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Gather round for a good Jounge talk about "Relationships"
Oct 8, 2019, 3:01 PM
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So, as ICT approaches the tenth anniversary of marrying ICShe and while I am working like a dog to keep up with a 2 year old son, I feel like I am wasting a valuable resource from many of the good fellows on this virtual brotherhood. For those of you who have walked this road before, I'd like to get an idea of what some realistic expectations are for where I am and where I'm headed...
1) How long have you been married?
2) Do you have kids- if so, number/age(s)?
3) Would you consider yourself- UDP, lower middle class, upper middle class, wealthy, Pawless?
4) What hobbies do you partake in with your spouse (aside from sport forking- but also, what frequency should I be expecting sport forking as I near 40 with a kid in the house)?
5) What do you focus your time on with your kid(s)?
6) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what you SHOULD do) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer?
7) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what to avoid) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer?
It is no coincidence that I limited this to 7 questions, as all jounge things should be 7. This isn't a competition to praise your spouse and make your situation appear perfect. That wouldn't be very helpful if it isn't sincere. It's probably also not the best spot to rant about everything you hate in your life (Especially your family- I mean, feel free if it's sincere, though). Just looking for some good pointers for keeping my head on straight going forward in marriage and fatherhood, and maybe a chortle here and there. I figure that's the kinda thing Teh Jounge is good at...
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congratulations... you have officially reached the point in
Oct 8, 2019, 3:05 PM
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your life that it is probably no longer worth living.
1 - 27
2 - 3
3 - before 1 & 2, UMC, now destitute living paycheck to paycheck. Don't let your kids play sports.
4 - running kids around to sports
5 - acquiring groceries, clothing, gadgets, and sports equipment for them
6 - LOL it's too late for you
7 - see #6
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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Sports scare me too, what you describe is legitimately what
Oct 8, 2019, 3:17 PM
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I fear my life becoming, and I'm not sure I'll be able to handle it. There has to be another way. I'm going to try to steer my son toward fishing as much as possible.
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Re: Sports scare me too, what you describe is legitimately what
Oct 8, 2019, 3:23 PM
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You have to stop it early, because once you get sucked in you can't get out because wife and kids will guilt you by saying you don't care enough to watch/support them... wife will say she loves nothing more than watching them play thus insinuating that you have to feel that way also... you can't be honest with them and say no I'm not paying for the top of the line equipment and private coaches because you're NOT going pro... and so on and so forth.
Fishing - good call. Recreational sunbathing, competitive neighborhood walking all good alternatives.
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PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND YOUR SWEATER HAPPENED.
Oct 8, 2019, 3:26 PM
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thanks for that, btw
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Re: PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND YOUR SWEATER HAPPENED.
Oct 8, 2019, 3:27 PM
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Tiddies make a man do some crazy shid.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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You ain't kidding brother***
Oct 8, 2019, 3:34 PM
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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I don't think this will be helpful to you, as I'm behind
Oct 8, 2019, 3:13 PM
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you in the rat race....but if I had to do it all over again, I'm not sure I'd go to college or anything like that again. I think I might would have just gone to the Keys or something after high school and been a bartender for awhile. Work on some fishing boats, maybe smuggle some drugs here and there. Not have to worry about money and 'keeping up' so much, you know?
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Yooooooo
Oct 8, 2019, 3:16 PM
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1) How long have you been married?
15 years next May, Holy Fuck
2) Do you have kids- if so, number/age(s)?
3 fucktrophies, 8,6, and 4
3) Would you consider yourself- UDP, lower middle class, upper middle class, wealthy, Pawless?
Distinctly middle class, would be more upper middle class without so many kids.
4) What hobbies do you partake in with your spouse (aside from sport forking- but also, what frequency should I be expecting sport forking as I near 40 with a kid in the house)?
We work out alot together. We do family stuff alot but the weeks are just robotic trying to get ready for the next day (after the gym). Sport fucking with any regularity is gone out the window.
5) What do you focus your time on with your kid(s)?
Making it to the next day without killing one of them.
6) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what you SHOULD do) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer?
It ain't easy. You can't hold grudges. Enjoy the little things. Practice patience. When you do get to long dick it, make it count.
7) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what to avoid) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer?
Avoid stupid meaningless arguments. Avoid hiding anything from significant other. Avoid holding things in though, if it truly means something to you, speak your mind.
I could go on and on. I love my wife and I am very happily married, but it still aint easy.
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What an insightful, honest, unfiltered,
Oct 8, 2019, 3:27 PM
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boring ass post, you ####.
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Heisman Winner [105551]
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Dude, #### is not the proper nomenclature.
