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NOT football but a refreshing video of a young grad.......
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NOT football but a refreshing video of a young grad.......


Jun 5, 2013, 9:10 AM

Tore up his approved valedictorian speech and prayed The Lord's prayer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et26zMZL0Po

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"When I was young, I was sure of many things; now there are only two things of which I am sure: one is, that I am a miserable sinner; and the other, that Christ is an all-sufficient Savior. He is well-taught who learns these two lessons." -John Newton


you know that happened in Littlejohn


Jun 5, 2013, 9:19 AM

Liberty High School (or Pickens, can't remember). I heard about it on the radio yesterday. The cool thing was the rousing applause from the audience afterwards.

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Re: NOT football but a refreshing video of a young grad.......


Jun 5, 2013, 9:20 AM

Good for him.

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What do you find refreshing about it?


Jun 5, 2013, 9:22 AM

Also, P&R board.

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Re: What do you find refreshing about it?


Jun 5, 2013, 9:24 AM

The fact that he stood up for his beliefs. I am not even that religious but I think groups like the ACLU are disgusting.

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^^^This***


Jun 5, 2013, 9:31 AM



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Would you feel the same if he read from the Koran?


Jun 5, 2013, 9:36 AM [ in reply to Re: What do you find refreshing about it? ]

That would demonstrate even more bravery, what with so few Muslims in the country. Right?

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Re: Would you feel the same if he read from the Koran?


Jun 5, 2013, 9:38 AM

I would be fine with it. Like I said I am not religous. The kid worked his ### off to earn the honor to speak in front of his classmates. He shouldnt have to change his message to fit the mold of some organization.

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Sounds good.


Jun 5, 2013, 9:40 AM

One more---what about if he tore up his speech, and made a brief comment rejecting interracial marriage? Would that also be brave, in your view?

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Re: Sounds good.


Jun 5, 2013, 9:42 AM

Wow... So now we are going from a message of religion to a message of hate. One of these is not like the other. You are REACHING.

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Yes, admittedly I am reaching.


Jun 5, 2013, 9:49 AM

I'm asking because everyone seems to consider it a "brave" act to stand up for his beliefs. And in this case, those beliefs just so happen to coincide with 75% of the country (more here, in the south).

Personally, I don't see it as brave at all. I'm glad he has strong convictions, and I too think it was appropriate. I just wouldn't call it "brave" because it falls so easily inside the norm for our culture.

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Re: Yes, admittedly I am reaching.


Jun 5, 2013, 9:52 AM

not sure why you keep putting brave in quotes. I have not said that word once.

Hell no one has said that but you.

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Ok.


Jun 5, 2013, 9:55 AM

Was just curious.

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That would be offensive to most. Seriously doubt the Lord's


Jun 5, 2013, 9:44 AM [ in reply to Sounds good. ]

Prayer is "offensive" to many people in the US.

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That was my point.


Jun 5, 2013, 9:49 AM

Bravery doesn't come from doing the popular thing.

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Re: That was my point.


Jun 5, 2013, 9:51 AM

The Muslim prayer wouldn't be popular in the US....

Fact is you went from that to a message of hate to try and STREEEEETTTCCCCHHH to a point. The fact that you tried to compare those two just made you look foolish.

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Since you're a stickler for quotes,


Jun 5, 2013, 9:59 AM

here's what you said,

"The fact that he stood up for his beliefs" was refreshing to you.

All I was trying to find out was how far you would go. It's easy to applaud someone for standing up for their beliefs, when they are ones you agree with.

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Re: Since you're a stickler for quotes,


Jun 5, 2013, 10:02 AM

I dont believe in Christian Beliefs. I am not religious.

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Gotcha.


Jun 5, 2013, 10:10 AM

Let me rephrase, then. Here's my view:

It's easy, not "refreshing," to stand on the side of popular opinion.

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Re: Mike O'Koran?


Jun 5, 2013, 9:38 AM [ in reply to Would you feel the same if he read from the Koran? ]

I remeber when he played at UNC

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Re: Mike O'Koran?


Jun 5, 2013, 9:38 AM

I thought he was our Offensive Coordinator.

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Re: Would you feel the same if he read from the Koran?


Jun 5, 2013, 9:40 AM [ in reply to Would you feel the same if he read from the Koran? ]

Cant speak for everyone but i would feel the same.

Although i would like to know the full context of this story.

If he was told to not read religious statements in his earlier submission and chose to do so anyway then i applaud him.

If he gave a "fake" speech for approval without religious statements thereby deceiving the Admin and then changing it up even though there was no resistance then i don't think that is cool.

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Re: Would you feel the same if he read from the Koran?


Jun 5, 2013, 9:47 AM

It was Liberty High School. I graduated from there so I know many people that were there. Apparently the school district (Pickens County) was recently sued by the Freedom from Religion Organization (or some name that is similar) because a volunteer student usually stands up at every board meeting and requests to say a prayer. He did submit a speech to the administration for approval, and they were scanning for religious content, as well as, other material that they may deem inappropriate. He tore up the original speech as he began, and then said "I think most of you will understand when I say this.... (began prayer)."

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What was the result of the lawsuit?


Jun 5, 2013, 9:52 AM

Just out of curiosity.

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