me more about how special your PE license is.

I'll tell you what kissing a girl is like.

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Re: LOL.

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 3:19 PM
 

That's called a slobber swopper Engineer, license optional!!! ;)


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Re: Offensive "Engineer"


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 3:07 PM
 

You mean that with all the plans I've drawn up for the buildings I build myself, and the plans for my cabinets, bookcase, and Island I've built for my wife and myself. That its against the law that I say, I Engineered and constructed them myself, bc I'm not a licensed Engineer. That's Bull chit!!! How many hands is that horse you rode in on. Hold up and don't answer that, it could be tracking to close to a licensed Veterinarian;)

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 6:53 PM
 



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Re: As a registered PE in multiple states, I declare you a moron***


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:41 PM
 

You are not qualified to declare anyone a moron. You are an engineer,
not a psychiatrist. Speaking of licenses!!


Re: Offensive "Engineer"


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:32 PM
 

Come on, give us a break. He was using the term figuratively,
not literally. I'm currently trying to "engineer" a date with
a good-looking woman I know. So have me arrested. Get over yourself.
If Dabo can "engineer" a great 2015 season, more power to him. Your
exalted status will remain intact.


You can call yourself whatever you want. What you can't

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:42 PM
 

do it provide engineering services unless you are a PE. You also can not advertise yourself as an engineer or as providing engineering. Manufacturing plants are loaded with engineers that are not only not PEs but they haven't even been to school to study engineering.

Neal in NC, PE

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Re: You can call yourself whatever you want. What you can't


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:33 PM
 

I'm not aware that any of us had referred to ourselves as engineers,
as you incorrectly implied. The issue was Dabo's use of the term to
describe one of his coaches. I'm sure there are engineers on this site.
I have a Ph.D., but would not get in an uproar if Dabo referred to one
of his coaches as a "doctor" of defense. What is the big deal? These terms
are used figuratively all the time. As someone mentioned before, let's slack
off and take a deep breath. There are a lot of smart people in the world, engineers
included. Let's give it a break.


You're too much of an idiot to see he wasn't replying to you***


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:34 PM
 



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Re: You're too much of an idiot to see he wasn't replying to you***


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:49 PM
 

But, I exercised my right of free speech and replied to
him. I assume he man enough to respond for himself without
your help. Why can't you express your opinions without name-calling?
Shame.


Well then you are too much of an idiot to understand what

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 9:25 PM
 

I was talking about. That's all krazy was saying. He understood what I said, which was almost the exact opposite of what you thought I said.

Let's see if your massive phd peabrain can understand plain English.

Nobody can legally provide engineering services or advertise themselves as an engineer who provides engineering services unless they are a licensed professional engineer. Dabo can call anybody he wants to an engineer. Anybody can call themselves an engineer, but they can not call themselves an engineer and provide engineering services unless they are a PE.

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Here's my take on the Chad!

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 9:55 AM
 

I loved the guy and appreciate the offense he brought to Clemson. He was a master of deception. I do think, however, he was a tad bit stubborn and the system often over-ruled talent sometimes (particularly last year). In other words he tried to make the talent fit the system instead of molding the system around the talent, ie Cole Stoud.

I think our co-coordinators will be more flexible and will begin with talent and the offense is in very capable hands.

I wish Chad all the success in the world and believe if anyone can turn around SMU it is him.

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Re: Here's my take on the Chad!


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 3:21 PM
 

100% absolutely!!!

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Re: Here's my take on the Chad!


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 5:36 PM
 

You guys are way too upset about the 'engineer' thing. Only having the word Engineer in A title in my industry is simply something I've seen. Maybe it's to avoid confusion as to who sealed the drawings.

I also worked at a nuclear plant prior to being a PE and was an Engineer and was a Design Engineer at a fi as an EIT. Maybe it's not a law. Maybe design companies have elected to do this.

Whatever, I consider myself more of a people person that talks to the Customer so that the Engineers don't have to. What is wrong with you people! I'm going to go play with my Jump to conclusions mat now.


Re: New Story: Elliott is Clemson's "offensive engineer" in charge of Clemson offensive locomotive


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 11:17 AM
 

So,....now Chad Morris was a bum or worse?? Y'all are some ungrateful sons of female dogs!


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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:40 PM
 

Why the uproar criticizing our head Fb for giving one of our coordinators praise. Must everything be taken apart and analyzed

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Re: New Story: Elliott is Clemson's "offensive engineer" in charge of Clemson offensive locomotive


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 8:55 PM
 

This site is incredible. The vitriol and venom seems unlimited. I
guess if you want to form a firing squad, get Clemson fans, as represented
on this site, and form them into a circle. Sad.


If you're volunteering to be a target...I'm certain Tigernet

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Posted: Feb 16, 2015 9:01 PM
 

can accommodate you

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Re: If you're volunteering to be a target...I'm certain Tigernet


Posted: Feb 16, 2015 9:11 PM
 

So you speak for everyone on Tigernet? What is your problem? Are you here
to discuss Clemson football or just to trash other fans who may not
agree with every word you say? Where does your hatred for fellow Clemson
fans come from? Have I ever insulted you? If so, point out when and where.
You are part of the very problem I have alluded to. You, with your unreasoning
hatred and intolerance, are in no way representative of the Clemson fan base.


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