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Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory
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Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 9, 2019, 8:00 AM

press conference, do y'all remember him telling us it would be an 11-year rebuild? Or did he seem confident he could win early and often? It must be the former.

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Don't remember him promising us anything.


Dec 9, 2019, 8:03 AM

And he's delivered.

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Re: Don't remember him promising us anything.


Dec 9, 2019, 2:04 PM

He has OVER delivered.

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Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 9, 2019, 8:04 AM

He said you would reach 90k points before he even came close to turning it around.

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Well - GWP has now reached the 90k point level ... so ...


Dec 12, 2019, 5:02 AM

.. Coach can start turning it around !! Full speed ahead ... -:D

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If people were as good as their obituary - and products were as good as advertised - this would truly be a wonderful world !!


I just listened to again actually he promised success early BUT


Dec 9, 2019, 8:11 AM

He did say if there were injuries, transfers, poor support from fans, a few down years of recruiting, elevation of the game, facilities that need to be upgraded, that it may take longer


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Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 9, 2019, 8:14 AM

I remember he said that the clemson job is like any 15th century European cathedral, it is in a constant state of repair.

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Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 9, 2019, 8:24 AM

Hahahahaha. That’s a good one, man. Seriously. But . . . Also very sad. ??

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Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 9, 2019, 8:35 AM

I found a clip from the introductory conference. He looked pretty young back then.



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Was it CBB who said the program's engine didn't need a major


Dec 9, 2019, 8:38 AM

overhaul just an "oil change"?

Or was that Monteleeee?

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Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 9, 2019, 8:41 AM

When you say "rebuild", what exactly was he "rebuilding" to? Going to the tourney and losing in the first round?

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getting to the tourney consistently is more than we do now


Dec 9, 2019, 8:43 AM

nm

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If he doesn't correct the course this season his rebuild


Dec 9, 2019, 8:47 AM [ in reply to Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory ]

will include taking a team that went to the NCAA tournament for the 4th year in a row in his first year, to...

-Sweet 16 in his 8th year
-Early NIT exit in his 9th year
-Missing the NIT in his 10th year

That's some serious progress!

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Re: If he doesn't correct the course this season his rebuild


Dec 9, 2019, 8:55 AM

Brad did say then" it's good to take over a program in good shape." Hate to see where it would be now if it was in bad shape.

I would like to ask him if the program is where he envisioned it at in year 10?
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You can ask him tonight on his first Tiger Calls tonight on wccpfm.com.

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Re: If he doesn't correct the course this season his rebuild


Dec 9, 2019, 9:00 AM [ in reply to If he doesn't correct the course this season his rebuild ]

If you don't see progress on our roster, then you aren't watching. Look at our roster this year compared to his roster his second year....

Bryan Narcisse was our second guy coming off the bench that year. LOL. Oh yeah, and our back up center was Catelin Baciu.

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I definitely see progress in our roster from year 2 to year


Dec 9, 2019, 9:04 AM

10. And next year will be even better. Hth

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Roster progress


Dec 9, 2019, 9:07 AM [ in reply to Re: If he doesn't correct the course this season his rebuild ]

Sounds like a great criteria for the NCAA selection committee to use. I can just hear the discussion on selection Sunday now...

"Clemson - Hey they've made all kinds of roster progress. What's their record. 15-17....? NOPE!"

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Re: Roster progress


Dec 9, 2019, 9:13 AM

Man, that is a fantastic argument. You should be a lawyer. You definitely interpreted my post exactly as intended. SMH.

My point is, is that we have the most talented roster than we have had since I can remember. Our team is very young, with our only senior being Tevin Mack.

We had our best recruiting class this past year and have 2 top 100 commits for next year.

We have had injuries to 3 of our starters and 4 injuries overall. This is a rebuilding year. Every team has them.

I never understood why fans have such lofty expectations of our basketball team.

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Apparently this is our 8th rebuilding year in


Dec 9, 2019, 10:27 AM

Coach Brownlee's 10 years at Clemson.