Oct 8, 2019, 3:33 PM
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Faggot
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Orange Blooded [4701]
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2 year old, lol
Oct 8, 2019, 3:23 PM
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You ain't seen NUTHIN yet.
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Who's scok is this?***
Oct 8, 2019, 3:24 PM
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Orange Blooded [3166]
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That's the shortest answer to 7 questions I ever seent
Oct 8, 2019, 3:29 PM
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Cmon lady, If the thread sucked you in, at least play by the rules  ">
and to think, I have spared you asking to see your funbags all day today...
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Re: That's the shortest answer to 7 questions I ever seent
Oct 8, 2019, 3:37 PM
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1) How long have you been married? 12 years
2) Do you have kids- if so, number/age(s)? 2 kids, 8 & 4
3) Would you consider yourself- UDP, lower middle class, upper middle class, wealthy, Pawless? Pawless of course
4) What hobbies do you partake in with your spouse (aside from sport forking- but also, what frequency should I be expecting sport forking as I near 40 with a kid in the house)? laundry
5) What do you focus your time on with your kid(s)? Dance, baseball, golf, tennis, basketball... I moonlight as a kiddie uber service
6) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what you SHOULD do) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer? Happy wife, happy life
7) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what to avoid) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer? It goes fast
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You got that #### right.
Oct 8, 2019, 6:18 PM
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Son is 3.5. Daughter due in January. I just turnt 41. I’m too old for this ####. People ask me if I’m excited for the next one. I’m gotdamn terrified.
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Re: Gather round for a good Jounge talk about "Relationships"
Oct 8, 2019, 3:26 PM
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1. LOL marriage
2. LOL no, they have tons of goalies to prevent that.
3. Lower Middle. I don't eat Ramen but my financial stability is like that kenetic sand
4. Concerts, some gaming, brewing beers, nature stuff.
5. Not forming any.
6. and 7. You SHOULD AVOID this stuff at all cost.
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Re: Gather round for a good Jounge talk about "Relationships"
Oct 8, 2019, 3:28 PM
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1) 4
2) 2 kids. 19 months and -2 months
3) Lower-middle middle class (Would be Middle to upper if wife still worked and had no kids)
4) We do a lot of house projects together. Go on walks. watch this is us
5) just hanging out and playing with toys, reading books, going for walks to the park
6) marriage - only way it works is if you two are both trying to make it work. gotta find a way to deal with each others baggage. Parenting - not really sure yet
7) marriage - never go to sleep mad
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if you have not already started
Oct 8, 2019, 3:29 PM
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start saving now for college in a 529 plan
my kid went 5 years through college, living off campus with expenses, and I didn't write a single check
full disclosure, I started saving the instance he was born but the first half of life before college, the savings went into a trust like fund and the second half went into a 529. The initial savings paid for everything that we couldn't pay for through the 529
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To add to this, in-state tuition has averaged about a 5 - 7% inflation rate per year.
Oct 8, 2019, 6:30 PM
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If that continues... well... do the math. You’re probably looking at over $190,000 for four years at an in-state school. Maybe way over that. We plan to home school all the way to our kids’ BSs.
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I plan to homeschool my kids by making them watch
Oct 8, 2019, 8:38 PM
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Nonstop episodes of Dirty Jobs. By the time my kids are ready for the real world they'll be way ahead of their peers because they will be willing to work hard and do all the #### these entitled millennial faggitz can't or won't do for themselves...
College will be a joke in 10-15 years
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I was all "What sort of trick is this mess?"
Oct 8, 2019, 3:47 PM
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Then the dog started doing his best Billy Joel.
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Re: Gather round for a good Jounge talk about "Relationships"
Oct 8, 2019, 3:48 PM
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1) How long have you been married?
Two years one month and twelve days
2) Do you have kids- if so, number/age(s)?
Not yet
3) Would you consider yourself- UDP, lower middle class, upper middle class, wealthy, Pawless?
Upper middle class
4) What hobbies do you partake in with your spouse (aside from sport forking- but also, what frequency should I be expecting sport forking as I near 40 with a kid in the house)?
We go to the gym together. Partake in walking the dog. We have crossovers on television shows. We go to all NC State home football games and get shithoused. We are trying actively trying for kids, so my numbers are skewed, but before trying, it was 3-4 times a week.
5) What do you focus your time on with your kid(s)?
No kids, just sportforking
6) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what you SHOULD do) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer?
Realize its a team effort. She sucks at some things. I suck at some things. Together, we do not suck at many things. If one of you is good at something, take control of that area.
7) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what to avoid) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer?
