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Legend [19352]
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Were are the members of the Jack Leggett fan club this week?
May 19, 2012, 6:03 PM
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Same #### different year.
It will probably be 1 championship in 17 years in a month.
Keep supporting mediocrity and inconsistency. We just beat the number 1 team in the country then turned around and got killed by Wake....
Defend away down vote away I dont really care.
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Rooter [220]
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Let's face it, our program has declined under Jack
May 19, 2012, 6:08 PM
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over the past several years. Losing Corbin and O'Sullivan hurt exposed him as a mediocre coach. Most Clemson fans with a brain will agree that in order to win championships, a change needs to be made.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Most Clemson fans drink too much orange Kool Aid and
May 19, 2012, 6:17 PM
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live in a land of delusion. Our coaching in football and baseball, not to mention other sports, is killing us, but the biggest enemy has been Barker and his US News top 20 crusade. Odd since there is nothing in the US News formula affected by athletics and most schools ranked higher than us have superior athletic programs. For far too long, athletics at Clemson have not been a high priority, but our apathetic fans are most responsible for sitting by and letting it happen an attacking anyone that dared complain. I was at Clemson 84-88, seeing how far we have fallen since the 80s breaks my heart. I hope Mickey is right and our new Chairman of the BOT is determined to win again.
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blah, blah, blah....generalizations and opinion offered as
May 19, 2012, 6:20 PM
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fact. Geezus you're boring and trite.
"Most Clemson fans" realize you're nothing more than a chickentroll in disguise bluecootie
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Rock Defender [53]
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Generalizations? OK, here are facts ....
May 19, 2012, 9:15 PM
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- Clemson has been under achieving in football for years
- Clemson has had and still has talent based on recruiting rankings and NFL draft results
- Talent but consistent under achieving = poor coaching
- Since Hatfield, our last 3 head coaches had a combined total of 3 years head coaching experience when hired. TB's coordinator experience was primarily under his brother and Dabo has zero coordinator experience. No BCS school serious about winning football would make 3 consecutive hires of that poor quality. Of the 3, West, TB, & Dabo, only TB was seen as a hot commodity among potential BCS schools looking to hire a new HC. And as we all know now, TB was only as good as he looked b/c of RichRod.
- Barker is obsessed with the US News top 20. The scandal created by his manipulation of the US News criteria is proof of that.
- Barker has not made athletics a high priority
- We use to win more ACC championships every year in the 80s than we now win over 3 to 5 years
- Fans are consumers. When they care and voice displeasure things happen (Ken Hatfield) when they are apathetic and give blind devotion and loyalty, losing becomes the norm (see the past 20+ years)
- You may find me boring, but the facts and history prove me correct. YOU and other delusional, kool aid drinking, apathetic fans are a huge part of the problem.
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Dead Horse Award.***
May 19, 2012, 9:18 PM
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The baseball program is the dead horse***
May 19, 2012, 10:44 PM
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Die-Hard [8977]
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Nobody wants a coot's opinion...
May 19, 2012, 10:48 PM
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Your school just lost 2 of 3 to LSU.
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All-TigerNet [11161]
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You're funny***
May 19, 2012, 10:52 PM
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Re: Nobody wants a coot's opinion...
May 19, 2012, 10:56 PM
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> Your school just lost 2 of 3 to LSU.
They lost in extra innings while playing for the SEC Championship. What was Clemson playing for?
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Re: Nobody wants a coot's opinion...
May 20, 2012, 12:21 AM
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and we just got swept by Weak Florist. Who gives a crap about USC.
USC has a coach who can actually in Championships.
We have won who doesnt teach fundamentals and is doing nothing with a program that should be elite.
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Your still wrong because
May 20, 2012, 10:37 AM
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Back then we had a 1 bad year with lots of great teams and players around it. Now we have 1 great player and 1 great season surrounded by lots of bad and mediocre ones.
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Re: Nobody was talking about a change last week.***
May 19, 2012, 9:30 PM
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last week we played OK,now we have been SWEPT by weak forest!! and only scored 3 runs in 27 ing!!hows that for facts??
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Wake Forest is going to be a NCAA tourament team
May 20, 2012, 12:07 AM
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We shouldn't have gotten swept, but you sound like you're comparing them to Duke football or something. It's not that embarrassing.
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Re: Were are the members of the Jack Leggett fan club this week?
May 19, 2012, 7:47 PM
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Jack is here to stay!!! I agree that the ASST s are the weak link though
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Rock Defender [53]
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That kind of silly loyalty is what ruins programs.***
May 19, 2012, 9:19 PM
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wake is a terrible team***
May 19, 2012, 8:52 PM
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Re: wake is a terrible team***
May 19, 2012, 9:09 PM
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and what does that say about us?
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Die-Hard [8977]
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Let me ask you a question...
May 19, 2012, 9:16 PM
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Would you rather win the ACC or go to Omaha?
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What is stitched into the back of our hats?***
May 19, 2012, 9:23 PM
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Die-Hard [8977]
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I understand that...