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"such lofty expectations"


Dec 10, 2019, 11:44 AM [ in reply to Re: Roster progress ]

What the heck are you talking about? It is NOT too lofty to expect to go to the NCAA tournament at a significantly higher clip than we have.

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Re: Roster progress


Dec 10, 2019, 9:50 PM [ in reply to Re: Roster progress ]

You sound like a coot talking about their football program

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Re: If he doesn't correct the course this season his rebuild


Dec 9, 2019, 7:25 PM [ in reply to Re: If he doesn't correct the course this season his rebuild ]

Classy that you attempt to defend Brownell by bashing his former players. Thing is, Baciu and Narcisse are still playing basketball 8 years later. None of Brownell’s graduated bench reserves in the last two seasons are playing basketball.

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Why don't we wait to see how this year plays out


Dec 9, 2019, 10:53 AM [ in reply to If he doesn't correct the course this season his rebuild ]

before wasting time whining and complaining?

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No thanks, I'll complain on my own schedule. Based on prior


Dec 9, 2019, 11:12 AM

years though, I can probably guess how this year will play out...

We'll win some games against bad ACC teams, we'll lose some games against good ACC teams. The wins will get people excited (as they should) and we'll sneak up and win a game or two that we shouldn't before losing a game or two that we shouldn't. We'll miss the NCAA Tournament again and be on the bubble for the NIT. We've all seen how this movie ends because we've watched it over and over.

Now, that being said, if I'm wrong and we make the NCAA Tournament, I will readily and happily admit that this season is among the greatest seasons ever coached. But I highly doubt that will be the case based on what we've seen so far.

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Re: No thanks, I'll complain on my own schedule. Based on prior


Dec 10, 2019, 12:43 AM



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Dec 10, 2019, 7:14 AM [ in reply to No thanks, I'll complain on my own schedule. Based on prior ]

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years though, I can probably guess how this year will play out...

We'll win some games against bad ACC teams, we'll lose some games against good ACC teams. The wins will get people excited (as they should) and we'll sneak up and win a game or two that we shouldn't before losing a game or two that we shouldn't. We'll miss the NCAA Tournament again and be on the bubble for the NIT. We've all seen how this movie ends because we've watched it over and over.

Now, that being said, if I'm wrong and we make the NCAA Tournament, I will readily and happily admit that this season is among the greatest seasons ever coached. But I highly doubt that will be the case based on what we've seen so fa




man i sure wish we had more fans like you. you must be quite a guy. the life of the party kind of guy.

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Oh hi there derp, I've missed you! Quick question, is


Dec 10, 2019, 8:06 AM

anything I said incorrect based on the last 10 years?

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Re: Oh hi there derp, I've missed you! Quick question, is


Dec 10, 2019, 8:12 AM

i doesnt matter if you are correct or not. the guy is our coach and he deserves our support as long as he is our coach. but if it makes you and all these other goobers feel like real men to get on an internet board and trash him then that is certainly your right. it just makes you look sad and kind of pitiful imo. while you are at it maybe you morons can fill us in on who has done a better job at a place where it certainly is not easy to win.

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Most of the criticisms aren't anti CBB...


Dec 10, 2019, 9:47 AM

they are simply facts put out there to correct the false narrative a few posters are continually shoving in the face of tnetters.

Everyone hopes CBB does well. Everyone hopes Clemson basketball does well. No one wants to be force fed justification after justification for the state of the program after every single win/loss. It's tiring and leaves a bad taste in the mouth of the casual and/or undecided fan.

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it's weird how some folks complain about the fact that


Dec 10, 2019, 11:51 AM

many fans have grown weary of this same old so g and dance. They take the citing of facts as complaining and a lack of support. Look, I support Coach Brownell, but he needs to do better. And he's MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME to show signs of doing better. And this year - unless he shows marked improvement - looks like it could be a looong season. Nothing wrong at all with expecting better than that in year 10.

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What is this false narrative you speak of?***


Dec 10, 2019, 12:42 PM [ in reply to Most of the criticisms aren't anti CBB... ]



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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


I'm going to need to see your hall pass missy.