Arguing is very rarely productive, so just dont take the bait when you know its there. It is easy to argue, but harder to move forward once you do. Don't wait until the other person asks you for an apology, always beat them to it.
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For the record, I guess I should answer too
Oct 8, 2019, 3:55 PM
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1) How long have you been married?
About to hit 9 years
2) Do you have kids- if so, number/age(s)?
One 2 year old
3) Would you consider yourself- UDP, lower middle class, upper middle class, wealthy, Pawless?
Financially- somewhere between UMC and wealthy; Mentally- somewhere between UDP and redneck white trash
4) What hobbies do you partake in with your spouse (aside from sport forking- but also, what frequency should I be expecting sport forking as I near 40 with a kid in the house)?
Both college football fanatics (Aug-Jan), lake bums (and occasionally beach), travelers, big on trying restaurants and cooking different foods, separately I am a big hunter and golfer while she loves to binge watch TV/movies- neither of us care to do those things together. As for sport forking, it aint near as much as it once was... but it's enough to get by. That doesn't help with my mid-life crisis/strange fascination, but I've managed to be fully faithful for almost a decade
5) What do you focus your time on with your kid(s)? I teach him the "milestones" that CDC and daycare tell me he should be able to do mentally, physically, and socially, but I also just take him around everywhere with me and basically walk him through everything I'm doing and explain that stuff. I figure that's the best education I could give. That and just doing things that make him laugh and feel loved. I will say that it definitely feels like there's never enough time though, and it's crazy how fast he's already gone from an infant to farting on his mom and laughing about it.
6) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what you SHOULD do) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer? I'm probably the wrong person to answer this one- marriage is by far the hardest thing I've ever done, and I'd say my wife probably spends more time mad at me than feeling the love... Maybe shut up??? For kids- just be present and supportive.
7) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what to avoid) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer? Again, for marriage, maybe shut up  and don't be overprotective of the kids. They need to fail, fall down, get minor bumps and bruises on the outside and inside- it makes them grow and makes them tough. It's also important to learn limits and why you don't do things from experience.
That's all I got. I'm about to bounce for the day, but thanks for those who have and continue to participate. I'll check again tonight to see what I can learn from the old heads in the PM.
Later Jounge
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Orange Blooded [4701]
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That's cute, you still have hobbies outside your kids.
Oct 8, 2019, 3:58 PM
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More advice:
When you have one kid, you can still get by going to a nice restaurant.
When you have 2, one of them is undoubtedly going to spend an hour trying to poop in the bathroom of said restaurant.
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Solid advice. soon to be in the 2 kid club***
Oct 8, 2019, 4:02 PM
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2 kids are still man coverage... it's when you go zone
Oct 8, 2019, 4:07 PM
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that you can feel your will beginning to break.
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^^^Troof. I know because I know.
Oct 8, 2019, 4:29 PM
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There's only so much you can control in zone coverage. You're just playing to prevent the big screwups at that point. You let the dunk passes go for short yardage a LOT more.
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I've been thinking
Oct 8, 2019, 4:10 PM
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that the change from 1 > 2 isn't going to be as big as 0 > 1. The first one already ruined our life. cant get much worse
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Orange Blooded [4701]
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Agreed. And you'll realize what a jerkhole you were over
Oct 8, 2019, 4:13 PM
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your first kid.
Junior isn't that special or smart.
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I already dislike kid 2
Oct 8, 2019, 4:14 PM
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It's a girl instead of a boy. Going to be so ####### great in 15 years when I'm stuck in the house with 3 women.
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Orange Blooded [4701]
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My oldest is a girl...
Oct 8, 2019, 4:17 PM
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so much drama, bless your heart.
My 4 year old son woke up this morning and asked Alexa to play Iron Man by Black Sabbath.
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Oculus Spirit [97716]
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Bill Cosby (RIP) said it best. Parents with one child are
Oct 8, 2019, 4:34 PM
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not really "parents". Sure, one child is a huge change, BUT you can still have a life. They just end up being absorbed into YOUR life as they age. 2 and it gets complicated. Your life will then have no choice but to absorb into THEIR lives. At 3 you're just like fuggit, I'm just along for the ride.
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He also drugged and raped many women***
Oct 8, 2019, 4:48 PM
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yep. so disregard***
Oct 8, 2019, 5:10 PM
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Imagine if you will, having kids the ages of yours, mostly
Oct 8, 2019, 4:13 PM
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out of the woods from every day being hell, then BOOM twins. Happened to a fella I grew up with.
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Re: Gather round for a good Jounge talk about "Relationships"
Oct 8, 2019, 4:06 PM
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1 - 18
2 - 3
3 - We do well. It's all relative. We're poor in Manhattan.