May 19, 2012, 9:26 PM
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clemtiger117 keeps complaining about only one ACC title in 16 years, ignoring all the trips to Omaha in the same period of time. Personally, I'd rather play for a national title than win the conference.
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Looks like we won't have to worry about making that decision
May 19, 2012, 10:49 PM
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I don't see an acc or natty coming out of clemson.
Even Fresno State has won the CWS. I am glad your goal is to just make it to Omaha. Mine is to win it.
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Die-Hard [8977]
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You're a coot, nobody cares.***
May 19, 2012, 10:56 PM
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Hall of Famer [22965]
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nah.....he's no coot
May 19, 2012, 10:58 PM
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you can disagree with his post, but RMH is no fan of the chickens
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Die-Hard [8977]
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I don't care whether he's a fan or not...
May 19, 2012, 10:59 PM
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He went to SC. Not only could I GET IN Clemson, I GRADUATED from Clemson. He can't say that.
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Re: I don't care whether he's a fan or not...
May 19, 2012, 11:03 PM
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congratulations on the diploma......you may not have noticed, but not everyone of the 80,000 fans at the games are Clemson grads.......sorry to upset you by letting you know you're off the mark about him being a coot
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Re: I don't care whether he's a fan or not...
May 20, 2012, 11:21 AM
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trouble is, 117 is worse than a coot. he just complains incessantly about a coach that will be in the college baseball hall of fame as soon as he is eligible. is anyone happy with this years team, he!! no, players and coaches included. recruiting will take care of the problem. i am pretty sure jack will step down when he feels the time is right, much like coach wilhelm did.
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Re: I don't care whether he's a fan or not...
May 20, 2012, 12:24 PM
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Poor deroberts such a joke. Your obsession with me is only eclipsed by your obsession with Jack.
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Re: I don't care whether he's a fan or not...
May 20, 2012, 12:24 AM
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I can say that I am a Clemson graduate but it has nothing to do with the state of our Baseball program and how much it underachieves under Jack.
We have been a good to great program. We should be great to elite.
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Re: Let me ask you a question...
May 19, 2012, 10:31 PM
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I would rather do both. I didnt know they were exclusive.
I would rather have a coach that wins championships.
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Die-Hard [8977]
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Well, both wasn't a choice...
May 19, 2012, 10:37 PM
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So which is it?
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Re: Well, both wasn't a choice...
May 19, 2012, 11:10 PM
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I live in reality... both is a choice.
Getting to Omaha while a nice accomplishment means little when you dont win it.... Clemson will not win it with our fundamentals being taught under Jack.
No one remembers who finished second.
I want Championship trophies not participation ribbons.
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Getting to Omaha is a HUGE accomplishment...
May 19, 2012, 11:18 PM
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regardless of whether you win it or not. Being one of the last 8 teams standing is VERY significant. And when you go as frequently as Clemson does (every freshman class that has entered since the fall of 1987 has made at least one trip in its 4 year career), there's no reason to complain. Unless you just want to be a whiny *****. I guess you were happy when Clemson won the ACC but didn't make it to Omaha but once in 13 years. Clemson didn't even make the tournament for 5 straight years in the 80s. Just shut up.
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Re: Getting to Omaha is a HUGE accomplishment...
May 19, 2012, 11:31 PM
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Ah there is the name calling have a nice day.
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Re: Where did he name call?***
May 20, 2012, 12:19 AM
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whiny ##### isnt name calling?
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Re: We ain't goin to Omaha. Heck, we ain't gonna make it to
May 19, 2012, 11:55 PM
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how about at least Brasstown???
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Re: We ain't goin to Omaha. Heck, we ain't gonna make it to
May 20, 2012, 10:48 AM
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anyone going to the ACC championship?
WE must unite and support our team.
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Re: Getting to Omaha is a HUGE accomplishment...
May 20, 2012, 12:28 AM
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You keep acting like they arent both possible. The fact is Jack isnt an elite coach. Elite coaches in Championships.
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No, I don't...
May 20, 2012, 12:45 AM
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You're the one that's only interested in winning conference championships. You're all about championships, yet winning a regional or super regional championship apparently doesn't count. Who cares if Clemson wins the ACC if they don't make it to Omaha? Can you address the fact that Clemson didn't even MAKE IT to Omaha but once in a thirteen year period during the 80s? Is it OK with you to fail to make it that many times as long as you win the ACC? There's nothing wrong with getting to Omaha. You're the one that's putting down making it to the College World Series if you don't win it. That's ludicrous. I'd love to win the ACC and the national championship, but playing for a national title sure beats staying home. Coach Leggett IS an elite coach. Someone who's the 6th winningest active coach in D1 baseball is an elite coach regardless of how many championships he wins. Mike Martin is an elite coach and he's never won a national title.
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Since when did the 80's last 13 years? Maybe you should give
May 20, 2012, 10:46 AM
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back that diploma because you make us look bad practiceguy.
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Re: No, I don't...
May 20, 2012, 12:46 PM
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Regionals and Super Regionals are not Championships. Also saying I am only interested in winning the ACC is a blatant lie.
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