Dec 10, 2019, 12:44 PM

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


For starters...


Dec 10, 2019, 12:50 PM [ in reply to What is this false narrative you speak of?*** ]

Making up inflated rankings for an opponent.

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/A-simple-yes-no-would-suffice-26493964

Here’s the thing, you could have just said Colgate is a good team. Instead, you make things up to strengthen your position, which ends up undermining it.

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Re: For starters...


Dec 10, 2019, 12:53 PM



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Make it idjit proof and someone will make a better idjit.


Be careful. You're going to get added to the


Dec 10, 2019, 1:48 PM

"TaterNet Hall Monitor" group.

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Re: Be careful. You're going to get added to the


Dec 10, 2019, 1:10 PM



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Make it idjit proof and someone will make a better idjit.


Again, I didn't make anything up.


Dec 10, 2019, 4:13 PM [ in reply to For starters... ]

I have no reason to make something like that up.

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Great, this should be easy to clear up...


Dec 10, 2019, 4:32 PM

Please provide a link to any ranking service that listed Colgate as their 2019 preseason #1 team.

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Buzz Williams, Leonard Hamilton, Rick Barnes, Oliver Purnell


Dec 10, 2019, 10:14 AM [ in reply to Re: Oh hi there derp, I've missed you! Quick question, is ]

Gregg Marshall, Scott Drew, Frank Martin, Chris Beard, Randy Bennett, Jim Larranaga and Tony Bennett...off the top of my head.

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Re: Oh hi there derp, I've missed you! Quick question, is


Dec 10, 2019, 12:41 PM [ in reply to Re: Oh hi there derp, I've missed you! Quick question, is ]



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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Re: Why don't we wait to see how this year plays out


Dec 9, 2019, 12:39 PM [ in reply to Why don't we wait to see how this year plays out ]

Lol this is hypocrisy its finest. You were ready to fire Scelliott after the TAMU game last year, despite them having way accomplished more than Brad.

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I could be wrong, but this sounds negative and borderline


Dec 9, 2019, 1:47 PM

complaining..........

https://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=24004649#24004649

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Geez, and that was on Sept 9, 2018? I guess it's acceptable


Dec 9, 2019, 1:57 PM

to whine and complain that early in the season in football after Clemson had been to the playoffs 3 years in a row, winning it all in 2016, but in basketball you have to be patient and see how the season plays out in the 10th friggin year of the coach's tenure.

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Yes.***


Dec 9, 2019, 1:59 PM



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


I'm more concerned about the Textile Bowl tradition...


Dec 9, 2019, 2:03 PM [ in reply to I could be wrong, but this sounds negative and borderline ]

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Its-definitely-time-to-stop-calling-it-the-Textile-Bowl-24259311


Maybe it's time SC moved on from being called the Palmetto State. I can't remember the last time we used palmetto logs to build a fort with.

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I'm no expert,


Dec 9, 2019, 2:05 PM

but even I can see a pattern here.

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


I wasn't ready to fire anyone.


Dec 10, 2019, 12:46 PM [ in reply to Re: Why don't we wait to see how this year plays out ]

I strongly disagreed with the play calling in that game. I feel that I was justified, since we nearly lost the game and the QB our OCs hitched their wagon to proved that he was neither a superstar QB nor devoted to Clemson.

The playcalling for Trevor in that game was very poor IMO.

It says a lot about you and some of the others here that you feel the need to reference a post I made over a year ago in a feeble attempt to make me look bad.

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You don't anyone on Tnet to make you look bad.


Dec 10, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


"You don't anyone on Tnet to make you look bad."


Dec 10, 2019, 4:26 PM

In English, please.

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I left out "need" on porpoise


Dec 10, 2019, 6:25 PM

just so you could try to get the last word.

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Re: I wasn't ready to fire anyone.