4 - Clemson football games, otherwise she hates every other hobby I like and vice versa
5 - Hunting, cub scouts, Clemson games, soccer, karate, camping, hiking, all the usual kid stuff
6 and 7 I'm well on the record with my advice.
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My situation
Oct 8, 2019, 4:07 PM
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1) How long have you been married?
3 1/2 years this time. Almost 15 years with the first wife.
2) Do you have kids- if so, number/age(s)?
Married into 6 kids. Ages 11-21.
3) Would you consider yourself-
UDP, lower middle class, upper middle class, wealthy, Pawless?
Upper Middle
4) What hobbies do you partake in with your spouse?
Watching Football, Drinking Beer, Movies, Live Music
5) What do you focus your time on with your kid(s)?
Depends on the kid. Legos with a few. Video Games with a few. Teaching some to drive. Trying to focus on each individually at times so they know what it means to have a father's attention.
6) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what you SHOULD do)
for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer?
It sounds cliche, but... talk. Sometimes when you don't want to (and sometimes when she doesn't want to she'll need to). Communicate. Good stuff, bad stuff. That broke down the first time around for me, I try to make it a priority this time around. As for kids, I try to treat them like their people. Hear them, listen to them, make sure they are known they are heard. And sweat only the big stuff.
7) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what to avoid)
for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer?
Sometime in my first marriage it became more comfortable for us to just let each other do what we wanted and not pursue, on purpose, time to find common ground. For parenting, I'd say the first thing I had to adjust to and learn is that every kid has a different effective point on discipline. Every kid needs boundaries and guidelines but will react differently depending on how those are laid out.
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Ho ho hollldd up
Oct 8, 2019, 4:12 PM
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Married into 6 kids. Ages 11-21.
so is that vag rekt or what? Also why would you marry into 6 kids. That's Greenr x 2. She must have great tids or something
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And yall wanna bust on ME for having so many kids***
Oct 9, 2019, 6:44 AM
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This topic needs a whole new thread
Oct 9, 2019, 10:29 AM
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We can't give him a pass on this. We are the lunge
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Re: Gather round for a good Jounge talk about "Relationships"
Oct 8, 2019, 4:49 PM
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1) 23
2) 3 - college senior, college junior, HS junior
3) solid middle class
4) Clemson sports, visiting family, checking out historic sites and parks, happy hour
5) Used to do "family outings" - hikes, geocaching, beach, sightseeing...now I never see the kids
6) Marriage - honesty is the best policy; Parenting - the world is designed for families of 4 (cars, houses, hotel rooms, tables in restaurants, etc) i.e. the third child is EXPENSIVE (but worth it)
7) Marriage - be patient and find the right girl; Parenting - be supportive and encouraging, not critical and negative
Hope that helps
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6 is spot on... I haven't told the truth on a hotel booking
Oct 8, 2019, 4:55 PM
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in 12 years. You just about can't book a room for 2 adults, 3 kids.
And in any car, 3 on a bench seat does not work for very long...
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Re: Gather round for a good Jounge talk about "Relationships"
Oct 8, 2019, 5:09 PM
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1. 12 years
2. none, on purpose and no plans to. This is something we discussed early on and agreed neither of us wanted kids.
3. DINKWAD, you do the math
4. We both like college football and both watch a good bit, me more than her and me usually later as well. Beach, boat, hanging out with friends and good food are other commonalities. I like to fish, cook and don't really hunt much anymore but i enjoy shooting and time in the woods or just outside. I like screwing around in the garage fixing stuff or piddling in the yard. She like crafts, and stuff like that, she picks up and puts down craft type hobbies going back and forth between them. This give us some time apart to recharge so to speak.
5. Not a parent, but wife of is in the school system and i have plenty of close friends with kids that we keep occasionally, travel with etc. The best advice i can give is to spend time with them one on one, any time is good time.
6. Listen. And don't listen so you can plan what you want to say next. Sometimes she doesn't even want a response, she just wants me to hear her ordeal or frustration. Listen.
7. Shut your dumb mouth. Listen to what she is saying. Don't say something flippant or off the cuff that you will regret later. Shut you trap, think then respond if it is only going to help the situation.