Dec 10, 2019, 7:02 PM [ in reply to I wasn't ready to fire anyone. ]

You certainly made it sound like you were ready to fire them in multiple post. You showed your ### and apparently you don't like owning your own thoughts. If you didn't act like a self righteous douchebage when people have legitimate concerns over a underwhelming basketball coach I wouldn't bring up your ridiculous posts about an national championship and award winning coach.

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Im-not-sold-on-the-Elliott-Scott-arrangement-23997821
https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/We-need-to-apply-best-is-the-standard-to-our-OCs-24010031
https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Nothing-really-24004200
https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Thats-fine-if-youre-cool-losing-to-Alabama-most-years-24037727
https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/I-dont-blame-Lawrence-for-the-A38;M-pass-rush-23997880#23997880
https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/I-agree-100***-24001283
https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Exactly-He-was-a-victim-of-poor-play-calling-and-awful-blocking-24002556#24002556
https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/I-completely-disagree-with-your-mentality-24003558#24003558
https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Honestly-when-has-it-not-looked-disjointed***-24003947

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Re: I wasn't ready to fire anyone.


Dec 10, 2019, 7:18 PM



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


I'm guessing that's you making fun of yourself?


Dec 11, 2019, 9:31 PM

Since you said that most of your posts are you making fun of yourself.

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That’s a man putting on sunglasses...


Dec 11, 2019, 9:36 PM

take it how you want.

Hit dog hollers.

By the way, did you ever find that poll?




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Re: I wasn't ready to fire anyone.


Dec 10, 2019, 7:48 PM [ in reply to Re: I wasn't ready to fire anyone. ]



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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Re: I wasn't ready to fire anyone.


Dec 10, 2019, 9:08 PM [ in reply to Re: I wasn't ready to fire anyone. ]



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Re: I wasn't ready to fire anyone.


Dec 11, 2019, 7:58 AM [ in reply to Re: I wasn't ready to fire anyone. ]

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Re: I wasn't ready to fire anyone.


Dec 11, 2019, 8:34 AM [ in reply to Re: I wasn't ready to fire anyone. ]

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Make it idjit proof and someone will make a better idjit.


"The QB our OC's hitched their wagon to"


Dec 11, 2019, 5:49 PM [ in reply to I wasn't ready to fire anyone. ]

Wait.....you mean the one they named the starter after week 4 who lead us to a championship?

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No, the one who started the first few games of the season.


Dec 11, 2019, 9:32 PM

Including the A&M game.

That was clear in my post.

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why do you call FACTS "whining and complaining"?***


Dec 10, 2019, 11:46 AM [ in reply to Why don't we wait to see how this year plays out ]



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uh-oh


Dec 9, 2019, 9:10 AM

Karen is NOT going to like this.

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Please try to be more respectful


Dec 9, 2019, 10:02 AM

and address her as Judge Karen

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"IDIOT POSTER OF THE MONTH SO FAR...GWP-- You have won IPM Award for your failure to completely comprehend a clear post & then choose to attack someone who points out your ignorance. While you are not yet in the same No Class Catagory as deRoberts, ClemTiger117 & Tigerdug23, you are getting closer to the Sewer Dwellers." - coachmac


You have no idea as to the situation he inherited.


Dec 9, 2019, 10:51 AM

There were some very significant issues behind the scenes within the program that were not made public, which took a great deal of time and energy to address and repair.

I know you and others here don't care for me, and will ask for links, but there are no links. You'll just have to trust me on this. No, I can't share details. There are certainly other people who are aware of those details as well, but they won't be sharing them either.

Disclaimer: this is not an excuse for where we are in year 10, and I am not blaming our loss yesterday or any other current negative aspects of the program today on that situation. But it was a huge deal in the first few years of Brad's tenure.

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link to all of these behind-the- scenes issues?


Dec 9, 2019, 10:53 AM

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Yes.***


Dec 9, 2019, 10:53 AM



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Thanks, I knew I could count on you


Dec 9, 2019, 10:55 AM [ in reply to link to all of these behind-the- scenes issues? ]

for a non-productive comment.

BTW, who is that in your profile pic?

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I couldn't help but notice that you didnt answer my question


Dec 9, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


He’s also had “many” people who aren’t familiar with Clemson


Dec 9, 2019, 11:40 AM

ask him why our flag wavers wear overalls. “Many” people.




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


How many is "many"?


Dec 9, 2019, 11:49 AM

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


I don’t care if you believe me.***


Dec 9, 2019, 11:49 AM



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


"trust me"


Dec 9, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Did you tell him orange overalls are ...


Dec 9, 2019, 11:54 AM [ in reply to He’s also had “many” people who aren’t familiar with Clemson ]

..... the BEST?? -<img border=">

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If people were as good as their obituary - and products were as good as advertised - this would truly be a wonderful world !!


All of tnet did.***


Dec 9, 2019, 11:56 AM



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Well, since you say that ALL of TNet said so...


Dec 9, 2019, 9:20 PM

I think it should be called TaterNet from now on.

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Sounds about right


Dec 10, 2019, 9:16 AM

coot!

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Make it idjit proof and someone will make a better idjit.


If you can’t understand that grown men wearing overalls


Dec 9, 2019, 9:17 PM [ in reply to He’s also had “many” people who aren’t familiar with Clemson ]

at a football game might look ridiculous, especially to people who aren’t familiar with the “tradition,” then I can’t help you.

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In the words of a true tnet legend...


Dec 10, 2019, 6:38 AM

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/thread/Son-those-overalls-support-Clemson-more-than-you-ever-will-431708

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Re: In the words of a true tnet legend...


Dec 10, 2019, 9:15 AM



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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Re: In the words of a true tnet legend...


Dec 10, 2019, 9:48 AM [ in reply to In the words of a true tnet legend... ]



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Aspiring member of the TigerNet Sewer Dwellers


Re: In the words of a true tnet legend...


Dec 10, 2019, 10:43 AM [ in reply to In the words of a true tnet legend... ]

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"IDIOT POSTER OF THE MONTH SO FAR...GWP-- You have won IPM Award for your failure to completely comprehend a clear post & then choose to attack someone who points out your ignorance. While you are not yet in the same No Class Catagory as deRoberts, ClemTiger117 & Tigerdug23, you are getting closer to the Sewer Dwellers." - coachmac


That post contained a lot of emotion over an


Dec 10, 2019, 11:05 AM [ in reply to In the words of a true tnet legend... ]

article of clothing.

I'm glad the orange overalls mean a lot to some people, but I don't like them. Guess what? That's okay, and it doesn't mean I don't appreciate our traditions or want to honor them.

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No, you don’t have to do any of those things...


Dec 10, 2019, 11:08 AM

but you don’t have to make fun of Clemson fans that do, either.




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


You and your hall monitor pals make fun of


Dec 10, 2019, 4:26 PM

other Clemson fans, multiple times daily, for a variety of reasons. Your attempt to defend anyone from unfair criticism isn't fooling anyone.

With that said, you clearly have a strong attachment to orange overalls. Did you dress up for a farmer for Halloween?

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Link to me making fun of any tradition that has roots in


Dec 10, 2019, 4:42 PM

Clemson's history? Link to me making fun of anyone for their major? Link to me making fun of anyone for their background, or what they do for a living? Let me guess, you're not wasting your time?

That's the problem with your arguments, you make up things to support your stance with no evidence. And when you get called out? Well, rinse and repeat.

If you read my posts you'd know that the vast majority of the time I'm making fun of myself.




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


What you fail to realize, is that you are the current butt


Dec 10, 2019, 8:33 PM [ in reply to You and your hall monitor pals make fun of ]

of Tnet jokes, simply due to the unrelenting, pretentious insults from your self perceived ivory tower.

Your arrogance and inability to see your own hubris, compounded by a overwhelming attitude of piety and entitlement is precisely the opposite of what makes the Clemson alum proud of their university.

If you are simply trolling, then I admit my error. If sincere, then maybe Clemson just isn't the right fit for you as a fan, and God help us if an alum.