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Re: Gather round for a good Jounge talk about "Relationships"
Oct 8, 2019, 5:19 PM
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1) 42+
2) 2 ...up there
3) Pretty well off/very lucky muf'er
4) Travel & Tiger FB
5) Amuse their kids, and demand payback for raising them properly
6) Always tell the truth no matter / Advise options, but let them decide
7) Don't buy wife a meat slicer for birthday/xmas/anniv…..do not lear ar girlfriends
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Re: Gather round for a good Jounge talk about "Relationships"
Oct 8, 2019, 6:08 PM
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Ahhite. Here go APM's answers:
1) How long have you been married? 24 years in March
2) Do you have kids- if so, number/age(s)? 4 - 2 the fun way, 2 adopted
3) Would you consider yourself- UDP, lower middle class, upper middle class, wealthy, Pawless? Middle middle class - as others have noted, would be higher w/o 4 kids and way higher if my wife could do a job that paid more rather than doing a job that fits with the kids' schedules and gives great insurance (i.e., the public school system).
4) What hobbies do you partake in with your spouse (aside from sport forking- but also, what frequency should I be expecting sport forking as I near 40 with a kid in the house)? Meh. We travel on rare occasion. LOTS more sport forking when away than at home.
5) What do you focus your time on with your kid(s)? youngest - karate, next - special needs stuff, next - just good Dad time, with the occasional date, oldest - getting his ### to the finish line with college apps and his Eagle Scout
6) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what you SHOULD do) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer? Kids are great - but it WILL change your lifestyle, therefore, don't compare yourself to others financially if you have more than a couple of kids or choose a lifestyle that keeps you home rather than traveling for work, etc. Marriage is work, but worth it. Be content with the blessings you have.
7) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what to avoid) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer? Avoid being too strict on your kids. ALWAYS be nice to your kids, even when they eff up and deserve your wrath. Not soft, not permissive, but nice. APM was way harsher on lil'APM than he should have been. I have learned with the others.
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Re: Gather round for a good Jounge talk about "Relationships"
Oct 9, 2019, 9:06 AM
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1) How long have you been married?
13 years
2) Do you have kids- if so, number/age(s)?
8 year old boy and 7 year old girl
3) Would you consider yourself- UDP, lower middle class, upper middle class, wealthy, Pawless?
UMC
4) What hobbies do you partake in with your spouse (aside from sport forking- but also, what frequency should I be expecting sport forking as I near 40 with a kid in the house)?
Concerts/music, drinking, home improvement projects
5) What do you focus your time on with your kid(s)?
Usually after-school activities (currently football).
6) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what you SHOULD do) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer?
For marriage - be kind. For parenting - be consistant.
7) If you could give someone one piece of advice (what to avoid) for marriage and one piece for parenting, what would you offer?
For marriage - try, don't be lazy. For parenting - make sure the kids feel loved when they go to sleep. (not in a CS02 way)
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Either everyone in the jounge does very well for themselves
Oct 9, 2019, 11:35 AM
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and we are not a very diverse group or everyone is lying about what wage class they're in. Everyone is upper middle class here? Or maybe it's just my perception of what upper middle class is.
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Sociologists Dennis Gilbert, William Thompson and Joseph
Oct 9, 2019, 11:39 AM
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Hickey estimate the upper middle class to constitute roughly 15% of the population. Using the 15% figure one may conclude that the American upper middle class consists, strictly in an income sense, of professionals with personal incomes in excess of $62,500, who commonly reside in households with six-figure incomes.
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six-figure incomes ain't jack when it comes to being rich
Oct 9, 2019, 11:45 AM
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though. The best guide to rich is by the late Felix Dennis. It is as follows:
$2-4 million: The comfortable poor
$4-10 million: The comfortably off
$10-30 million: The comfortably wealthy
$30-80 million: The lesser rich
$80-150 million: The comfortably rich
$150-200 million: The rich
$200-400 million: The seriously rich
$400-800 million: The truly rich
$800 million - $1.998 billion: The filthy rich
$1.998 billion and Above: The super rich
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Upper Middle Class doesn't necessarily mean rich though
Oct 9, 2019, 11:52 AM
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I mean, their definition puts me in the UMC but I certainly don't feel it.
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Interesting, that number seems much lower than
Oct 9, 2019, 12:03 PM
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I would have thought. My Perception of upper middle class would be Drs, Lawyers, etc making a couple hundred thousand a year. I suppose I get to claim UMC by this definition as well.
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Yeah, I was setting that bar at $200k+ originally but that
Oct 9, 2019, 12:05 PM
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does not take into account assets and debts so you can make $500k and spend $510k and be deadass broke.
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in fairness... UMC has a huge range-
Oct 9, 2019, 11:42 AM
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$100k-$350k per year (household income). I'd imagine most people who are married with kids that have Clemson (or other) degrees fall into that category...
The better question is why no one will own up to have often they're sport forking after 10+ years of marriage. I'm tryin to figure out if my expectations are too high, or if most people just stop giving an eff (literally and figuratively) after 10 years and kids...
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Not enough***
Oct 9, 2019, 11:53 AM
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