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Re: What you fail to realize, is that you are the current butt


Dec 10, 2019, 9:12 PM



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Aspiring member of the TigerNet Sewer Dwellers


What you fail to realize


Dec 11, 2019, 9:55 PM [ in reply to What you fail to realize, is that you are the current butt ]

is that the self-proclaimed importance you and your pals (aliases?) place on what goes on here really doesn't matter one iota in the grand scheme of things.

I'm guessing that you will continue responding with sarcastic memes, insults, and accusations, because that's what you do. I'm assuming you will try to justify it in the name of being the ultimate Clemson fan/representative, who thus decides what is and is not worthy of being posted on TigerNet. If I didn't know better, I would think that you guys are official forum moderators here.

I am a proud Clemson alum and fan, as I'm guessing you are. I passionately love our university, and all of its athletic programs - including men's basketball. I don't apologize for defending our school and sports programs, and voicing my opinions on those topics. After all, that's what message boards are for.

My view of Clemson is that of a wonderful university and special place - one that has proud and unique traditions, with its best days ahead of it. The Clemson University of today isn't the one many people grew up with, nor is it the Clemson some people seem to long for. Just as we have moved on from our all male, all white military status, we have also moved on from the rural agricultural school we used to be. I think that heritage should be honored and valued, but to act like it's still here today is failing to see the reality of present-day Clemson.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me on all things. That's okay, as long as we can all have a respectful discussion about it and disagree like adults. I feel like you and your pals (aliases?) are either unwilling or incapable of doing that on many occasions.

I'm left with the impression that you are not interested in having a real discussion regarding most topics here. Your input (aside from a sarcastic gif or image) is conspicuously absent in most of the legitimate sports topics. If I'm wrong, and you are interested in having real discussion rather than just recruiting your friends to gang up on people, I will look forward to seeing real conversation from you moving forward.

Go Tigers!

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A couple things...


Dec 11, 2019, 10:22 PM

1) If by “real conversation” you mean you’ll stop making up “facts”, then absolutely, I’m all for it.
2) “... we have also moved on from the rural agricultural school we used to be.“ This statement is misleading. Yet another example of why it is so difficult to have a “real conversation” with you, you fabricate things up to suit your narrative. If you think agriculture is in Clemson’s past, but not its present or future, then you know less about the university you claim to love than I thought.

https://newsstand.clemson.edu/mediarelations/at-41-7-billion-agribusiness-remains-scs-no-1-industry/

https://www.clemson.edu/cafls/

https://www.clemson.edu/extension/




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


I've never seen a resepctful dscussion where the word


Dec 12, 2019, 10:20 AM [ in reply to What you fail to realize ]

"stupid" was used.

Do you regret how you worded your original OP? Or, do you only want a respectful discussion when it suits your enlightened sensibilities?

And for the record, I'm neutral on orange overalls. But IF I had a negative opinion, I wouldn't be "stupid" enough to insult my university's fanbase.

See how that works?

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


I like you just fine.


Dec 9, 2019, 10:55 AM [ in reply to You have no idea as to the situation he inherited. ]

I just don't like it when you, or anyone else, makes up facts to try and sway my opinion.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


I haven't made up any facts.


Dec 9, 2019, 10:59 AM

I don't need to make up facts when discussing the current state of our program. The fact that you don't always like the facts I post, or find them to not line up with your arguments, aren't my problem.

Truthfully, I don't really care what your opinion is. My posts here aren't intended to change your thinking.

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Not that I'm really curious - but what ARE


Dec 9, 2019, 11:08 AM

your posts intended to do ?

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


He’s just minding his business and supporting Clemson...


Dec 9, 2019, 11:45 AM

basketball.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Re: I haven't made up any facts.


Dec 9, 2019, 11:31 AM [ in reply to I haven't made up any facts. ]

Seriously Judge. That is not cool allowing Francis Marion to have his own opinions. I thought this was America?

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Re: I haven't made up any facts.


Dec 9, 2019, 11:31 AM [ in reply to I haven't made up any facts. ]

Seriously Judge. That is not cool allowing Francis Marion to have his own opinions. I thought this was America?

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Yes or No...


Dec 9, 2019, 11:39 AM [ in reply to I haven't made up any facts. ]

Regarding Colgate, you said: “ They are considered by some to be the best mid-major team in the country this year.”?

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Yes, I said that.


Dec 9, 2019, 9:13 PM

I’m not sure why you still have a problem, weeks later, with me posting the opinion of others about a school you probably thought invented toothpaste.

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A simple yes/no would have been sufficient...


Dec 10, 2019, 6:24 AM

Now, please provide a link to where anyone had them as the #1 mid-major team in the country, preseason, 2019.




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


And an added insult at the end of your response?


Dec 10, 2019, 7:03 AM [ in reply to Yes, I said that. ]



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Re: You have no idea as to the situation he inherited.


Dec 9, 2019, 11:15 AM [ in reply to You have no idea as to the situation he inherited. ]

You talking about Purnell and the swim coach?

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Re: You have no idea as to the situation he inherited.


Dec 9, 2019, 12:00 PM [ in reply to You have no idea as to the situation he inherited. ]

I - I - I care for you - Judge !! -<img border=">

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If people were as good as their obituary - and products were as good as advertised - this would truly be a wonderful world !!


what does that have to do with right now?***


Dec 9, 2019, 12:19 PM [ in reply to You have no idea as to the situation he inherited. ]



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He doesn't have time to research that.***


Dec 9, 2019, 12:34 PM



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Are we still moving to the Big XII, york?***


Dec 9, 2019, 9:24 PM [ in reply to what does that have to do with right now?*** ]



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cool, that's a new excuse.


Dec 10, 2019, 11:55 AM [ in reply to You have no idea as to the situation he inherited. ]

Lame. And bullcrap.

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I’d be ecstatic if I thought 11 yrs was a reality***


Dec 9, 2019, 10:56 AM



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Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 9, 2019, 11:59 AM

He said biggest thing I need is somebody on TNet to support me unconditionally .... that is my Number 1 need !! -<img border=">

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Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 9, 2019, 12:44 PM

The Basilica of Saint Peter in Rome was started in the 4th century. Work continues today.

HTH

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Screw Calford.


But it's in better shape than our basketball team!!***


Dec 9, 2019, 9:23 PM



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Re: But it's in better shape than our basketball team!!***


Dec 12, 2019, 4:47 AM

I think Brad said he needed Dabo and the football program to have overwhelming success to cover the major lameness of the basketball program except when playing overseas??

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It is BY FAR


Dec 10, 2019, 12:47 PM [ in reply to Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory ]

much prettier to watch.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Look, Clemson is rural and there are no ...


Dec 9, 2019, 11:35 PM

basketball players in SC and OP took off in the middle of the night. Cut him a break.

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Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 10, 2019, 6:39 AM

Here’s the press conference that BB supporters don’t want you to see. Clearly says he didn’t take over a dumpster fire.

https://clemsontigers.com/brad-brownell-hiring-press-conference-transcript/


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Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 10, 2019, 6:59 AM



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Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 10, 2019, 9:31 AM [ in reply to Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory ]


Here’s the press conference that BB supporters don’t want you to see. Clearly says he didn’t take over a dumpster fire.

https://clemsontigers.com/brad-brownell-hiring-press-conference-transcript/


Ding, ding, ding we have a winner...

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Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 11, 2019, 9:58 PM

Judge...what do you think about that transcript?

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All this thread is missing is someone bringing Francis Marion’s


Dec 10, 2019, 6:59 PM

mother into it. Then, we’ll have us a real hoedown!

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Does anyone know if she wears orange overalls?***


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Were you able to find that preseason poll?***


Dec 10, 2019, 10:22 PM



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Re: Back when Coach Brownlee was hired, during his introductory


Dec 11, 2019, 9:39 PM

You better be careful.....Judge Keller ain’t going to like this.....Go Tigers!!!!

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